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Savvi 08-09-2015 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1191455)
So do we actually know anything about when and who wrote any of the songs without going through every part of this thread?

We Dont Run - JBJ & Shanks
Sunday Morning - JBJ, Sambora, Shanks
A Teardrop to the Sea - JBJ & Billy Falcon
Blind Love - JBJ

No news on when they were written except We Dont Run is a new song.

eddie73 08-09-2015 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191408)

I dont know what to say about this, bit of a damp squid for me. WDR is the rocker on the album, same old same old im afraid in my opinion. What ever happened to our band, disappointing to say the least

crobb991 08-09-2015 03:52 PM

I know im probably gonna get a lot of stick for this but i love the burning bridges snippet...

Reminds me of Status Quos Aquostic album

rolo_tomachi 08-09-2015 05:28 PM

This album is like when I discovered the box set 2004. Very similar feelings.

Alphavictim 08-09-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1191462)
This album is like when I discovered the box set 2004. Very similar feelings.

You wondered why Beautiful Day wasn't on the box set?

Rdkopper 08-09-2015 06:14 PM

Teardrop is now my favorite song on BB. And might even be in my top ten favorite Jovi tunes... I hope it has longevity.

Jon actually has passion in his voice and delivers this one to perfection. It works with his current vocal tone.

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Becky 08-09-2015 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1191464)
You wondered why Beautiful Day wasn't on the box set?

I wish we had a LIKE button.

danfan 08-09-2015 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie73 (Post 1191459)
I dont know what to say about this, bit of a damp squid for me. WDR is the rocker on the album, same old same old im afraid in my opinion. What ever happened to our band, disappointing to say the least

With the exception of the 4 we already have, nothing stands out to me either. I can see why Jon has no passion for this.

My only hope with Richie leaving the band is that it would give Jon something to prove. If the next record is the same old same old, I'm done. It will prove just who the leak wink truly is.

Becky 08-09-2015 06:46 PM

I think Teardrop and Blind Love both showed that you can't judge the songs based on 20 second snippets. I didn't think much of either until I actually heard them and I think they're both great now. Blind Love is just stunning. I'm not even listening to the snippets of the others.

Rdkopper 08-09-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1191469)
I think Teardrop and Blind Love both showed that you can't judge the songs based on 20 second snippets. I didn't think much of either until I actually heard them and I think they're both great now. Blind Love is just stunning. I'm not even listening to the snippets of the others.

Exactly!!!

I'm convinced people will complain just to complain! These 4 songs are different and offer something that I haven't felt in a long time from a studio release. I'm not quite sure what that is but I look forward to listening to them still and each listen still sounds fresh. These songs feel like this should have been the next release after TD/DA. Add in IML and this would feel like more of the natural progression of this band.

Most of Burning Bridges is the album that was supposed to be between TC and WAN. I think Jon had a few directions to take outside the band and never quite got there. WDR and Teardrop are leftovers from the 2016 album. SNGMSM is a Circle outtake and the remaining bunch are probably leftovers from an attempted 3rd solo album and maybe another attempt at some soundtrack songs. Jon did state that he was going to do both.

Because of that, BB won't be perfect but it's still quite enjoyable and now I get way it's a 'Fan Album'.

Summer 08-09-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1191472)
WDR and Teardrop are leftovers from the 2016 album.

According to my intuition (which you should rely on ;)):
Teardrop is the key track on Burning Bridges. Yes, this is a new one. The depressive tone of a loser isn't coming out of nowhere, think about it. Misery has always been the best inspiration for artistic work. But the optimist that he is, he wants to close this book as fast as he can. "Burning Bridges", no big talking. I have come to the conclusion, only by the lyrics from Teardrop, that this album is in no way affiliated with Richie Sambora.

Haven't even heard Teardrop yet.

Blind Love has some interesting and sad lines ("bed cold as January"). It's a dangerous downer song if the situation fits. I remember the way Hard letting you go hit or should I say touched/solaced me once.

JackieBlue 08-09-2015 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Summer (Post 1191473)
According to my intuition (which you should rely on ;)):
Teardrop is the key track on Burning Bridges. Yes, this is a new one. The depressive tone8 of a loser isn't coming out of nowhere, think about it. Misery has always been the best inspiration for artistic work. But the optimist that he is, he wants to close this book as fast as he can. "Burning Bridges", no big talking. I have come to the conclusion, only by the lyrics from Teardrop, that this album is in no way affiliated with Richie Sambora.

Haven't even heard Teardrop yet.

Blind Love has some interesting and sad lines ("bed cold as January"). It's a dangerous downer song if the situation fits. I remember the way Hard letting you go hit or should I say touched/solaced me once.

Sorry, Summer, but my intuition says that your intuition is off the mark. ;)

ezearis 08-09-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1191464)
You wondered why Beautiful Day wasn't on the box set?

HAHAHAHA I ****ing lost it.

Captain_jovi 08-09-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1191472)
Most of Burning Bridges is the album that was supposed to be between TC and WAN. I think Jon had a few directions to take outside the band and never quite got there. WDR and Teardrop are leftovers from the 2016 album.

