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KSantaFe 10-17-2015 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1196729)
It sounds like they may be recording as a band again.

And that's in line with the quotes attributed to Jon from the Malaysian Press Conference. Shame we've never got footage confirming This House Is Not For Sale.

rolo_tomachi 10-17-2015 09:52 PM

The new single will be launched in January.
New Album and new Tour on March.
Jon will change his hair color.

That's my guess. ;)

Rdkopper 10-17-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1196752)
The new single will be launched in January.
New Album and new Tour on March.
Jon will change his hair color.

That's my guess. ;)

My guess is...

The hair remains the same (no going back now)

The album release date gets delayed until May or June

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rolo_tomachi 10-17-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1196753)
My guess is...

The hair remains the same (no going back now)

Sure.

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golittleperson 10-18-2015 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1196729)
Tico not being done is actually a GOOD thing. He was in the studio with them previously and has to add more parts means he's not being brought in for a few days towards the end of he recording to do all his parts. It sounds like they may be recording as a band again.

One of the interviews/articles during the mini-tour like all said going back to roots But it also added that they were recording as a band. Unlike the last few where everyone recorded parts. John said he was fetching David & Tico coffee.

No mention of PhilX - I wonder if not everything is finished and he'll go in and do parts or meet them to finish up. Shanks could record again. Think we all know who it won't be.

Also sounds like from the articles, even though most are poor press, that Bobby may be gone and Matt in for him. I had wondered if it was this or just the last run.

I noticed Hugh seemed even more in the background this last trip, I wonder if he is going to be staying for the next round. Pictures at hotels with fans often had Matt and PhilX (not official meet & greets) but saw nothing with Hugh and nothing on social media from him or his wife. What are people on the board thinking or am I just over reacting?

Old Joysey 10-18-2015 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by golittleperson (Post 1196760)
I noticed Hugh seemed even more in the background this last trip, I wonder if he is going to be staying for the next round. Pictures at hotels with fans often had Matt and PhilX (not official meet & greets) but saw nothing with Hugh and nothing on social media from him or his wife. What are people on the board thinking or am I just over reacting?

I saw quite a few fan pictures with Hugh, I even posted some on this board.
Hugh has a Tweeter account but never posts. His wife mostly posts about her son's budding career or Jake uses his mother's account for the same purpose. The last time she tweeted about BJ it turned into chaos until she decided to forbid public access to her tweets for a while, so I guess that she won't mention BJ ever again to avoid a repeat of this situation.

TheOriginalJez 10-18-2015 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by golittleperson (Post 1196760)
One of the interviews/articles during the mini-tour like all said going back to roots But it also added that they were recording as a band. Unlike the last few where everyone recorded parts. John said he was fetching David & Tico coffee.

No mention of PhilX - I wonder if not everything is finished and he'll go in and do parts or meet them to finish up. Shanks could record again. Think we all know who it won't be.

I've read reports of the interview you're referring to but not heard it:

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“But old habits (die hard). I kept cleaning up the place and bringing them (keyboardist David Bryan and drummer Tico Torres) coffee,” the 53-year-old singer says, laughing.
He didn't say 'die hard' and he didn't say 'keyboardist David Bryan...', that seems to be the interpretation of the reporter rather than anything else and to believe they're recording 'as a band' without Hugh or some other bassist is silly so I'd be inclined to not read anything into that whatsoever except for from what Jon has said about not really caring about BB and it being a quick recording of old songs I'd guess it was SSII rather than Avatar with everyone just laying down their parts as and when, which would make sense for Shanks to just fill in the missing parts as he did. Still doesn't tell us whether Phil, Shanks or some other guitarist was playing lead for THINFS though.

One positive from some more recording, HAND and LH had similar issues iirc about new songs needing to be recorded after the record was declared done and Shanks was not available, I forget who filled in tracks on HAND but Dan Huff filled in tracks on LH and did a good job, at least it might give us some more interesting, less in your face pop production if that's the case.

bwehehehe 10-18-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1196754)

But then...

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rolo_tomachi 10-18-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bwehehehe (Post 1196779)

Hugh too.

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But Jon follow the footsteps of Bono, not of their bassist.

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Becky 10-18-2015 04:37 PM

Jon wasn't born to follow, lest you forget.

Alphavictim 10-18-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1196783)
Jon wasn't born to follow, lest you forget.

Right, he was born to be your man.

rolo_tomachi 10-18-2015 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1196783)
Jon wasn't born to follow, lest you forget.

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"My peer group aspired to be on the cover of Circus magazine. I aspired to be on the cover of Time." - JBJ october 12, 2011.

