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ezearis 08-08-2015 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191386)
because Jon is the singer and Shanks the producer.

So you're saying that basically you can take any song of the last 4 albums and make a studio record because Jon is the singer and Shanks the producer?

I disagree with you. Have A Nice Day has a different sound than The Circle does, for example.

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191388)
I'm just saying it could be. Remember Old Habits and Not Running, Every Road from What About Now special edition.

Those were bonus tracks and written by band members.

Javier 08-08-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1191385)
My thoughts:

We All Fall Down - The melody is nice, the lyrics make me want to drive nails into my skull. The conspiracy guy in me notices how close the melody is to What About Now, and both have "Stand up and be proud".

Who Would You Die For - Ahhhh. What the hell. This is....left field quirky.

Fingerprints - Really interesting to hear how it's almost 6 minutes. Love the time signature.

Life is Beautiful - This one seems the blandest of the new samples. Is that Dave singing with Jon again?

I'm Your Man - Mid tempo fun. That chorus will get stuck in my head. Definitely hear some Teles in there, sounds like Crush-era mixed with current radio.

Burning Bridges - THIS is the kind of stuff I was waiting for. I'm absolutely loving this one, the tip of the hat to Wanted Dead or Alive was a nice touch.

I don't know, I'm baffled. This sounds like such an un-band album. Or a mix of Jon solo and band. It's a completely new sound if it's a band album that preludes the next one. The lyrics aren't even as bad as past releases which leads me to think it really was Jon's proposed solo album with tracks like Amen and The Fighter replaced with some newer songs.

Zero uptempo rockers until a new song got added. Out of left field songs, different styles, the return of love songs. We were begging for something different and a serious change and this is it. It just wasn't the change a lot of people were expecting.

Flop or fail, this is in This Left Feels Right territory, it's going to divide a LOT of fans, and a I don't know how much the label pushed Jon into this but I'm glad they did.

I'm with you, I'm really glad we're getting this album, it sounds fresh and I can't wait to hear the songs in full. It's just so far away from what I was expecting that I really need to adjust my expectations and give it the first full listen with an open mind. I'm your Man sounds like it's coming from the same place 'I got the Girl' and 'Thief of Hearts' came from which has me really excited to hear it in full next week. Burning Bridges sounds like exactly the type of music I was listening to a LOT last year. The only thing that I could really complain about is that in 'we all fall down' Jon sounds like he's putting no effort at all into his vocal delivery. I get that these are just snippets but, he sounds so bored in what we could hear of that track. Of course that could change as most of these snippets cut off before the song is about to go somewhere.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 05:34 PM

The Boys are back in town? She don't Know Me?

Captain_jovi 08-08-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191393)
The Boys are back in town? She don't Know Me?

She don't know me is the reason it will never happen again. Jon's made it clear. The Boys are back in town wasn't on a regular band release that came out as an album. It's happened a single time in 30+ years.

Javier 08-08-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191393)
The Boys are back in town? She don't Know Me?

Soundtrack song. Label compromise to get deal for what was at the time a new band. Your examples don't fit, let it go and admit that you're wrong. I can sort of see what you're saying with the sound, but you're still wrong....

bwehehehe 08-08-2015 05:41 PM

I was definitely expecting rockers in the album, but the album is just different. Not something I expected, but not sure whether it's good or what.

This would make half the album not using acoustic guitars (WWYDF, WDR, Teardrops, Blind Love, and possibly I'm Your Man).

We All Fall Down is quite weak in its chorus. Like Captain_jovi, sing this one with me:
WHO STAND FOR THE RESTLESS, AND THE LONELY... (in a higher key)

Who Would You Die For appears to be DA meets Crush.

I'd need a barong tagalog for Fingerprints and start waltzing my way around the room.

Not sure what to say with Life Is Beautiful. Nothing special in it.

I can live with I'm Your Man. This one's very Jon.

Burning Bridges...okay, it's probably the weirdest of the bunch. The song sounds extremely lighthearted for such a serious title. Just too much dissonance in there. Maybe an over-the-top more mature version of Love For Sale?

Take Back The Night? Speculating this is like Into The Echo.

ezearis 08-08-2015 05:42 PM

GUYS nobody figured out what song does We All Fall Down sounds like? It's driving me crazy that I can't remember! The chorus is "SNGMSM-Gotta Be Somebody" similar.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1191397)
GUYS nobody figured out what song does We All Fall Down sounds like? It's driving me crazy that I can't remember! The chorus is "SNGMSM-Gotta Be Somebody" similar.