While all of that is based on probably theory, what are you basing Teardrop being a brand new song off of? Was something said?

Rdkopper 08-09-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1191476)
While all of that is based on probably theory, what are you basing Teardrop being a brand new song off of? Was something said?

Good question! I'm basing it all on the production and Jon's vocal... Even if it was written prior, I'll still classify it as new. Diamond Ring was new in '95 because that was the final production.

Jon states WDR was new and Teardrop fits right in with that. The leadoff songs on an album should also have some relevance to them as well.

Understanding the band, knowing their sound, knowing their directions, knowing their lead singer, knowing their guitar player, and knowing their producer is all part of it.

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Captain_jovi 08-09-2015 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1191478)
Good question! I'm basing it all on the production and Jon's vocal... Even if it was written prior, I'll still classify it as new. Diamond Ring was new in '95 because that was the final production.

Jon states WDR was new and Teardrop fits right in with that. The leadoff songs on an album should also have some relevance to them as well.

Understanding the band, knowing their sound, knowing their directions, knowing their lead singer, knowing their guitar player, and knowing their producer is all part of it.

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But end of the day it's theory. They all could have been written prior and could all be classified as new. Meh, I just think you sound way too sure of something and it's dangerous to convince everyone when we don't really know.

Tomorrow he could come right out and say it's new and then great. I see it as part of the solo songs that would have come between the albums, it's got such a non-band vibe to me.

Rdkopper 08-09-2015 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1191479)
But end of the day it's theory. They all could have been written prior and could all be classified as new. Meh, I just think you sound way too sure of something and it's dangerous to convince everyone when we don't really know.

Tomorrow he could come right out and say it's new and then great. I see it as part of the solo songs that would have come between the albums, it's got such a non-band vibe to me.

100% of my theory is speculation. Jon never admitted to the fact that these were leftovers from an attempted solo album either.

Unfortunately, this album is being kept under hush for some odd reason and it's our job to figure it all out collectively.

How much times has to go by for a song to be considered 'new'? Some bands take years to work on songs so if Jon wrote some songs in '13 and are now being completed two years later, why aren't they 'new' anymore? Or are they?

BTY, I was NEVER specific to the writing. I was saying the song was a possible attempt to be included on the 2016 release.

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Summer 08-09-2015 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1191480)
... and it's our job to figure it all out collectively.

I like the idea of a "collective brain".

Captain_jovi 08-09-2015 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1191480)
100% of my theory is speculation. Jon never admitted to the fact that these were leftovers from an attempted solo album either.

Unfortunately, this album is being kept under hush for some odd reason and it's our job to figure it all out collectively.

How much times has to go by for a song to be considered 'new'? Some bands take years to work on songs so if Jon wrote some songs in '13 and are now being completed two years later, why aren't they 'new' anymore? Or are they?

BTY, I was NEVER specific to the writing. I was saying the song was a possible attempt to be included on the 2016 release.

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And the only way to figure it out is with actual information confirmed by a source. "100% of my theory is speculation. Jon never admitted to the fact that these were leftovers from an attempted solo album either." I agree, which is why I'm not saying "These are songs from a proposed solo album" I'm saying I wouldn't be shocked to learn that.

I'm not trying to harass you for the way you worded it, you just made it sound like Tears is 100 percent a new song alongside We Don't Run and I was merely following up to see if you had heard anything to know that.

DevilsSon 08-10-2015 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by eddie73 (Post 1191459)
I dont know what to say about this, bit of a damp squid for me. WDR is the rocker on the album, same old same old im afraid in my opinion. What ever happened to our band, disappointing to say the least

2 I like!
2 that I might like!
The rest is utter junk!

crashed 08-10-2015 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Summer (Post 1191481)
I like the idea of a "collective brain".

If we have a collective brain, it's completely schizophrenic :)

Javier 08-10-2015 03:19 AM

While I wouldn't go as far as to say that I'm 100% sure Teardrops is a new one that was written while working on the upcoming 2016 album I'd say it's one of the most probable of it. We Don't Run is a new one, the fact that they both share a similar "whoa ohh oh" arrangement is reminiscent of "Growing up the hard way" and "Judgement Day" in the way they tried the same things with different songs around the same time period to see if it stuck. And if it sounds "unlike" any Bon Jovi sound just remember that the 2016 album is supposed to have a brand new sound and begin a whole different chapter that we have yet to hear....

bjcrazycpa 08-10-2015 03:23 AM

I really kind of hope Teardrop is a new song because I really really like it a lot. I'm not listening to the rest of the snippets. I want to hear the songs in their entirety before I get myself worked up over them. :)

KSantaFe 08-10-2015 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1191465)
Teardrop is now my favorite song on BB. And might even be in my top ten favorite Jovi tunes... I hope it has longevity.

Jon actually has passion in his voice and delivers this one to perfection. It works with his current vocal tone.