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Becky 10-18-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1196787)
Right, he was born to be your man.

He's got a woman. I've got a man. Though I'd be glad to trade bank accounts with him. :lol: Or just lighten tax burden... you know, I'm helpful like that.

Alphavictim 10-18-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1196791)
He's got a woman. I've got a man.

Eventually your relationships will die like all your other relationships.

Old Joysey 10-18-2015 08:02 PM

Ahem! Isn't there a new rule about derailing threads, "egodriveling" and being banned for doing so? Just sayin'... Have a nice day! :mrgreen:

Lampinen 10-18-2015 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1196798)
Eventually your relationships will die like all your other relationships.

What the hell is the matter with you? :D

rolo_tomachi 10-18-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1196798)
Eventually your relationships will die like all your other relationships.

Mr. Alphavictim ....

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Supersonic 10-18-2015 10:28 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1196791)
He's got a woman. I've got a man.

You've got a man? You're no longer just by yourself and all your cats? That's a lot of pussy for one guy to handle.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Becky 10-18-2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lampinen (Post 1196810)
What the hell is the matter with you? :D

It's a joke. And it's probably true anyway! LOL I'm not offended in the slightest.

Jon has always aspired to be more than just a lame rock star. Songwriting is his passion, but it's also his foot in the door to making a difference in other people's lives. That's one reason his songs are usually uplifting. Like he said back in 1992, "There's more to say than, 'The world sucks.'"

Alphavictim 10-18-2015 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1196822)
And it's probably true anyway!

Well, everybody who didn't die a virgin bride has had failed relationships, so I think the whole line of reasoning, "your previous relationships failed, why should this be any different?!?" rather cynic the first time around. I wouldn't wish that on anybody, to be unable to ever maintain a relationship.

You see, I was acting like a dick in the name of optimism.

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Jon has always aspired to be more than just a lame rock star. Songwriting is his passion, but it's also his foot in the door to making a difference in other people's lives. That's one reason his songs are usually uplifting. Like he said back in 1992, "There's more to say than, 'The world sucks.'"
Him saying that in 1992 was probably more of a reaction to the grunge scene than a political statement.

rolo_tomachi 10-19-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1196824)


Him saying that in 1992 was probably more of a reaction to the grunge scene than a political statement.

Yeah. But Keep the Faith is a lot of others bands of the moment. U2 - Achtung Baby, Bryan Adams - Waking Up The Neighbours, Nirvana - Nevermind, Metallica - Black Album, Guns n Roses - Use Your Illusions ...

I wonder, what sound of others bands of the moment take Jon for the New Album 2016?

Alphavictim 10-19-2015 12:39 AM

First, he'd need to get a sidecut.

Old Joysey 10-19-2015 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1196828)
I wonder, what sound of others bands of the moment take Jon for the New Album 2016?

Will you make another list with your speculations? Can I play too? :) Problem is Idk what pop-rock bands are famous in the USA this year, I gotta check the Top 10 lists and music magazines first.

Let's say U2's next album because U2's always been under Jon's radar (yet I don't think Jon will dye his hair blond again. Silver is the new sexy & trendy color according to magazines) and??? Maroon 5? Nickelback? 1D? :lol:


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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1196830)
First, he'd need to get a sidecut.

Do you mean like Cyndi Lauper's waffle sidecut in "Time After Time"? :lol:

Rdkopper 10-19-2015 12:46 AM

One of, if not the, best part of Burning Bridges is that it sounded fresh musically. Before Jon even spoke a note, the music had a fresh sound to it, something that past albums have lost. The songs were either too digital or too dated. The guitar intros from All About Loving You to What Do You Got are so lame and old sounding. Then you got the digital sounding rockers... All songs had that same stale feel to them.

I think going back to the old studio played a major role here and being that This House Is Not For Sale was recorded basically at or around the same time, gives me high hopes.

IMO, most of the BB tracks are the intended B-Sides to This House Is Not For Sale. Instead of getting them after the release, we got them before in a full album format.

rolo_tomachi 10-19-2015 12:58 AM

Crush ---- was a sound inspired in british pop-rock and teen pop since bands as Oasis until Britney Spears.

Bounce --- Maybe a cross between Linkin Park and Lenny Karvitz music of 2001.

HAND ---- Imitation pseudo-punk, pop/rock of U2 - how to dismantle an atomic bomb, Green Day - American Idiot, Ashlee Simpsom, and "I Am" could be one single of Arvil Lavigne.

