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bjcrazycpa 08-09-2016 06:47 PM

I like the looks of it but 10 seconds is waaaaay too short for me to form and opinion!

liljovi93 08-09-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1203826)
:popcorn:


:rofl:

when you discover you're on someone's ignore list. :lol:

Not mine if you think I said the Phil X thing was because I didn't see yours. I was typing and then refreshed and seen you put the post.

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 06:57 PM

I'm sorry, but though they are lonely 15 Seconds, sounds pretty generic. Waiting to Friday for see how is the whole thing.

trevrox 08-09-2016 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1203811)
Nothing wrong with hearing this...its gonna be the single

the other tracks i wont listen to!

I just want to be able to hear the whole thing start to finish though

jovifan85 08-09-2016 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203829)
I'm sorry, but though they are lonely 15 Seconds, sounds pretty generic. Waiting to Friday for see how is the whole thing.

ROLO, What do you expect? A SWW, NJ, KTF and TD? We all love for that to happen, but Jon can't sing like that anymore. A HAND/TC/BB combination is best we can hope for until the end. THINFS isn't groundbreaking but that's because that's jon's limit of how he can sing nowadays. Still THINFS Sounds like not a WAN 2 which we all agree is a relief!

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 07:07 PM

second 07 of the video
http://oi66.tinypic.com/wb3xua.jpg

An Angel? maybe Rage of Angels is on the new album?

liljovi93 08-09-2016 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan85 (Post 1203831)
ROLO, What do you expect? A SWW, NJ, KTF and TD? We all love for that to happen, but Jon can't sing like that anymore. A HAND/TC/BB combination is best we can hope for until the end. THISNFS isn't groundbreaking but that's because that's jon's limit of how he can sing what he think is rock nowadays. If you can call THISNFS Rock! Pop/rock at best! Still THISNFS Sounds not a WAN 2.

If you say 'Jon can't sing like that anymore' one more time, I'm going to hunt Jon down and give some ****ing helium just so he hits notes and it'll stop you from going on!

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan85 (Post 1203831)
ROLO, What do you expect? A SWW, NJ, KTF and TD? We all love for that to happen, but Jon can't sing like that anymore. A HAND/TC/BB combination is best we can hope for until the end. THISNFS isn't groundbreaking but that's because that's jon's limit of how he can sing what he think is rock nowadays. If you can call THISNFS Rock! Pop/rock at best! Still THISNFS Sounds not a WAN 2.

Jon was saying it was a return to the roots, it was a big rock, bla bla bla. I expected a song with more claw like We Dont Run, or something like Jovi brand Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning in the worst case.

I did not expect a SWW or These Days, but neither did expect this thing with generic sound that could be a Roman song.

jovifan85 08-09-2016 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1203833)
If you say 'Jon can't sing like that anymore' one more time, I'm going to hunt Jon down and give some ****ing helium just so he hits notes and it'll stop you from going on!

Sorry for being annoying! It's just What do fans expect with a shot voice and being 54? Long as WAN type Albums don't come along I'm happy!

steel_horse75 08-09-2016 07:17 PM

This is why im refraining from listening to future clips of songs. (allowed myself this one as its the single)

most of you have your mind made up you dont like it/love it/Its genric/Its no ITM etc etc etc

Impossible to tell after 15 seconds.

Lets wait until Friday until you praise or slate it.

Just remember you aint getting NJ2, SWW2 or KTF2 - Not happening.

jovifan85 08-09-2016 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1203837)
This is why im refraining from listening to future clips of songs. (allowed myself this one as its the single)

most of you have your mind made up you dont like it.

Impossible to tell after 15 seconds.

Lets wait until Friday until you praise or slate it.

Just remember you aint getting NJ2, SWW2 or KTF2 - Not happening.

I agree. But some fans are living in the past still. I don't mean on here but look at comments to this new single on Facebook.

golittleperson 08-09-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1203812)

ALSO does anyone think the X that comes on the 'Loved' is a hint about Phil X? You LOVED the band with Richie, now you LOVE 'X' with Phil.

No? Just me? Okay.


There is a little chatter on social media about the red X - and I kind of think it may be a subtle way to build up what is new for the band. It does Not mean they are putting down RS - just this is now. Didn't PhilX just get a new red X tatoo?

I wonder if those who said they would not hit the little tease seconds have stayed strong? I knew me better than that - the second I saw the feed I hit play.

Six-String 08-09-2016 07:31 PM

When I heard "I set each stone" I thought it's like the 1st line of New Divide (Linkin Park) "I remembered black skies" ...

Old Joysey 08-09-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1203828)
Not mine if you think I said the Phil X thing was because I didn't see yours. I was typing and then refreshed and seen you put the post.

I meant re/the guitar which is a fvcking FRAMUS gtr, not an SG, it doesn't even look like one. No matter how many times I write it's a fvcking FRAMUS + link to Phil's IG, nobody wants to believe it! Too funny! :lol:


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Originally Posted by golittleperson (Post 1203839)
Didn't PhilX just get a new red X tatoo?

