Anyone else thing the titles not brilliant? "God bless this mess" sounds like it belongs on a sign in some crazy old hoarding spinsters house. Still if its a good song, I don't mind the title. Time will obviously tell.

I suspect Lorenza could provide a wealth of useful info, given that she's heard the album and probably is the best person close to the band who utilities social media.

I know John Shanks tweets and Matt Bongiovi does stuff but god they can be a pair of buffoons.

Not brilliant nor surprising.

Just another excuse to clothe it into political (yet 'universally appealing' context).

This song comes to mind which is boring:

But I feel very sorry for Ryan Adams now, because of this:

I don't want more country songs. God, have mercy.

Or she added strings to a song, which doesn't necessarily make it a country song (ie Blind Love).

I agree I don't know what style they are going for this time around but with the backlash Lost Highway got, I can't see them pulling that again.

He probably gave her the album to listen too so she can rehearse it for these shows. Somehow they'll be an acoustic format of them live for these shows when she will probably be needed.

Either that or she's lying. Could be either.

I don't think she will be lying about this. U know the old saying, if u can't something nice don't say it at all. Its crazy how there are people that are going to her twitter to get the 411 on the new album, I don't even think she was even part of this album, I think. I guess we are all anxious and curious of this new album and new songs.

No, I agree, she'd have nothing to gain by saying she'd heard the album. It's entirely possible Jon gave her a copy for whatever reason just as it's possible she worked on it.

I'm hoping the song is an angry rock song. The title is great.


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Her lying and the saying you mentioned aren't compatible. You could still lie and be nice... Anyway...

It's probably 1 of 4 things:

1. Because it's the new single, both bands need to know how to perform it just like BWC so even if she isn't playing on it, she's still part of the KOS.

2. Again, as the new single, Jon wants an acoustic rendition which is not uncommon.

3. She actually played on it. It could be subtle but she could have a small part.

4. They are friends are he just played it for her. She is the Pizza Pie Jury.. She could have been in the studio at the same time working on Burning Bridges or whatever.

Calm down.

I wasn't saying it in a bad way. I was saying that it could be a way to get people excited for the album. She may think the album is a pile of shite but she would never say that would she?

I have my doubts that it's an angry song. Sounds to me like he's found some sort of silver lining in whatever mess he's referring to.

JBJ...forever the optimist.

Found this pix of Jon and Phil X, this is from 1993, check it out!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...8549479&type=3

Here is another pix, this is more recent, like today, it Jon with John Shanks and another guy in the middle, and he has a bottle of champaigne I think, check it out, https://www.facebook.com/bonjovialwa...111858/?type=3

It says right in the caption the photo was taken 3.5.16

I'm pretty sure that's David Massey, the president of Island Records.

I guess this is solid proof Jon is indeed back with his old label.

I think it meant to say 5/3/16.

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Oh boy, good catch. Yeah that just about cements that.

Hopefully they signed a nice long deal that includes some vault material...

Been thinking about 'God Bless This Mess' and I can see it being a great mid tempo song like an 'I Am' or full on rocker. I can also imagine the lyrics in the chorus including 'I don't want to see another day' or 'I dont want to fight another day' that would fit I reckon

'Reunion' will be on the album? :-?

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Same producer, same label, diferent music?
Nahhh. Everything remains the same.
John Shanks and Jon Bon Jovi.
They are Bon Jovi.

Agreed.

Shame on us who expected Jon to come out of usual mediocrity of the last 10+ years.

Shame on anyone judging material they haven't heard yet.

Yeah, that'd be sweet. I wonder what's left in the vault we haven't heard though.

Why are you allowed to be so anxious about the new Richie album but no one is able to consider the next Bon Jovi record to be anything but crap?

I have not mentioned the word "crap". Just pisses me this way of team.

I do not think the new album of Richie and Orianthi going to be good, but at least it must be different.

Aside from the continuation of the Shanks connection, it doesn't help that the record label has decided to sit on the first single for two more months and the album for five months while there won't be a tour until early next year. If the label or tour promoter thought they had a hot seller on their hands, they'd have paid Jon to cancel his Runaway Tours gigs and had the band up to their earlobes in summer tour plans by now.

