Just had a listen, it does pick up a bit but I'm still hearing completely acoustic guitars. TAT is totally a power ballad to me, yeah.

Aloha !

Shouldn't a power ballad have some, you know, power in it? Thick as Thieves sounds like some song you'd hear over end credits after a rom com. It's got no actual power in it.

I reckon the reason why it's hard to draw the line nowadays is because since Thank You For Loving Me Bon Jovi just don't seem to be able to write a proper ballad anymore. They've had one on every release since Slippery, but Thank You For Loving Me followed by All About Lovin' You showed a serious decline in the quality of their power ballads, and eventually the songs were just slow love songs.

Make a stranger listen to I'll Be There For You followed by Thick as Thieves and ask which one's the power ballad and I can guarantee you they won't pick Thick as Thieves.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

This come to my mind ...

But that's not how it's determined, putting two songs and only one of them can be a power ballad. The delivery is far flatter in Thick as Thieves but it still has the guitars, the soaring solo and vocals, it completely qualifies though there are much better power ballads. The drums in TaT were much louder compared to the Bounce songs, or at least it's a pretty different snare sound.

Aloha !

Oh, I know. In theory Thick as Thieves is a power ballad. Yet it's the same like saying Bon Jovi are a rock band. They've got all the right ingrediënts. Loud vocals, loud guitars, thundering drums... Yet everyone thinks they no longer are because that thing that used to define it is just no longer there.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

First of all, a Power Ballad is not even a real genre/category in music. It's a term keyed from 80's rock bands. By 'Urban Dictionary' it's an acoustic rock song with heavy guitar so technically as long as the basic formula fits, there really is no right or wrong judgement.

When I think of a Power Ballad, I think of every 80's song that fits the above. IMO, TYFLM doesn't scream 80's however Thank You does.... But just my opinion... There is no right or wrong...

Some other guesses and opinions:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...8133838AAKfhXk

Apparently the album is called ' This House Is Not For Sale'. Rumoured at least anyway and theyre going back to basics, hard rock and have a chip on their shoulder attitude with the songs

Bon Jovi goes back to basics for new album

http://uk.whaatsnew.com/2015/09/music/17555

Bon Jovi is going back to its hard rocking ways.
This House Is Not For Sale, the band’s highly-anticipated album slated for release in March next year, is “really going back to the beginning”, ringleader Jon Bon Jovi reveals in a press conference in Kuala Lumpur last week.
“This record is about our integrity. Integrity matters and we’re at a stage of our career where we don’t have anything left to prove.
“Some songs have a little more of the ‘chip on my shoulder’ sound which is OK for us to have right now.”
The band, Jon explains, had grown accustomed to recording their parts separately. That changed with the upcoming album.
“We were recording at different times and different rooms in the studio. That’s not happening anymore. We went back to the place where we cut Runaway in 1982 – where I used to sweep the floor and fetch coffee. And, we did This House Is Not For Sale.
“But old habits (die hard). I kept cleaning up the place and bringing them (keyboardist David Bryan and drummer Tico Torres) coffee,” the 53-year-old singer says, laughing.
Clearly excited about the new album, the band feels it’s a reflection of Bon Jovi’s evolution.
“The beauty of songwriting is taking some experience in your life and translating it into a feeling. We aren’t jaded. Musical styles come and go. I can’t pretend to do something just because it’s popular. We’re comfortable and confident in who we are – we’ve been around long enough.” says Jon, who admits to shying away from writing cute, tongue-in-cheek songs like You Give Love A Bad Name, because there are “a lot more important things to say”.
While the members of the group like touring, Jon says writing music is the best part of the business.
“There are different phases of music – the writing, the recording because you want to see the song you wrote on the notebook come to life, and playing live. I’d rather write than spend 12 hours in a hotel room (on tour) with nothing do, but I like the interaction and energy on stage,” he says.
Torres appreciates the instant gratification of an audience singing and clapping along. He says every night is different and it’s a feeling you can’t replicate in a studio.
The seasoned performers say their ability to continuously evolve is what keeps them on top of their game.
“When I wrote Runaway in 1982, my viewpoint wasn’t that big, but with every record and passing decade of our career, we evolve,” Jon says. “We keep our eyes open, let information in and write about the world around us. We really couldn’t write You Give Love A Bad Name now. It was great when I was 25 but not at 53.”
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Last month, the band’s frontman released a video on YouTube of himself singing Teresa Teng’s famous Mandarin ballad – The Moon Represents My Heart. Described as a gift to his Chinese fans, the cover was a prelude to the Asian leg of the band’s world tour, Bon Jovi Live!, which included stops in Indonesia, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan and Malaysia.
Admitting to being worried and really intimidated “because it’s a language I obviously don’t speak”, Jon credits his sister-in-law – the lady coaching him in the video – for suggesting he cover the classic.
“She said, ‘you got to sing this song’ and I said, sure if you’ll come to New York and teach me.
“She came. It was one line at a time but I gave it my best,” he recalls.
Named the world’s top touring act for the last five years, the band, he feels, has created a strong following because of its reputation.
“We’re a great live show. Wherever we went even 20 years ago here in Kuala Lumpur, the reputation follows,” Jon says matter-of-factly.
On projects outside the band, Bryan, whose musical Memphis is running on Broadway, shares that a new project, Chasing The Song, is in production.
When asked what he remembers about Asia the last time the band toured here, Jon replies: “20 years ago when we came to Asia, it was a different world. I remember seeing an ox cart carrying a refrigerator along the highway, colourful motorcycles that look like little cabs and Japanese girls in kimonos and wooden shoes.
“It’s become more international now. Just one big world.”

