I really liked what you said. Last night I watched the 2006 Giants night 3 show, which I attended. I was amazed at how much younger Jon appeared and how much better his voice was then. I looked at my husband and said, "I saw them at their peak, and sadly it won't be like that again." But I'm still a fan and am looking forward to another (and maybe the last big) tour.

I'm Affraid it's not quite the hard rock record we were hoping for 😞 More of the same old !

I totally agree that the HAND tour marks the last of the youthful, energetic Jon.

A 44 year old Jon is a long ten years later to a now 54 year old one, that's for sure. Lets see if Jon's got another 10 left in the tank.

I was at one of those shows too. The one during the thunderstorm. It was awesome!

Uh, its not even out yet.

Yes, these last 10 years have been rough on him. I guess it's happens to the best of us. The gray hair really ages him too, but I don't blame him for letting it go.

I'm Affraid it's not the hard rock record we all hopes for ! Same old same old 😞

It's a no win situation. He does look old but then again I don't want him to be Richie with his scraggly, dyed hair, shirt open to the navel, making suggestive comments to the audience, grabbing his crotch, etc. I guess Jon needs to figure out how to be a rockstar without looking or acting the part. I'm not discounting that he might be able to do it.

For years he idolized Frank Sinatra and I think he was hoping for the same trajectory of a career: occasional movies, powerful political friends, loyal & adoring fans, living his life and his work "his way" -- and to some extent he has succeeded. However, he doesn't have the respect that Sinatra (or Springsteen or Bono or the RollingStones) have had and I am not sure he and the revised Bon Jovi have the pulling power to really fill those arenas and stadiums or headline major festivals anymore. Bon Jovi isn't gaining new fans and I am not sure if the old fans haven't just seen enough already and if they are willing to buy those expensive tickets, book flights and hotels, etc. to see them. As much as I am shocked at his sold out Runaway Tour stops, are they indicative of his wider fan base? I've seen Bon Jovi in person and online many times; Jon has no new moves to offer and hearing a couple of new songs just isn't a lure. The absence of the comradery with Richie whether or not it was real is huge.

I think Phil X is fine but he has a terrible voice; I am surprised in the months and years that have followed that Jon hasn't found someone who can support him better vocally. Note: Phil X is near Jon in age (50) but still comes across as a rockstar much more than Jon. Sitting in a concert worrying about Jon's voice or having the production drown out his voice isn't a good time. Having him constantly telling the audience to stand up just reminds us all that the the high energy shows are a thing of the past.

I am really looking forward to this album. I liked BB - especially considering that it felt like a let's throw this together, fulfill a contractual obligation and get it over with record. I'm hoping THINFS is thought through kiss and make up, let's get it really right. I think they are also smart enough to know there will inevitably be the, Richie is missing crowd and they will have to kick it up for the nay sayers.

I'm hoping......

Have it on good authority . Matt says it's a rock record, his definition of rock is different to ours ! " what about now is a rock record " don't make me laugh Matt. It's not we we were expecting , fact !

That's not even close to what "Good authority" means. Wait until it's out.

That is not my source, is just an example of what Matt defines as rock ! You wait it ain't what we are expecting

I'm expecting Bon Jovi...

Utter crap, you have no idea what the album is like, no one has until we hear it. You just want to have a dig before its even released.. So based on this your not going to like it no matter what it sounds like.

This whole thread is Utter Crap... There is no real info up to date about the new album besides the album title, a subject to change release date of September, and a few album titles that everyone complained about particularly God Bless This Mess, which is not the first single... And Reunion is on the album...

Now, can we make this the first post and start over????

And yet twice I asked someone to knock up something for the op and both times it was ignored. If you care so much, do one. If not, wait until we have more info.

You're not really telling us anything we didn't know before...

You're blaming us because there's no new info and we're all discussing things? Get a grip, stop making everyone do what's best for you and you alone.

Oh wasn't it you that was posting snippets of lyrics from the songs with no source or explanation? If they're legit or not, you gotta give us more to go off of if you want people to believe you.

hey man, good timing. I'm at the Toronto airport boarding for Slovenia. u didn't hear it from me but it's not exactly a "hard rock" record. have a killer night.

Eddie! How do you know that???


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By the way: it looks like Jon is at Italy for some vacation. The first single will have to wait until he is back, I think.... We'll see.
http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cult...ba27fc2bd.html


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I was thinking the same thing... They aren't going to be dropping anything new while Jon's on vacation...

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Perhaps it is also trying to close a contract on tour to Italy, maybe concert promotion for after the summer?

Anything is possible but I just think he's on a family vacation. He's got people for that... Cuba was a rare exception (similar to what they did with Moscow in the 80's for press)...

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I have to admit I'm a little anxious to hear the new single.
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Lol to be fair you don't exactly need to be clairvoyant or have inside info to predict that a band that hasn't out out a hard rock album since 1992 has a new album out that is not gonna be a hard rock album....

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This.

Also, what do you expect people like Matt or Shanks to say? In the mindset of idiots "rock = greatness" while "pop = garbage". So off course they're gonna say "yes" if they're asked whether it's a rock album. That's just marketing 101.

But here is my question... if Matt, Shanks and even Jon are pumping this as a rock album, why not just give us a ****ing rock album... Why say one thing and give us the opposite, knowing what the fans want it... One would think a rock album is the easier path and less strain on Jon vocally as well...

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Amen.


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Playing devils advocate here - the music sounds the way Jon wants it to sound most likely because he wants to remain "current" and "relevant", etc. Look at We Don't Run for example. It's been well-received by most fans for its catchiness, but in no means it's a rock song. It's a pop anthem that sounds like it came straight from the Eurovision Song Contest. So my belief is that Jon (being the 'fighter' that he is) does not want to give up of scoring a hit or two and having another generation of fans.

Now in my personal opinion - at his age and hair color, he has no chance of achieving this. Bruce, Stones, U2, Aerosmith, McCartney, Dylan or any other legend all combined have 0 mainstream hits once they hit their 50s. But I think he doesn't want to give that up.

And since the "this album rocks" push has worked on their previous albums, they're doing the same thing.

This goes back to definitions. As we saw many people defined ballads differently we all probably define rock differently. The only person whose definition matters is Jon's.

Wow..it wasn't that bad...! :p

I think it's very obvious When a song is really Rock. His latest albums are pop records made by a rock band.

Pop

Rock n Roll

Rock

Phil X fan?

Well, then we do not expect songs like Hey God, ok.

They said it was a return to the roots, to the basics. I'm listening to the first album .... maybe Jon refers to make songs as Love Lives and She Dont Know me. Or maybe his return to the roots refers back to the formula Crush, I mean, as usual.

Its almost comical how everyone here is going round in circles figuring out or even presuming if the new BJ album would be more rock, pop or whatever, and yet there has not been one peep of new music out there to even hear a sample! It goes to show that patience is a virtue, and here there is a lack of it.

Perfectly stated...

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What Happened To Jon Bon Jovi?
 

The Classic Metal Show discuss 'What Happened To Jon Bon Jovi?'

What the hell are they talking about at the beginning? 4 different versions of the new song and they mention the direct tv song as if it was the new single? They don't have a ****ing clue what they're talking about....

To be honest Bon Jovi has never been a "hard rock" band except maybe for the first two albums and the occasionally Hey God, Undivided etc. Bon Jovi has always been a pop/rock band shaped by the times.