No, sound like Beautiful Day ;)

ezearis 08-08-2015 05:46 PM

Thought for a moment that was My Fault by Imagine Dragons but no... it's another one. ****. I need to figure it out.

Savvi 08-08-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1191399)
Thought for a moment that was My Fault by Imagine Dragons but no... it's another one. ****. I need to figure it out.

It's bugging me too a bit, now that you mentioned it haha.

I know I'm in the minority but I do like the snippet of We All Fall Down. The lyrics are painful, but the melody and music is nice.

steel_horse75 08-08-2015 06:02 PM

The album works better as a Jbj solo album. We don't run aside these are NOT Bon Jovi songs.

Rdkopper 08-08-2015 06:04 PM

I did a once over of the snippets just to get an idea of the type of sounds and tempos. I refuse to give them a second listen and more so judge them.

However, after listening, I do backup my statement that this album is Jon's squashed attempt at a 3rd solo album.

Buring Bridges is the Sex Sells of Crush.

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Captain_jovi 08-08-2015 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1191397)
GUYS nobody figured out what song does We All Fall Down sounds like? It's driving me crazy that I can't remember! The chorus is "SNGMSM-Gotta Be Somebody" similar.

I still stand by "What about now"

Climb every mountain
Who'll stand for the....

Lucas_Roli 08-08-2015 06:15 PM

I'm Your Man sounds like a really fun track. Is it getting released next friday?

JackieBlue 08-08-2015 06:47 PM

I like all of these, too! But I'm just not hearing what either excites OR disappoints people so much, for several reasons.

First, it's 30 second clips. Someone (I think it was steel_horse) acknowledged that he had initially misjudged Teardrop from the snippet, because after he heard the whole song it turned out that he loved it. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a group of people who are so quick to jump to hard fast conclusions with little or no information. I just don't get why the need to make a judgment about anything (or anyone!) is so urgent that it has to be done immediately, even when the information is incomplete.

Second, just like with the songs we've already heard, these snippets really don't sound all that different from the rest of the Bon Jovi catalog to me.

Third, some of you seem to have a hard time making up your minds. On one hand, you're "tired of the same old shit" and want Bon Jovi to do something different. On the other hand, you don't like something if it veers too far from the sound you're familiar with, because it "doesn't sound like Bon Jovi". You want something current or relevant, something that doesn't sound dated. But if it has a "newer" sound, comparisons are instantly made to some other group or artist, which, of course, Jon must have copied! :roll:

It seems to me that Bon Jovi simply can't win with some of you guys!!

Personally, I miss the distinct sound of Richie's vocals in places, but in some of the songs, especially WDR, I would almost swear that I hear him, especially in "Hey! Hey! Hey!", "Ru-u-n", and "We! Don't! Run!" I even thought that he could have been playing, right before the guitar solo takes over. I'm not talking about the "heavy (handed) meaty shredding lead". They clearly stated that Shanks was playing that! :) (But you notice they DIDN'T say, at anytime I can recall, that Richie ISN'T playing at all. They've just said Shanks was playing lead and let us draw our own conclusions - just like Jonny did at the end of the Q&A. ;))

There's something 'clunky' about the transition to the solo. It's in the tone and clarity from the electric at the end of the chorus right before the heavier lead in the solo takes over. At best, I'm a guitarist-wannabe, so I don't know how to describe what I'm hearing. Maybe one of the real guitarists here could better explain what I'm trying to say?

Is it wishful thinking on my part? Perhaps. But it wouldn't surprise me if we learn down the road that Richie was involved with this on some level. And I'll just put this out there while I'm at it - recognizing fully that it's nothing more than conjecture - but I think the reason they "gotta sit on" a completed album until April or May may be so that Richie can do whatever he's going to do with his album and then join them. Then they can add "He's BAA-A-AACK!" to whatever marketing strategy they have planned.

As I said, maybe I'm reaching; but there is just too much weirdness associated with this album, not to mention the delay in releasing the "next" new one. As it sits right now, I'm looking forward to hearing their "latest" album and the "next" one, too. I expect that I'll like both of them, with the same varying favorite and not-so-favorite songs that I've had for all their previous releases.

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1191405)
I like all of these, too! But I'm just not hearing what either excites OR disappoints people so much, for several reasons.

First, it's 30 second clips. Someone (I think it was steel_horse) acknowledged that he had initially misjudged Teardrop from the snippet, because after he heard the whole song it turned out that he loved it. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a group of people who are so quick to jump to hard fast conclusions with little or no information. I just don't get why the need to make a judgment about anything (or anyone!) is so urgent that it has to be done immediately, even when the information is incomplete.

Second, just like with the songs we've already heard, these snippets really don't sound all that different from the rest of the Bon Jovi catalog to me.

