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steel_horse75 08-08-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonbred (Post 1191343)
The snippets are scaring me. I dont like the sound of any of em. They better not represent the new sound of 2016 album

We Dont Run is supposed to. But Im with you, these sound boring.

BonJovi100 08-08-2015 11:21 AM

I think this is main reason why Jon isn't excited about this album.
They put here all kind off different type of music which they have done for years.
I don't see they fit on any normal Bon Jovi album.
Jon can be affraid what fans will be thinking about spanish style, placebo feeling or drinking song.
But for me it's fantastic "special" album. I want that kind of different songs on albums like these.
I would hate Blind Love on HAND or Crush like I hate many slow songs on Bounce but on CD like this I can accept that song. And it's strange but I wake up and I heard on my head chorus of that song ;O

Snippets?
I'm Your Man, Life Is Beautiful, WWDFor are best for me
Fingerprints - I want hear it full. 1 listen was - WTF? Second - It's catchy and funny.

I'm waiting for this CD even more now!

newikov 08-08-2015 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1191321)
I'm playing catch up. Where did you find credits for Blind Love and Teardrop?

iTunes tracks contain tags with authors

KSantaFe 08-08-2015 11:35 AM

I'm very happy with the previews honestly. I'm a little skeptical of We All Fall Down, and I don't really get Burning Bridges yet, but it's only 30 secs.

Who Would You Die For sounds amazing as far as I'm concerned, as does Fingerprints. But the standout has to be I'm You Man, it rocks! (based on the preview only of course)

Demonbred 08-08-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1191345)
We Dont Run is supposed to. But Im with you, these sound boring.

Lets bloody hope so. Im praying at least most songs are like WDR. Burning Bridges is sounding like a Jon Bon Jovi solo album except for WDR with all the experimentatation.

bonjovi90 08-08-2015 12:00 PM

I remember reading in a book around 2005 that Jon had written a song for a Peter Pan movie that "was really great", but he pulled it from the film.
I'm starting to think that this might've been "Life Is Beautiful".

Demonbred 08-08-2015 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1191350)
I remember reading in a book around 2005 that Jon had written a song for a Peter Pan movie that "was really great", but he pulled it from the film.
I'm starting to think that this might've been "Life Is Beautiful".

Sounded the best for me from the snippets and Fingerprints I may also like but thats about it.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BMF (Post 1191336)
Has anyone posted this yet?

30 second snippets of each song on the album

http://www.supraphonline.cz/album/10...rackId=1335465

So this is the prelude to the 2016 album ....

polevka 08-08-2015 01:00 PM

What have I just heard???

I think Burning Bridges is a boxsetwithupdate-late90sJBJ-mix with an above average band album song from the recent past (SNGMSM) and near future (WDR).

So far (with the exception of We All Fall Down) I like it a lot for what it is. The term "fan album" makes sense now.

Captain Hook 08-08-2015 01:01 PM

Wow, I will love this album. That's for sure. :D

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by polevka (Post 1191353)
What have I just heard???

I think Burning Bridges is a boxsetwithupdate-late90sJBJ-mix with an above average band album song from the recent past (SNGMSM) and near future (WDR).

So far (with the exception of We All Fall Down) I like it a lot for what it is. The term "fan album" makes sense now.

The term "JBJ album" makes more sense. And Beutiful Day could be in the album perfectly.

scoual 08-08-2015 01:05 PM

Finally seeing what the fan album definition meant, it didn't mean that we'd be getting great tracks to reward years of being faithful fans but rather that you'd really need to be a blind fan to be wanting to buy or listen to those tracks hence jon's enthusiasm about it! ��

steel_horse75 08-08-2015 01:24 PM

Bon Jovi "Fan Album": Burning Bridges- Out 21 Aug
 
This album will make the haters hate even more. You will have to be real fan to accept it

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1191358)
This album will make the haters hate even more. You will have to be real fan to accept it

A real Jon fan of course.

This is not a band album, man. This is just a quirk of Jon Bon Jovi. Anyway, waiting to hear everything in its entirety. My hopes for the new Richie album have risen , can not be worse than this.

scoual 08-08-2015 01:34 PM

I'd consider real fan stuff the sessions from the vault but not those doctored new tracks without the inputs of the historic second most important member of the band, anyway after releasing something like wan and a tour like the last one the band (can we still say that?) has lost a lot of the credibility that they'd acquired through hard work and great music...

Bounce7800 08-08-2015 01:35 PM

Well the reaction here sure changed sharpish despite the "can't judge a song on a 30 second clip" rule.

Yeah, quite a few slowies but for a group of bonus songs it is interesting and more importantly- different.

I'm Your Man sounds like it could be a decent upbeat tune, not sure what the hell Burning Bridges will be. Jon turning into a Pogues tribute band on St Patricks Day.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1191362)
Well the reaction here sure changed sharpish despite the "can't judge a song on a 30 second clip" rule.

Yeah, quite a few slowies but for a group of bonus songs it is interesting and more importantly- different.