Lost Highway ----- all pop country of another years 2004-2006, Keith Urban, LeAnn Rimes, Faith Hill, Rascal Flatts.

The Circle ----- British rock bands as King of Leon, The Killers, Coldplay, Mumford & Sons and one classic, U2 ....

WAN ------ Nickelback, Match Both 20th, Fun, and others...

Burning Bridges --- Nickelback again, Fall Out Boy, something of Coldplay and Swedish House Mafia.


2016? one mistery. Maybe a sound between Fall Out Boy, Nickelback, Taylor Swift, Kongos, Sam Smith and of course something of U2.

bounce442 10-19-2015 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1196833)
Bounce --- Maybe a cross between Linkin Park and Lenny Karvitz music of 2001.

Bounce had too many different influences but I think their most notable influence was Creed... mainly the Distance and Love Me Back to Life.

WILDJOVIMAN 10-19-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1196833)
Crush ---- was a sound inspired in british pop-rock and teen pop since bands as Oasis until Britney Spears.

Bounce --- Maybe a cross between Linkin Park and Lenny Karvitz music of 2001.

HAND ---- Imitation pseudo-punk, pop/rock of U2 - how to dismantle an atomic bomb, Green Day - American Idiot, Ashlee Simpsom, and "I Am" could be one single of Arvil Lavigne.

Lost Highway ----- all pop country of another years 2004-2006, Keith Urban, LeAnn Rimes, Faith Hill, Rascal Flatts.

The Circle ----- British rock bands as King of Leon, The Killers, Coldplay, Mumford & Sons and one classic, U2 ....

WAN ------ Nickelback, Match Both 20th, Fun, and others...

Burning Bridges --- Nickelback again, Fall Out Boy, something of Coldplay and Swedish House Mafia.


2016? one mistery. Maybe a sound between Fall Out Boy, Nickelback, Taylor Swift, Kongos, Sam Smith and of course something of U2.

Nope... These are BJ Records. They´ve never lost there own Sound.

Captain_jovi 10-19-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WILDJOVIMAN (Post 1196846)
Nope... These are BJ Records. They´ve never lost there own Sound.

They had their sound but it was inspired by distinct era's of music based on whatever was really big a year before the album came out. You can't not hear the chunky down-tuned guitars double tracked with baritone guitars on Bounce and not think about all the bands that sounded like that.

And Rolo, what are you talking about Burning Bridges (The album) sounding like Nickelback? The melody being similar one song doesn't make the song/band sound like Nickelback, it makes that specific song have a similar chorus melody.

schlochty 10-19-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1196049)
Aloha !



Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if Richie would release it at the same time the band is releasing this. Anytime there'd be some reporting done on this album they'd "have" to mention how the guitarist who left has his own record out right now.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan


Yes, that is what people who have a clue of how marketing works would do. Sadly, Richie does not.

And this is assuming Richie can manage to find a label that is willing to commit money and resources to an artist whose 3 solo albums have sold the square root of jackshit and who is clearly back on drugs an booze.

Gabriel Shoes 10-19-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1196833)
Crush ---- was a sound inspired in british pop-rock and teen pop since bands as Oasis until Britney Spears.

Bounce --- Maybe a cross between Linkin Park and Lenny Karvitz music of 2001.

HAND ---- Imitation pseudo-punk, pop/rock of U2 - how to dismantle an atomic bomb, Green Day - American Idiot, Ashlee Simpsom, and "I Am" could be one single of Arvil Lavigne.

Lost Highway ----- all pop country of another years 2004-2006, Keith Urban, LeAnn Rimes, Faith Hill, Rascal Flatts.

The Circle ----- British rock bands as King of Leon, The Killers, Coldplay, Mumford & Sons and one classic, U2 ....

WAN ------ Nickelback, Match Both 20th, Fun, and others...

Burning Bridges --- Nickelback again, Fall Out Boy, something of Coldplay and Swedish House Mafia.


2016? one mistery. Maybe a sound between Fall Out Boy, Nickelback, Taylor Swift, Kongos, Sam Smith and of course something of U2.

Very precise. I would just add "Simple Plan" to HAND, Story Of My Life and Complicated sounds awlfully like them.