Third, some of you seem to have a hard time making up your minds. On one hand, you're "tired of the same old shit" and want Bon Jovi to do something different. On the other hand, you don't like something if it veers too far from the sound you're familiar with, because it "doesn't sound like Bon Jovi". You want something current or relevant, something that doesn't sound dated. But if it has a "newer" sound, comparisons are instantly made to some other group or artist, which, of course, Jon must have copied! :roll:

It seems to me that Bon Jovi simply can't win with some of you guys!!

Personally, I miss the distinct sound of Richie's vocals in places, but in some of the songs, especially WDR, I would almost swear that I hear him, especially in "Hey! Hey! Hey!", "Ru-u-n", and "We! Don't! Run!" I even thought that he could have been playing, right before the guitar solo takes over. I'm not talking about the "heavy (handed) meaty shredding lead". They clearly stated that Shanks was playing that! :) (But you notice they DIDN'T say, at anytime I can recall, that Richie ISN'T playing at all. They've just said Shanks was playing lead and let us draw our own conclusions - just like Jonny did at the end of the Q&A. ;))

There's something 'clunky' about the transition to the solo. It's in the tone and clarity from the electric at the end of the chorus right before the heavier lead in the solo takes over. At best, I'm a guitarist-wannabe, so I don't know how to describe what I'm hearing. Maybe one of the real guitarists here could better explain what I'm trying to say?

Is it wishful thinking on my part? Perhaps. But it wouldn't surprise me if we learn down the road that Richie was involved with this on some level. And I'll just put this out there while I'm at it - recognizing fully that it's nothing more than conjecture - but I think the reason they "gotta sit on" a completed album until April or May may be so that Richie can do whatever he's going to do with his album and then join them. Then they can add "He's BAA-A-AACK!" to whatever marketing strategy they have planned.

As I said, maybe I'm reaching; but there is just too much weirdness associated with this album, not to mention the delay in releasing the "next" new one. As it sits right now, I'm looking forward to hearing their "latest" album and the "next" one, too. I expect that I'll like both of them, with the same varying favorite and not-so-favorite songs that I've had for all their previous releases.

I agree. But many fans, we needed more rock. This is a pending issue for a long time.

Jonty 08-08-2015 07:27 PM

Where are the snippets or other full songs available?

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1191407)
Where are the snippets or other full songs available?

http://www.supraphonline.cz/album/10...rackId=1335465

Jonty 08-08-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191408)

cheers, if only my machine would allow me to play them!

BMF 08-08-2015 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1191375)
Who Would You Die For reminds me of a song but I can't figure out which one! It's a new one, wasn't released before 2010 for sure I think.
.

Sounds like WAN (slowed down) to me.

Are you thinking BJ or another band?

Jonty 08-08-2015 08:29 PM

Finally got them working. Not at all what I expected after hearing the two released so far, both which I like a lot. Oh well, will just wait until the album comes out which is when?

mike1990 08-08-2015 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1191411)
Finally got them working. Not at all what I expected after hearing the two released so far, both which I like a lot. Oh well, will just wait until the album comes out which is when?

August 21st.

I'm kind of the opposite of everyone, outside of Who Would You Die For and Burning Bridges, I like them all. Then again, I'm not one of those people who get in a fit when something doesn't sound like the band, cause heck, I loved Chinese Democracy. Ill wait to hear the full songs, but so far, I feel like I may like 8 of the 10 tracks.

Becky 08-08-2015 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191393)
The Boys are back in town? She don't Know Me?

She Don't Know Me was recorded because it was required by the record company as part of the contract to get the record deal. He didn't want to record it and he didn't want to release it as a single.

The Boys Are Back in Town was NOT recorded for New Jersey. It was recorded for the Stairway to Heaven/Highway to Hell album which featured artists that took part in the Moscow Music Peace Festival. The whole POINT of the album was for these artists to record songs that had been originally recorded by artists who DIED from drug abuse.

Various Artists, Gorky Park, Skid Row, Scorpions,... Various Artists, Gorky Park, Skid Row, Scorpions,...

rolo_tomachi 08-08-2015 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1191413)
She Don't Know Me was recorded because it was required by the record company as part of the contract to get the record deal. He didn't want to record it and he didn't want to release it as a single.

The Boys Are Back in Town was NOT recorded for New Jersey. It was recorded for the Stairway to Heaven/Highway to Hell album which featured artists that took part in the Moscow Music Peace Festival. The whole POINT of the album was for these artists to record songs that had been originally recorded by artists who DIED from drug abuse.

