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Rdkopper 06-30-2016 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jon-flp (Post 1202094)
We can see a diferent move here. I just don't if it has any effect in these days...

It will amongst fans... Videos stopped having a purpose for a while but now everyone watches everything online so although it might be target specific, it's still an outlet that shouldn't be ignored... And I think it's a plus for fans to add comments...

I initially thought this was going to get as much promo as Bruning Bridges considering the fact that no one cares about rock acts anymore, Richie is gone, and Jon's not as pretty as he used to be but it seems as if, they are going balls in...

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angelsambo 06-30-2016 02:19 PM

BonJoviTalk @TheMattBongiovi Can you give us info on genre? Rocky??

Matthew Bongiovi @BonJoviTalk it's a rock record for sure



Steve Emmerson @TheMattBongiovi @BonJoviTalk all killer no filler? 🤘🤘🤘🤘

Matthew Bongiovi @iam_emmo actually yes. Truly

bonjovi90 06-30-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1202100)

Steve Emmerson @TheMattBongiovi @BonJoviTalk all killer no filler? 🤘🤘🤘🤘

Matthew Bongiovi @iam_emmo actually yes. Truly

I wouldn't expect him so say anything different anyway. A post like "there are many good tracks, but some fillers" wouldn't come across as good promo :D

Faceman 06-30-2016 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1202103)
I wouldn't expect him so say anything different anyway. A post like "there are many good tracks, but some fillers" wouldn't come across as good promo :D

And besides that I bet Matt hasn't heard any song from the new album yet :cool:
To me he's a blatherskite. No more, no less.

steel_horse75 06-30-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1202100)
BonJoviTalk @TheMattBongiovi Can you give us info on genre? Rocky??

Matthew Bongiovi @BonJoviTalk it's a rock record for sure



Steve Emmerson @TheMattBongiovi @BonJoviTalk all killer no filler? 🤘🤘🤘🤘

Matthew Bongiovi @iam_emmo actually yes. Truly

Thats me!!!!!

Rdkopper 06-30-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1202104)
And besides that I bet Matt hasn't heard any song from the new album yet :cool:
To me he's a blatherskite. No more, no less.

You took the words right out of my mouth... he might have heard pieces but I doubt all finished 12 tracks...

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bjcrazycpa 06-30-2016 03:17 PM

Wasn't it reported on the woman with cancer that Jon surprised that he played her the new record? We don't know how much of it though I suppose.

Rdkopper 06-30-2016 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1202107)
Wasn't it reported on the woman with cancer that Jon surprised that he played her the new record? We don't know how much of it though I suppose.

She probably sampled it... she would literally have to sit there for 50+ minutes plugged into Jon's phone...

Jon probably play the first single or two and/or Jon had 30 second samples ready to go prior to her visit...

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steel_horse75 06-30-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1202106)
You took the words right out of my mouth...

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isnt that Meatloaf?

Rdkopper 06-30-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1202112)
isnt that Meatloaf?

That was pretty bad [emoji2]

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angelsambo 07-02-2016 03:41 PM

Bon Jovi UK ‏@BonJoviNewsUK

Who's ready for some new @BonJovi? The new album is f***ing FANTASTIC!!

Javier 07-02-2016 04:25 PM

At this point I'm ready to be amazed and disappointed, equal parts....

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rolo_tomachi 07-02-2016 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1202153)
Bon Jovi UK ‏@BonJoviNewsUK

Who's ready for some new @BonJovi? The new album is f***ing FANTASTIC!!

....and Video is awesome and really well done. You all will be very happy!!!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...NoWc/photo.jpg

liljovi93 07-05-2016 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1202105)
Thats me!!!!!

And me!!!!!

steel_horse75 07-05-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1202189)
And me!!!!!

It better be great after you have told everyone it is - without hearing it - you will be hunted down by the Twitteratti if its awful! haha

liljovi93 07-06-2016 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1202191)
It better be great after you have told everyone it is - without hearing it - you will be hunted down by the Twitteratti if its awful! haha

That wasn't my page haha. My page is BonJoviTalk

angelsambo 07-06-2016 01:50 PM

RC78 ‏@caslad78 @TheMattBongiovi Will there be any new stadium filling big rock songs on the new album?

Matthew Bongiovi@caslad78 count on it.