I'm Your Man sounds like it could be a decent upbeat tune, not sure what the hell Burning Bridges will be. Jon turning into a Pogues tribute band on St Patricks Day.

I do not think we are judging the songs, only the previews of 30 seconds. But definitely, this is not what I expected.

Demonbred 08-08-2015 02:05 PM

The snippets don't sound like Bon Jovi thats my problem. I'm a Bon Jovi fan not a Jon Bon Jovi fan hardly ever listened to Destination Anywhere and have never bought a Richie solo album.

steel_horse75 08-08-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonbred (Post 1191364)
The snippets don't sound like Bon Jovi thats my problem. I'm a Bon Jovi fan not a Jon Bon Jovi fan hardly ever listened to Destination Anywhere and have never bought a Richie solo album.



100% with you on that. Although I do own Richie albums but never listen to them bar a few tracks on stranger.

Demonbred 08-08-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1191365)
100% with you on that. Although I do own Richie albums but never listen to them bar a few tracks on stranger.

Thanks. Yeah it's not the same. I've liked the songs released but can't see myself liking the rest even with only 30 seconds. Life Is Beautiful might be only exception

IML88 08-08-2015 02:45 PM

Difficult to judge on 30 second snippets, but first listen feels like JBJ ouput, not Bon Jovi.

Was hoping for some rock songs but sounds like the remaining album will be heavily acoustic.

I don't think anyone should judge this album too much, nothing on here was intended for release and its simply a contractual album. If there are a couple of good tracks then great, if bar WDR and Teardrop its pure rubbish, so be it. Its just nice to get new material to tied us over until the proper album next year. Its more than anyone thought we'd get in 2015 so its a nice surprise.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 02:46 PM

I'll take the optimist in me. After my great disappointment to discover that this is a pop album as crush, I'll try to take the positive side of this.


1 A Teardrop to the Sea - I love this track.
2 We Don’t Run - Good but missing guitars
3 Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning - Classic Jovi post2000. Its ok, i like it.
4 We All Fall Down - I do not like, sounds very cheesy, these songs are those who hate.
5 Blind Love - Boring.
6 Who Would You Die For - Waiting to hear whole.
7 Fingerprints - Waiting to hear whole.
8 Life Is Beautiful - Crap.
9 Im Your Man - Sound like a Mick Jagger song, its ok.
10 Burning Bridges - It has a southern touch, I like that, it can be fun and cool.
11 Take Back The Night - ....?

scoual 08-08-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IML88 (Post 1191368)
Difficult to judge on 30 second snippets, but first listen feels like JBJ ouput, not Bon Jovi.

Was hoping for some rock songs but sounds like the remaining album will be heavily acoustic.

I don't think anyone should judge this album too much, nothing on here was intended for release and its simply a contractual album. If there are a couple of good tracks then great, if bar WDR and Teardrop its pure rubbish, so be it. Its just nice to get new material to tied us over until the proper album next year. Its more than anyone thought we'd get in 2015 so its a nice surprise.

Don't forget that months ago or even maybe a year ago we were promised deluxe editions of past albums etc...This was everywhere in the press and now this is just like nothing was said about this...really disappointing for real fans to learn that the band can't be trusted anymore and that they can change their mind because the release was a flop. ....what matters most music or money?

Rdkopper 08-08-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by scoual (Post 1191370)
....what matters most music or money?

That's a black and white comment.

It cost money to be these releases together. It's not as simple as just opening the vault and picking songs. Even the box set needed to be completed.

Songs need to be a certain standard of quality and musicians don't come cheap.

These are not Jon's decisions, the record company has the control.

Becky 08-08-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191355)
The term "JBJ album" makes more sense. And Beutiful Day could be in the album perfectly.


What is your obsession with Beautiful Day being on a Bon Jovi album? Jon didn't write it. The day it shows up on a regular Bon Jovi album is the day I drive to Tennessee, find the nearest gas station, and buy a lottery ticket because that's the day I'm going to win the power ball.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1191373)
What is your obsession with Beautiful Day being on a Bon Jovi album? Jon didn't write it. The day it shows up on a regular Bon Jovi album is the day I drive to Tennessee, find the nearest gas station, and buy a lottery ticket because that's the day I'm going to win the power ball.

Although he did not write, fits this collection of songs.

ezearis 08-08-2015 04:23 PM

Who Would You Die For reminds me of a song but I can't figure out which one! It's a new one, wasn't released before 2010 for sure I think.

Not a fan of the snippets but it'd be stupid to judge a song for only 30 seconds.

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191374)
Although he did not write, fits this collection of songs.

It doesn't fit at all, Beautiful Day screams "musical" all over. Is the typical song for a musical, the rest of the record doesn't.

Savvi 08-08-2015 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1191358)
You will have to be real fan to accept it.

I detest this comment.

steel_horse75 08-08-2015 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1191376)
I detest this comment.


Ignore it then

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1191375)
It doesn't fit at all, Beautiful Day screams "musical" all over. Is the typical song for a musical, the rest of the record doesn't.

and...? still fits in this collection.