He explained his tattoos are the names of his kids (his wife had a kid before they met so he now has 3). He's got a black X for his son Xavier and the red star is for Scarlett. No new red X tattoo as far as I know.

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1203837)
This is why im refraining from listening to future clips of songs. (allowed myself this one as its the single)

most of you have your mind made up you dont like it/love it/Its genric/Its no ITM etc etc etc

Impossible to tell after 15 seconds.

Lets wait until Friday until you praise or slate it.

Just remember you aint getting NJ2, SWW2 or KTF2 - Not happening.

1º Jon said back to the roots, well, this advance is not a return to the roots.

2º I did not expect a SWW or These Days, but neither did expect this thing with generic sound that could be a Roman song.

3º For some fans always put as an excuse to some critics, this nonsense about "What do you expect? A SWW, NJ, KTF and TD?" no, no, man, I did not say that.

4º Just expecting something more punchy, something better than We Dont Run. I'm not asking the sky, just something worthwhile and be exciting.

5º This is pop / rock as the last albums. Not Bad, but not great.

Captain_jovi 08-09-2016 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203842)
1º Jon said back to the roots, well, this advance is not a return to the roots.

2º I did not expect a SWW or These Days, but neither did expect this thing with generic sound that could be a Roman song.

3º For some fans always put as an excuse to some critics, this nonsense about "What do you expect? A SWW, NJ, KTF and TD?" no, no, man, I did not say that.

4º Just expecting something more punchy, something better than We Dont Run. I'm not asking the sky, just something worthwhile and be exciting.

5º This is pop / rock as the last albums.

You're judging the entire album on the vibe you're getting from ten seconds of the lead single, which is always the most commercial side of the whole thing. You're a broken record and absolutely asking for the sky. Jon didn't say the first single was a return to roots, he said the whole album was. And the lines the promo team has used for each album has been similar and people have hated it then too. People should unplug themselves from the promo machine and listen to it for themselves instead of waiting for the band to fail so they can call Jon a liar.

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1203843)
You're judging the entire album on the vibe you're getting from ten seconds of the lead single, which is always the most commercial side of the whole thing. You're a broken record and absolutely asking for the sky. Jon didn't say the first single was a return to roots, he said the whole album was. And the lines the promo team has used for each album has been similar and people have hated it then too. People should unplug themselves from the promo machine and listen to it for themselves instead of waiting for the band to fail so they can call Jon a liar.

Not so, I'm just saying that gives the impression that it will not be very different from their latest releases.

JOVI7826 08-09-2016 07:50 PM

Ok guys...Can you explain this???

https://youtu.be/TFyDMzgVjzI

This voice reminds me Jon's voice a lot...

Captain_jovi 08-09-2016 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1203845)
Ok guys...Can you explain this???

https://youtu.be/TFyDMzgVjzI

This voice reminds me Jon's voice a lot...

It's Jon from the Direct Tv commercials.

jon-flp 08-09-2016 07:56 PM

I'm wondering where the new song will be premiered..

Bon Jovi's site like Because we can? I thought that was cool.. that lyric video was great too.

Or maybe in Bon Jovi's facebook, or VEVO...

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1203845)
Ok guys...Can you explain this???

https://youtu.be/TFyDMzgVjzI

This voice reminds me Jon's voice a lot...


These 15 seconds was more exciting than their new single.
:lol:

JOVI7826 08-09-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203848)
These 15 seconds was more exciting than her new single.
:lol:

I am afraid I thought the same too!!!Though it sounds like HAND No 2...

rosa3 08-09-2016 07:59 PM

I guess no matter what u say, you will never convince satisfy anyone, people would just stuck in their own ways, not willing to be open minded.

steel_horse75 08-09-2016 08:04 PM

New Bon Jovi Album: This House Is Not For Sale (2016)
 
I'm just thankful for new stuff from a band I fell in love with at 13. (Now 41)
I'm stuck in 80s/90s when it comes to jovi but I accept the best days are probably gone. Let's hope this album is a pleasant surprise. But let's wait for it before opinions and not judge on 15 seconds or even the full song when out. There's probably another 11 new songs to hear before we judge

Xavi 08-09-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203842)
1º Jon said back to the roots, well, this advance is not a return to the roots.

2º I did not expect a SWW or These Days, but neither did expect this thing with generic sound that could be a Roman song.

3º For some fans always put as an excuse to some critics, this nonsense about "What do you expect? A SWW, NJ, KTF and TD?" no, no, man, I did not say that.

4º Just expecting something more punchy, something better than We Dont Run. I'm not asking the sky, just something worthwhile and be exciting.

5º This is pop / rock as the last albums. Not Bad, but not great.

Jon said back to the roots referring to recover the habit of having the whole band together in the studio while recording the album,instead of the last albums habits of recording each one parts without being together in the studio.
No reference to the album style.