Bounce7800 07-06-2016 02:48 PM

Matt's really filling up the Bon Jovi new album hyperbole bingo card this week

Rdkopper 07-06-2016 02:55 PM

I think this is going to be the week they drop the first singls... Hopefully Friday

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steel_horse75 07-06-2016 03:18 PM

no chance

its weds now. Wouldve heard something by now re Fri release.

I reckon at least another month.

rolo_tomachi 07-06-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1202215)
RC78 ‏@caslad78 @TheMattBongiovi Will there be any new stadium filling big rock songs on the new album?

Matthew Bongiovi@caslad78 count on it.


They said something similar before the release of Because We Can, and honestly, this song is not Rock and not anthem stadium.

Don't take the opinion of nearby circles to the band, they tell you what you want to hear, but the reality will be very different.

Thierry 07-06-2016 04:11 PM

Well the album must be excellent if Matt says so :). :cool:

Becky 07-06-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1202220)
Don't take the opinion of nearby circles to the band, they tell you what you want to hear, but the reality will be very different.

You don't KNOW the REALITY of anything. You just WANT the album to be bad so you can be negative about it. Your entire goal in life is to be negative about anything do with Bon Jovi. The album could be the greatest thing since New Jersey and you'll still say it's crap and we all know you'll say it's crap no matter how good it is.

bwehehehe 07-06-2016 04:44 PM

We all want to be proven right, as simple as that. That can be "proven right" as in being right about the album being crap, being the best thing since sliced bread, or just being meh.

Rdkopper 07-06-2016 05:44 PM

Common sense needs to take over here... we're not going to get another These Days because Jon's not capable vocally. We're not going to get another I'll be There For You type ballad because Jon's not capable vocally.

Based on the facts stated leading up to this point in combination with common sense, and knowing the history of this band, I'm anticipating and album full of rockin tunes... Songs that aren't vocally challenging that Jon could pull off live (somewhat)...

An album like We Don't Run... I'm anticipating more edgier songs with better production... Fast, Guitars, Drums, Attitude... A modern 80s Bad Medicine meets IML style album... When I pop this CD in, I'm anticipating and 2016 Hey God to kick it off...

I don't think it's going to be all 100% non stop... I think the lead single and the majority will be but they'll be a few Teardrops in there as well...

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rolo_tomachi 07-06-2016 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1202223)
You don't KNOW the REALITY of anything. You just WANT the album to be bad so you can be negative about it. Your entire goal in life is to be negative about anything do with Bon Jovi. The album could be the greatest thing since New Jersey and you'll still say it's crap and we all know you'll say it's crap no matter how good it is.

That is not true, and you know it.

Becky 07-06-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1202226)
That is not true, and you know it.

No, I don't know it because that is exactly the impression you give on this board. You never have a positive thing to say about anything that has anything to do with Jon/Bon Jovi. You go out of your way to be negative about anything that is Jon-related. So I fully expect you to "hate" the new album and find endless flaws with it no matter WHAT it sounds like.

bonjovi90 07-06-2016 06:26 PM

I still think that Matt hasn't even heard the album yet :D

Chris_Newton 07-06-2016 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1202227)
No, I don't know it because that is exactly the impression you give on this board. You never have a positive thing to say about anything that has anything to do with Jon/Bon Jovi. You go out of your way to be negative about anything that is Jon-related. So I fully expect you to "hate" the new album and find endless flaws with it no matter WHAT it sounds like.

Agree with this 100 percent

Alphavictim 07-06-2016 08:25 PM

All I can see is, bring it on. It could be an awful album, it could be actually very enjoyable. All I gotta say is that another Burning Bridges ain't gonna cut it for me. But yeah, those were previously unused songs. But there's five songs top that I dig from that album (Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning, Who Would You Die For and Teardrop To The Sea are all great in their respective ways, We Don't Run is okay, and Fingerprints is a tad too long but has a nice atmosphere. But stuff like We All Fall Down is awful.)

I definitely am curious about the results of this, though. BB was a sort of test run of BJ without Richie (the lead-single was even co-written by him, after all), but this time, this is gonna reflect the A-game Jon can bring on his own. Maybe that'll give him some extra incentive to deliver.