Various Artists, Gorky Park, Skid Row, Scorpions, Ozzy Osbourne, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, Cinderella, Jason Bonham - Stairway to Heaven/Highway to Hell - Amazon.com Music

but does in New Jersey deluxe edition. Also in Crossroad sound & vision 2005.

Dave88 08-08-2015 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1191375)
Who Would You Die For reminds me of a song but I can't figure out which one! It's a new one, wasn't released before 2010 for sure I think.

Rolling in the Deep by Adele maybe?

bonjovi90 08-08-2015 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191415)
but does in New Jersey deluxe edition. Also in Crossroad sound & vision 2005.

Just accept that no one is sharing this point of view with you :D

ezearis 08-08-2015 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMF (Post 1191410)
Sounds like WAN (slowed down) to me.

Are you thinking BJ or another band?

Yes it reminds me of WAN but I'm thinking another song by another band.

Becky 08-08-2015 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191415)
but does in New Jersey deluxe edition. Also in Crossroad sound & vision 2005.

Deluxe Edition = Bonus track. Not a regular album.

You truly don't get it. You just DON'T GET IT and you show over and over again how you don't have a clue when it comes to JBJ.

Rdkopper 08-08-2015 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191415)
but does in New Jersey deluxe edition. Also in Crossroad sound & vision 2005.

Rolo, those are reissues and compilations... And even that was a fluke.

Burning Bridges is a major release and will be the band's 13th album. It's not going down as a compilation. Jon will not, and never has included another song out of his control ever since She Don't Know Me on any major release it's first time out.

He's still an effective writer and doesn't need to. If Beautiful Day blew up and became a major hit, the record company might make him, but it wasn't a hit so it's just going down as a compilation track add to a soundtrack.





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danfan 08-08-2015 10:21 PM

After hearing the first 4 songs, I was really excited for this record. From the snippets, it sounds dull as shit to me. But that's part for the course with the last few records. 50/50 split.

KSantaFe 08-09-2015 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191374)
Although he did not write, fits this collection of songs.

No it doesn't. Don't be daft, the rest of the songs mostly seem acoustic, or experimental.

Beautiful Day is a pure POP song.

Becky 08-09-2015 04:18 AM

http://www.examiner.com/article/bon-...ong-blind-love

Jayster 08-09-2015 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1191437)

Well, that was terrible.

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Rdkopper 08-09-2015 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayster (Post 1191438)
Well, that was terrible.

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What was?

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jon-flp 08-09-2015 08:52 AM

So...I'm completely shocked with these previews. But I won't judge them, not now. I'll wait to hear them in full.

Was just thinking one thing...as some of those songs were songs not used in the past albums and were finished this year...maybe some of them could had have already the vocals recorded before? I mean, because in some songs, Jon's voice sounds too different from what it is today. And it doesn't looks like autotune's fault.

PS.: WTF is Burning Bridges preview???? Not judging :eek:

kenobi_on_a_prayer 08-09-2015 09:19 AM

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but A Teardrop to the Sea and Blind Love (as well as We Don't Run and Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning) are on Spotify

SuperBrad 08-09-2015 10:40 AM

So we get the full Im your man on friday ;) thats exciting . Tho none of the new previews excite me at all , i pretty much now love all four of the songs we have so far . Burning bridges clip must be some sort of ****ing joke ..... Surely . My rating for We dont run had gone from 10/10 to 12/10 ... Love it so much

bonjoviczech 08-09-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KSantaFe (Post 1191425)
No it doesn't.
Beautiful Day is a pure POP song.

Beautiful Day is not song from (Jon) Bon Jovi. Song is from Gary Barlow, Eliot Kennedy. Jon only singing this song for CD Finding Neverland (musical).

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2015 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSantaFe (Post 1191425)
No it doesn't. Don't be daft, the rest of the songs mostly seem acoustic, or experimental.

Beautiful Day is a pure POP song.

So Beautiful Day is pure pop, ahah, maybe because Jon have not written it?

We Dont Know
Blind Love
Fingerprints

None of these songs are similar, not the same sound.



Life is beautiful is as pop as Beautiful Day. It could be included in the soundtrack of Finding Neverland.

Beautiful Day, I know that don't into the album because Jon did not write, but if he had written, would fit perfectly into this album. Because all the songs are very colorful and different, and have a conection with the sound, brand by John Shanks.

It is my opinion of course, and I don't talk more about it.

Jonty 08-09-2015 01:12 PM

So blind love sounds like it was recorded when Jon wrote the fighter and old habits etc. actually prefer this to both of them. Must say Tico's role in it is huge lol!

So do we actually know anything about when and who wrote any of the songs without going through every part of this thread?


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