If the title came from Jon, then it's official... The mods should change the title of this thread... Any guesses on what it means?????

"I always lived my life my own way, my integrity could never be bought. This is the house this life built."

Assuming it's the actual title and takes on the most cringe-worthy meaning.

I think the title is saying that they dont care about contracts anymore they wont be bought at any price and wont be following demands. Inspired by their old label no doubt

Interesting theyre saying it comes out March now after saying April/May

Maybe Jon wants the album out asap and being that they are tied to a label yet, they have more freewill.

You can hear Phil Anselmo do this to a mic at the end of this song:
https://youtu.be/E929gqIcwwI

Where have I read/listened this before? :P

"If I got one thing, I got something to prove", you said it so Jon. Just prove to us that you can still make an amazing album.

Jokes aside, I have high hopes on this one. Specially after Burning Bridges.

Album in March means first single December/January-ish. Nice.

That was my next post... When will the first single be released???

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But HOW will it be released? Are they working a label deal, or will they attempt something independent?

HEAVY METAL MOTHER****ERS

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Maybe thats why Jons voice has been the worst its been. We can hope anyway

Hahaha that picture is great.

You guys keep forgetting that they may very well be in cahoots with a label and we just don't know which one yet. With them giving album titles and approximate time frame s for release, they are not floundering in the wind without a plan.

"Back to roots?" Well, we'll see.

To me, the most promising part of that article is the fact they're recording as a band again. That's always going to produce more organic songs than the way they go about it now, and really that's all I want from Bon Jovi in 2015 onward. Give me an album of I'm Your Mans (not We Don't Runs) and I'll be thrilled.

I listened to the press conf' again (the transcription found in the article is more or less accurate...): too bad the interviewer uploaded only the first part of it. And why did she write, "well the interesting bits were at the beginning." when Jon doesn't speak about the 2016 album at all? :neutral:

https://youtu.be/UA-yuqEiGP4

If I get an album of I'm Your Man the only place I'm putting that album it is in the trash.

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Same here. Worst song on BB by far

Legit surprised it's not called "This House Ain't for Sale".

Same here.

Yep! That too. Very strange...

On a side note, the recording studio IS for sale:
Avatar Studios up for sale
http://www.audiomediainternational.c...for-sale/04856

http://www.streetinsider.com/SI+News.../10928878.html

I just want 11 thumping rock tunes and 1 token ballad

This House Is Not For Sale???

http://galeri12.uludagsozluk.com/553...mak_847995.gif

Is this setting warning lights off for anyone else?

It sounds like the sort of crappy mid tempo rocker that Jon likes to write for the suffering working class, in the vein of work for the working man, what about now and whats left of me.

If he's determined to include a song like that for a third album in a row (not including burning bridges) then he better have something good to back it up with, like we don't run.

Yes, the album name is really lame. The "Free Beer" that he wanted to use back in the '90s was way better than this one. I don't think that it's going to make a lot of casuals want to buy it.

Still, they say not go judge a book by it's cover and that's what I'm going to do.

I'll also try to avoid anything about this album (don't know if I'm going to be able to do it) as having 4 songs before the record was released kinda ruined my experience for Burning Bridges.

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Yeah I'm not going to judge this yet. Lots of titles went one way and surprised me with another. I think they have a great album in them.

At this rate, it'll be out before Richie's solo album. What the hell is going on with that one?

He's too busy being ̶a̶ ̶f̶a̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶A̶v̶a̶,̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶s̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ having his second adolescence and fooling around with his 20 years younger girlfriend.

Ava is off to college anyway. I wonder how he'll rationalize that stuff now.

Aloha !

Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if Richie would release it at the same time the band is releasing this. Anytime there'd be some reporting done on this album they'd "have" to mention how the guitarist who left has his own record out right now.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

lol too true! At least he sang stick to your guns when he toured! :rolleyes:

Scuttlebutt: Yes Gossip, she only stayed at NYU for a week and her pics are definitely in LA. So yes - maybe more of an "excuse" now than before as I have NO clue why. Someone ask O about their album again and all she says is "soon" every time. No label so don't know IF that has anything to do with it or not, all his dime? I still say Feb. 30th...

Back on topic: I kind of like the title. It does seem like the "older" work for the working man theme - now if the music will come along with it. Someone else said and I agree, give me 10 or so rock and a ballad or two - I'm not hard to please. I'm sure I'll pre-order no matter what so that's at least one in the sale column.

I read in some article that the album is already recorded - they talked about going back into the studio as a band and Jon getting coffee for David and Tico as opposed to each doing their part individually and then mixing it together the way the last few were done. Then, I've read that Phil X will be on this recording, so he would have had to work on it when he was in Jersey earlier this year or do his part and have it mixed. Maybe partially done? Any theories?