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1203851)
I'm just thankful for new stuff from a band I fell in love with at 13. (Now 41)
I'm stuck in 80s/90s when it comes to jovi but I accept the best days are probably gone. Let's hope this album is a pleasant surprise. But let's wait for it before opinions and not judge on 15 seconds or even the full song when out. There's probably another 11 new songs to hear before we judge

If the 15 seconds teaser is bad, you should wait for the full song BUT if you find the full song poor then you should wait the full album.

I suppose that bad impressions are not welcome but the good ones are taken as something more accurate. Same 15 seconds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1203852)
Jon said back to the roots referring to recover the habit of having the whole band together in the studio while recording the album,instead of the last albums habits of recording each one parts without being together in the studio.
No reference to the album style.

But.... If Philx only play in 4 songs. :confused:

Xavi 08-09-2016 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203853)
If the 15 seconds teaser is bad, you should wait for the full song BUT if you find the full song poor then you should wait the full album.

I suppose that bad impressions are not welcome but the good ones are taken as something more accurate. Same 15 seconds.



But.... If Philx only play in 4 songs. :confused:

Who play the guitars?

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1203854)
Who play the guitars?

Mr Shanks.

crobb991 08-09-2016 08:55 PM

This has got my expectations much higher then they were. I love the tempo and the fact that its catchy... 3 more days

Xavi 08-09-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203855)
Mr Shanks.

So u got the answer,everybody was on the studio in the recording process:wink:

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1203857)
So u got the answer,everybody was on the studio in the recording process:wink:

True. but is he in the band? I have no problem with the John Shanks "guitar player" work, I was impressed in WWYFF and Fingerprints, but I do not like as producer, I do not like their sound.

Captain_jovi 08-09-2016 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203853)
If the 15 seconds teaser is bad, you should wait for the full song BUT if you find the full song poor then you should wait the full album.

I suppose that bad impressions are not welcome but the good ones are taken as something more accurate. Same 15 seconds.



But.... If Philx only play in 4 songs. :confused:

Stop saying 15, it's 10. The video is 15, we have the first line of the chorus. I totally agree, if we can't take it's bad we also can't take it's good. Obviously this board is here for everyone's opinions but you've twisted Jon's words and misunderstood him completely in order to back up your claim of the album sucking. All we ask is people give it time. Judge the song when you hear the song. You're going crazy complaining about the lack of guitars and we haven't heard one iota of a guitar solo because it's been ten seconds. What if the solo blows you away? You don't even know if it has one.

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2016 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1203859)
Stop saying 15, it's 10. The video is 15, we have the first line of the chorus. I totally agree, if we can't take it's bad we also can't take it's good. Obviously this board is here for everyone's opinions but you've twisted Jon's words and misunderstood him completely in order to back up your claim of the album sucking. All we ask is people give it time. Judge the song when you hear the song. You're going crazy complaining about the lack of guitars and we haven't heard one iota of a guitar solo because it's been ten seconds. What if the solo blows you away? You don't even know if it has one.

A song with guitars is not just the guitar solo, in those "10 seconds", the guitars are inaudible because the mix is poor.

This is only an impression, IMO. You not take beyond what is my opinion, my first impressions. Who knows, maybe, Friday I really like the new single when is out in full.

Captain_jovi 08-09-2016 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203860)
A song with guitars is not just the guitar solo, in those "10 seconds", the guitars are inaudible because the mix is poor.

This is only an impression, IMO. You not take beyond what is my opinion, my first impresions. Who knows, maybe, Friday I really like the new single when is out in full.

Inaudible? Come on, you can hear them just fine. Your opinion is your opinion, okay. Your opinion is reaching through to judge the album in full. We're going in circles and I don't want to keep arguing about this. I have to stop.

It's my faith 08-09-2016 09:41 PM

Let's all remember how "meh" Who Would You Die For sounded on the sample. It was only the first verse. When the whole song came out we named it one of the best songs of BB.

Old Joysey 08-09-2016 09:48 PM

#3moredaystoTHINFS

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpbwZeDXEAEpsYg.jpg

crobb991 08-09-2016 09:55 PM

Does anyone think the album is gonna be silently launched... Within the next week or two once the single drops?

jovifan85 08-09-2016 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by crobb991 (Post 1203864)
Does anyone think the album is gonna be silently launched... Within the next week or two once the single drops?

I would say that it depends on how the reaction is to THINFS.

bonjovi90 08-09-2016 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crobb991 (Post 1203864)
Does anyone think the album is gonna be silently launched... Within the next week or two once the single drops?

No. It may leak earlier but it'll most likely be launched in October.

DryCounty 08-09-2016 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1203860)
A song with guitars is not just the guitar solo, in those "10 seconds", the guitars are inaudible because the mix is poor.

This is only an impression, IMO. You not take beyond what is my opinion, my first impressions. Who knows, maybe, Friday I really like the new single when is out in full.

How in hell can you not hear the guitars in the chorus?


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