Faceman 07-06-2016 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1202228)
I still think that Matt hasn't even heard the album yet :D

Neither do I :turn-l:

bonjovi90 07-06-2016 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1202232)
I definitely am curious about the results of this, though. BB was a sort of test run of BJ without Richie (the lead-single was even co-written by him, after all), but this time, this is gonna reflect the A-game Jon can bring on his own. Maybe that'll give him some extra incentive to deliver.

I agree with this. When Jon had to deliver his A-game on his solo records without Richie (and no, I'm not in any way indicating that Richie held Jon back on the band albums) he wrote some of his best stuff and both solo albums are really enjoyable in their own way. I'm curious as to how he has managed to transport this onto the "band sound". If there's anything left of that distinctive sound we were used to a decade or so ago is yet to be heard, though.

Javier 07-06-2016 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1202234)
I agree with this. When Jon had to deliver his A-game on his solo records without Richie (and no, I'm not in any way indicating that Richie held Jon back on the band albums) he wrote some of his best stuff and both solo albums are really enjoyable in their own way. I'm curious as to how he has managed to transport this onto the "band sound". If there's anything left of that distinctive sound we were used to a decade or so ago is yet to be heard, though.

In a way I think that Jon's solo career and band sound have merged in terms of sound and dinamic. I think a couple of songs on Burning bridges were meant for his third solo record like Teardrop and Blind love...

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rosa3 07-06-2016 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1202223)
You don't KNOW the REALITY of anything. You just WANT the album to be bad so you can be negative about it. Your entire goal in life is to be negative about anything do with Bon Jovi. The album could be the greatest thing since New Jersey and you'll still say it's crap and we all know you'll say it's crap no matter how good it is.

Becky u took the words right out of my mouth! Glad I am not the only one who feels the same way.

Alphavictim 07-07-2016 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1202236)
In a way I think that Jon's solo career and band sound have merged in terms of sound and dinamic. I think a couple of songs on Burning bridges were meant for his third solo record like Teardrop and Blind love...

Remember Crush?

Rdkopper 07-07-2016 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1202240)
Remember Crush?

The only difference is, I think Jon's Solo recordings and The Bands recordings have become one in the same since Shanks came on board....and going forward especially now that Richie's gone...

Take Dave and Tico's tracks out and replace them with session players and you have the same album...





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Alphavictim 07-07-2016 03:58 AM

We don't know how much of the keys are already done by guys not in the band anyway. Bobby played guitar, even a solo, on HAND, too. It's not exclusive to BJ, though - they're a huge band, and when you're in the studio with producers like Shanks, session players are gonna be around.

Captain_jovi 07-07-2016 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1202245)
We don't know how much of the keys are already done by guys not in the band anyway. Bobby played guitar, even a solo, on HAND, too. It's not exclusive to BJ, though - they're a huge band, and when you're in the studio with producers like Shanks, session players are gonna be around.

Whomever produces the band has a big part in playing guitar on those albums too. Supposedly Shanks is doing rhythm tracks all over his Jovi albums, Dan Huff as well. Someone here claimed to know for a fact that Tico only played on half of Lost Highway.

What I always found odd was Phil X doing session work on What do ya got, pre his band involvement and Jon not even being involved in that recording session, per an interview Phil gave.

Really, I don't know. I agree with the comment about Crush. Jon replacing tracks from solo with band is 50% of what Crush is and 80% what the Crush b-sides were so let's not act like this is new behavior. 2000 was the turning point or when the lines starting getting blurry. Maybe even 1997 if we're including Drive.

Alphavictim 07-07-2016 03:58 PM

It's Hard Letting You Go is just Jon, Richie and a drum machine as well. "Band album" has become synonymous with "Richie was very involved" after the 2000s (see Bounce or The Circle), which is why him leaving has a much bigger impact than anybody else's departure.

Hell, I suppose Hugh's creative input has been greater than David's ever since HAND, considering he writes his own basslines. David is usually just adding textures, and I'm pretty sure the "important ones" (WWBTF's chorus) were written before he got into the picture/studio.

BonJovi100 07-07-2016 08:12 PM

Keep The Faith is also based on some (half?) Jon solo songs which he wrote before he get band back again.
For many years we didn't know that Hugh recorded bass for BJ as a session musican.
And we don't know how many others sessions players played on their records before Crush.
So this is nothing new.

Now situation is little different because they said that they back and play demos on studio again with the whole band


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