When will they release the song of Avici with JBJ? any idea?

ezearis 08-08-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191379)
and...? still fits in this collection.

When will they release the song of Avici with JBJ? any idea?

I have no idea, I was excited for it but it was delayed so many times that I just really don't care anymore.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 04:43 PM

any preview of take back the night? maybe is very good.

Rdkopper 08-08-2015 04:44 PM

Here's my opinion on these songs and where they come from.

After TC, Jon did mention that he might possibly be doing another solo album. He also mentioned that it would be an acoustic style type album. I think that's what this is and where most of these songs are from, especially the second half of the album.

I think Jon planned on doing a simple acoustic style album with songs like "Blind Love" in his home studio. That's when he was doing 'The Stand Up Guy' tracks of which some of these songs could be part of that session too. Jon might have had a bunch of songs in different stages and then scrapped the idea for WAN.

With the exception of We Don't Run, SNGMSM, maybe Teardrop, and a few others, most of this album is what was supposed to be Jon's third solo album between TC and WAN.

I also made a comment that some of these songs sound like they were written for movies and I wouldn't be surprised if Jon did get his hands on another script in between that time too.

It's just a combination of a few things that Jon was working on that was never completed. That's why Jon doesn't know what to call these songs. They aren't old enough or weren't completed enough to be considered "vault" tracks.

Alphavictim 08-08-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191379)
and...? still fits in this collection.

When will they release the song of Avici with JBJ? any idea?

Unused songs by the band is the same as guest appearances by band members? I guess the Pink song Richie played a solo on would fit the collection as well then?

Captain_jovi 08-08-2015 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by scoual (Post 1191370)
Don't forget that months ago or even maybe a year ago we were promised deluxe editions of past albums etc...This was everywhere in the press and now this is just like nothing was said about this...really disappointing for real fans to learn that the band can't be trusted anymore and that they can change their mind because the release was a flop. ....what matters most music or money?

What are you even talking about? The band didn't do any of that stuff. Absolutely money is more important to a business.

Captain_jovi 08-08-2015 05:20 PM

My thoughts:

We All Fall Down - The melody is nice, the lyrics make me want to drive nails into my skull. The conspiracy guy in me notices how close the melody is to What About Now, and both have "Stand up and be proud".

Who Would You Die For - Ahhhh. What the hell. This is....left field quirky.

Fingerprints - Really interesting to hear how it's almost 6 minutes. Love the time signature.

Life is Beautiful - This one seems the blandest of the new samples. Is that Dave singing with Jon again?

I'm Your Man - Mid tempo fun. That chorus will get stuck in my head. Definitely hear some Teles in there, sounds like Crush-era mixed with current radio.

Burning Bridges - THIS is the kind of stuff I was waiting for. I'm absolutely loving this one, the tip of the hat to Wanted Dead or Alive was a nice touch.

I don't know, I'm baffled. This sounds like such an un-band album. Or a mix of Jon solo and band. It's a completely new sound if it's a band album that preludes the next one. The lyrics aren't even as bad as past releases which leads me to think it really was Jon's proposed solo album with tracks like Amen and The Fighter replaced with some newer songs.

Zero uptempo rockers until a new song got added. Out of left field songs, different styles, the return of love songs. We were begging for something different and a serious change and this is it. It just wasn't the change a lot of people were expecting.

Flop or fail, this is in This Left Feels Right territory, it's going to divide a LOT of fans, and a I don't know how much the label pushed Jon into this but I'm glad they did.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1191383)
Unused songs by the band is the same as guest appearances by band members? I guess the Pink song Richie played a solo on would fit the collection as well then?

It's a Bon Jovi album with songs JBJ solo, some sound like soundtracks, and beautiful day fits into that damn collection, because Jon is the singer and Shanks the producer. I do not care was a musical, I do not care that it was written by others. We dont run is very diferent of blind love, and are in the album.

Captain_jovi 08-08-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191386)
It's a Bon Jovi album with songs JBJ solo, some sound like soundtracks, and beautiful day fits into that damn collection, because Jon is the singer and Shanks the producer. I do not care was a musical, I do not care that it was not written by others. We dont run is very diferent of blind love, and are in the album.

It's. Not. Happening. Move on. The band doesn't put songs written for other projects on these things.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1191387)
It's. Not. Happening. Move on. The band doesn't put songs written for other projects on these things.

I'm just saying it could be. Remember Old Habits and Not Running, Every Road from What About Now special edition. The Boys are back in town from New Jersey?

Captain_jovi 08-08-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191388)
I'm just saying it could be. Remember Old Habits and Not Running, Every Road from What About Now special edition.

Jon wrote those songs. A member of the band wrote Every Road. Your example holds no weight because, again, Jon didn't write Beautiful Day. The song stylistically doesn't fit the vibe of this album and again Jon didn't write it. Even if it DID fit, it's just a song Jon sang on for a soundtrack. You're obsessed.


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