Sossy 10-19-2015 09:21 PM

I read the last posts here.. What can you people write for a crap?! Man, facepalm after facepalm :rolleyes:
I shouldn´t read so much online anymore. It all makes me sick. So many dumb comments:rolleyes::rolleyes:

bonjovi90 10-19-2015 09:48 PM

Many users may just have a more realistic and objective approach to the topics than you do. The times where everything was golden and glory are gone for most us.
It's nice that it's still that way for you, but other opinions can be just as valid :p

Walleris 10-19-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sossy (Post 1196859)
I read the last posts here.. What can you people write for a crap?! Man, facepalm after facepalm :rolleyes:
I shouldn´t read so much online anymore. It all makes me sick. So many dumb comments:rolleyes::rolleyes:

You probably shouldn't. And I am not trying to offend you.

The quality of the band's output (in studio and in concerts) is to some extent subjective, but are fairly easy to assess, especially when it comes to Jon's vocals.

It's okay to have different opinions and express them, but if reading different opinions depresses you, I suggest investing your time in something else.

steel_horse75 10-20-2015 07:03 PM

An album sounding like NJ would do me! Who am I kidding!

Tiggerbeast 10-25-2015 03:21 AM

Even thought Jon and Richie are apparently on good terms, I think Richie will eventually return to Bon Jovi but I think he wants to record his album with Ori and tour. That will serve that creative itch. If Richie does released the album next year, I recon he'll return in 2018.

Rdkopper 10-25-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiggerbeast (Post 1197079)
Even thought Jon and Richie are apparently on good terms, I think Richie will eventually return to Bon Jovi but I think he wants to record his album with Ori and tour. That will serve that creative itch. If Richie does released the album next year, I recon he'll return in 2018.

What makes you think that they are on good terms??? well let's start with this, define good terms...

At this point, I think it's more of a Jon decision. If Jon could still put up the same numbers without Richie, why bring him back??? Forget the fact that he bailed mid tour and bashed the band in certain interviews by making fun of Runaway etc... The dude is a loose cannon... I think Jon will always cherish his days with Richie and I'm sure they will share a stage together again one day but I think Jon sees Richie as a liability...

Bon Jovi will never be what they were back in the day, with or without Richie...
As these guys age, things continue to shift... from priorities, to how records are made, to the overall industry ... these aren't 28 year old kids looking to take over the world anymore... these are artists looking to continue a legacy and let out their talents... Just doing what they were born to do... Jon loves to write and make records. He hates touring but that's his main source of income so he has to do it... He hates interviews and videos but it promotes the album which promotes the tour so he has to do it...

I don't mean to burst your bubble but I don't see Richie coming back anytime soon... I don't think Jon misses him....more money for Jon too bty




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Matrix15 10-27-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1196902)
An album sounding like NJ would do me! Who am I kidding!

Yeah, I know Jon harps on about the working man and his social consciousness but why not try singing about cowboys and parties again?

Sure he doesn't want to be 'nostalgia act' and he says he can't rewrite slippery or NJ but why not have a go given the quality of the bands recent output (bar a few songs on Burning bridges). Jon might even actually enjoy it!

There are plenty of examples of bands abandoning a type of music they were famous for, returning years later and producing a good album. Kiss's Sonic boom, Def leps Euphoria.

yomamasofat 10-28-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bounce442 (Post 1196838)
Bounce had too many different influences but I think their most notable influence was Creed... mainly the Distance and Love Me Back to Life.

This is why I dislike those songs. Creed sucks.

yomamasofat 10-28-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrix15 (Post 1197119)
Yeah, I know Jon harps on about the working man and his social consciousness but why not try singing about cowboys and parties again?

Sure he doesn't want to be 'nostalgia act' and he says he can't rewrite slippery or NJ but why not have a go given the quality of the bands recent output (bar a few songs on Burning bridges). Jon might even actually enjoy it!

There are plenty of examples of bands abandoning a type of music they were famous for, returning years later and producing a good album. Kiss's Sonic boom, Def leps Euphoria.

Those two albums are stellar. I wish more bands would go back to their roots and release albums in the style of their most popular outputs. No need to be ashamed of those records that made you big. What bands need to be ashamed of is the inability to make records reminiscent to their big records. Success for classic rock bands is not guaranteed, we all know that. But why don't they do why they did best. Evolving and growing with times are ****ing overrated in music.

Walleris 10-28-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by yomamasofat (Post 1197129)
Those two albums are stellar. I wish more bands would go back to their roots and release albums in the style of their most popular outputs. No need to be ashamed of those records that made you big. What bands need to be ashamed of is the inability to make records reminiscent to their big records. Success for classic rock bands is not guaranteed, we all know that. But why don't they do why they did best. Evolving and growing with times are ****ing overrated in music.

Couldn't disagree more. AC/DC are the exception, not the rule. Other bands that follow this path see their venues shrink year after year. Ones that don't are ones that evolved over times.


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