I agree wholeheartedly. The whole vibe of it is so fresh and I consider it more exciting than WDR. I feel like a lot of fans will point out the weaknesses of new Jovi albums and say that it's the 'same old shit', but fail to recognise when they try something new. For example, I feel that Room At The End Of The World was a standout on a fairly rubbish album - it was different, it felt sincere and had a moody tone.

A true 'diamond in the rough' in my view.

Thankfully, this album seems to be filled with 'different', and that's what's got me all excited. :)

mike1990 08-10-2015 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1191487)
I really kind of hope Teardrop is a new song because I really really like it a lot. I'm not listening to the rest of the snippets. I want to hear the songs in their entirety before I get myself worked up over them. :)

I'm the opposite. I've been listening to the samples over and over. I absolutely love the samples, other than maybe one or two, but I won't judge the songs based on that. I didn't like Teardrop or Blind Love's samples but I love the full songs.

KSantaFe 08-10-2015 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon (Post 1191484)
2 I like!
2 that I might like!
The rest is utter junk!

I think you mean "The rest might be utter junk!"

Is Teardrop one you like?

steel_horse75 08-10-2015 09:50 AM

I'd love anew album sounding like teardrop and something to believe in type songs. But not blind love longs. They are like the fighter and Old habits in that they bore me.

SmirkSteve 08-10-2015 10:57 AM

I've not listened to any of it yet - always like to hear it first when I get the CD and listen in full.

In the UK, where are people ordering the CD from? I have Amazon Prime so usually like to order from Amazon, but they have it listed at £16.42, which seems awfully expensive. Are there any special edition versions available from anywhere?

steel_horse75 08-10-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SmirkSteve (Post 1191503)
I've not listened to any of it yet - always like to hear it first when I get the CD and listen in full.

In the UK, where are people ordering the CD from? I have Amazon Prime so usually like to order from Amazon, but they have it listed at £16.42, which seems awfully expensive. Are there any special edition versions available from anywhere?

for extra £9 you can do what ive done and ordered Japense version to get bonus track.

The album work out to be £12.50ish but delivery is about £11

WILDJOVIMAN 08-10-2015 11:14 AM

30 sec snippet of "Who Would You Die For" - sounds fresh and new to my ears

WILDJOVIMAN 08-10-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1191500)
I'd love anew album sounding like teardrop and something to believe in type songs. But not blind love longs. They are like the fighter and Old habits in that they bore me.

Blind Love Sound wonderful

newikov 08-10-2015 11:26 AM

Ok .. some new songs are on the ASCAP

I'm Your Man (JBJ, Shanks)

Take Back The Night (JBJ, Shanks)

We All Fall Down (JBJ, Shanks)

steel_horse75 08-10-2015 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WILDJOVIMAN (Post 1191506)
Blind Love Sound wonderful

Not to my ears :D

rolo_tomachi 08-10-2015 12:06 PM

I hope that Take Back The Night be a rocker. That would balance a bit the track list. In any case, I hope it's a good song.


I like Burning Bridges preview song.

Demonbred 08-10-2015 02:21 PM

Just listened to snippets again and these songs may be growing on me after the initial shock fingerprints especially but im never going to like the song Burning Bridges. Ill give Im Your Man a chance on Friday but it sounds like the Bon Jovi I don't like

ezearis 08-10-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1191500)
I'd love anew album sounding like teardrop and something to believe in type songs. But not blind love longs. They are like the fighter and Old habits in that they bore me.

Blind Love has nothing to do with The Fighter. Have you even listened to the song?

steel_horse75 08-10-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1191515)
Blind Love has nothing to do with The Fighter. Have you even listened to the song?

of course. I just dont like slow plodding go nowhere songs so therefore to me they are boring

ezearis 08-10-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by newikov (Post 1191507)
Ok .. some new songs are on the ASCAP

I'm Your Man (JBJ, Shanks)

Take Back The Night (JBJ, Shanks)

We All Fall Down (JBJ, Shanks)

Thanks.

I'm pretty sure that all the JBJ/Shanks songs are new, considering Shanks' tweets.

So far we have:

JBJ: 6/6
Shanks: 5/6
RS: 1/6
Falcon: 1/6.

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Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1191455)
So do we actually know anything about when and who wrote any of the songs without going through every part of this thread?

I'm starting to wonder why I even bother to update the first post.

steel_horse75 08-10-2015 03:59 PM

Based on the 30 second clips (2nd time hearing) this are my first impression ratings. Hopefully they will change but BB sounds terrible (from what i've heard)

We all fall down 6.5/10
Who Would you die for 4/10
Fingerprints 5/10
Life Is Beautiful 6.5/10
Im Your Man 6.5/10
Burning Bridges 2/10

Bonus – Take Back The Night - unheard

JackieBlue 08-10-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1191518)
Thanks, will update the main post.

I'm pretty sure that all the JBJ/Shanks songs are new, considering Shanks' tweets.

Well, call me crazy, but I think it's probably safe to assume that Burning Bridges is new, too; although I kinda doubt that it was written for the 2016 album. :)


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