P.S. Is there a date for that pic of Jon holding the Island shirt?

I was always bored with bands like AC / DC because always is doing the same. Jon before, made very good, change style, with different music, both lyrically as instrumental, even production. Now, always sounds the same, and that pisses me off a bit. We always talk about leaving your aera conford to do new things, but unfortunately we are still in the same place.


Locked in his bubble.
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If HAND, The Circle, WAN all sounded the same then I'd agree. Locked into the same producer, yes, absolutely. But you're confusing being mediocre with similar sounding albums. Those three albums have pretty different sounds to the point that no one is confusing them with each other, whereas a band like AC/DC is a sound that stretches across decades.

Was thinking the same thing Matt. For better or worse, the band doesn't repeat a sound or risky deviations like TLFR, Lost Highway (which I love), etc.

is that what the forum has become? People moaning about an album they havent heard yet?

Maybe They felt that releasing it in first few months on 2016 would be too close to Burning Bridges.

Also we dont actually know that the Label have held it back at all but maybe they have seen the release schedule and think its better released later on. We dont know.

Yup. It means they have the financial backing for a decent promo campaign. Fingers cross they right what they did wrong with WAN.

I won't say a single negative thing about the songs on the album until it's out, I think people need to at least give it that chance.

There is now. It looks like one of the studio shots from the BB days, but it is recent -- May 3 2016.


Maybe it was it meant to be mockup of the recent National Football League draft, LOL!



Now if only Island would get around to actually confirming it.

I'm not saying it's mediocre. Just I do not like this team. Jon and his producer John Shanks make the album. The latest albums sound very similar, both lyrically, intrumental and produced, they just change the mix. I could put a song like We All Fall Down on the HAND, Lost Highway or WAN albums and be coherent.

Only say, need changes structures, new approach, reinventing a bit.. We are in 2016 for the love of God..


And before everyone wants to shoot me, I just want to add a different perspective on the forum.

You can say without hearing the album, oh will be great! I'm excited , but you can not say something critical about it.

You're absolutely right you can't say something critical because you're critiquing something that doesn't even exist to us. I'm NOT saying it will be great, no one is. Different perspectives are great, we're saying give the album a chance to be hated at least.

Some of the songs would fit on other albums because they're Bon Jovi, that's what they sound like. I'm talking about albums as a whole.

Also stop calling them a team of Jon and John. Richie co-wrote every single track of The Circle and co-produced it as well as numerous songs and albums with John Shanks. I could care less how that makes you feel, stop excluding him from your revisionist history to fit your point.

I think Rolo is being unfairly flamed. His suggestion that an album with the same producer and same label will likely just create more of the same is not an unreasonable or unrealistic prediction. They may have recorded it differently this time with the entire band together rather than the piecemeal method they've been using for a while, but I don't see that alone making a monumental difference. I think the biggest difference with this album will be, for better or for worse, Richie's absence.

Had Jon replaced Shanks and/or had he gone with either an indy or some other label which could have possibly provided him with more artistic freedom, then the expectation of a truly different Bon Jovi album would be far greater. But Rolo expressing that he doesn't foresee a huge departure from the past few albums under this recurring model Jon keeps using is a fair in my opinion.

Thank you for pointing this out.

To me, Lost Highway (I love) is very different from The Circle (I don't like much) and both are very different from What About Now (I'm lukewarm about) and, of course, all are different from Burning Bridges (I love). There's an undercurrent to all albums that makes them undeniably Bon Jovi, but they are hardly cookie cutter albums. I fully expect the next album to stand on its own just as Lost Highway and The Circle do..... for good or bad.

If HAND is the same album like LH? (seriolusly?) The Circle, BB or WAN
Then SWW is the same album like NJ, BJ like Fahrenheit and TD like KTFaith.

I Don't see place in HAND for We All Fall Down. If they will change sound of that song from Pop-rock to more modern rock then it could fit. But I think that Born To Be My Baby, Sleep When I'm Dead or I'd Die For You would fit much better on HAND if they would make them more modern rock (in style of Novocaine for example).