Well Rob Thomas is at #14 and he HAS a single on the radio so....

He does? We are in such a different world now... Rock just doesn't matter anymore. Well I'll restate that... Rock is now modern country. Jon had the right idea with Lost Highway. Just 8 years too early.

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Yes he does the 2nd track on the cd called "Trust you".

Could someone please translate what Jon says in German on Burning Bridges?

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Auf Wiedersehen = Goodbye (see you again)

Guten Abend = Good Evening

It doesn't sound like he's saying either one of those words. I hear a 'nubin' in there

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Whoever stated Who Would You Die For is Depeche Mode - that's exactly it. Something on the album "Exciter", maybe Dream on.

These are the words, he just pronounces them completely wrong :D

We shorten it to Gut'n Abn'd ... the part 'utinabnd' is your 'nubin.

You/we are damned crazy.

Been a while but Dam this Album has a few gems on it . But why use the same Whoa ohh ohh's in so many tracks A teardrop & Life is beautiful and then a sped up version on We dont Run...Other than that I must admit im liking it alot more than WAN...Shanks did a great job here

Same here. This is actually good. It does sound like it's the 5th cd of the box set... But theres plenty of great tracks. Actually, I like 5 of them. Teardrop and Fingerprints seem to stand out most...

Of course, you can tell that Richie is missing, both on the lead guitar but even more on the backing vocals. And there's not a single attempt to do a real rocker on it. Still - miles better than ever expected.


They should stick with doing fan albums.

Said it in the past -They are not an album band anymore .They should just put out Ep's with 4 or 5 tracks .

In the Italian iTunes Burning Bridges is doing very well, actually it is #7 in the general rank, and #1 in the rock chart!

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as of 6:56pm et time Bon Jovi is #11 on the Album chart on iTunes. (Rob Thomas is at #12.)

Seriously, I haven't posted here in so long.

I'm absolutely in love with this album. Yes I originally had lower expectations but I'm enjoying so much. Fingerprints, burning bridges are the current top two then there's who would you die for...oh my. That's such a sexy one - does anyone else think it sounds rather James Bond-esqu?

I listened to this all the way through earlier in the day. Then I listened with dinner and a few drinks - figuring that the drinks would help.

There are a couple of tracks that aren't bad (which doesn't mean that they are good) but I hate the production all the way through.

Then I put These days on - which is also quieter with no so many rockers on it. OMFG - what a difference. Completely different production - the background is not stomping all over the lead singer.

Big sigh - this is not bad - but it's not great either.

Yeah maybe. Look. Price right now in some stores: 42-49 USD. Japanese edition: 92 USD.

Hope this country gets ****ing burned into ashes.

Not bad for a collection of B-sides. If anything, this points to the fact that a fresh Jon Bon Jovi/John Shanks project has the potential to be very good.

i salute you

I think I really like 2 songs of the album and that's it. I really like Blind Love, followed by Saturday Night (which is just another Its My Life, Born To Follow etc etc). All the other songs are just too safe - well scratch that - too much wasted potential in my opinion. And I know Saturday Night might be the safest song on the album but I find myself liking that one despite being a song that we have heard a dozen times before.

As Kathleen said, the production is horrible. There's no space between the layers, the drums are so flat that you cannot call it drums anymore and there's just no depth in the sound. 'We Don't Run' is a pain to listen to. Everything is loud. This whole album doesn't breathe and there are just so many songs on it where you can hear Jon heavily depend on auto-tune more then he ever needed.
To conclude I even dare to say this: I even like WaN more then this one!

Some songs had potential but the production as well as the other things mentioned above completely ruin it for me. Back to the warm, deep, emotional sound of These Days.

I salute you,
TS

It's your opinion and it's absolutely ok!
But to me it sounds funny that you like the Weekend Song, even compare it to IML and Born To Follow and criticise the other songs for being too safe.
If there's one song on that album that's absolutely safe, it's the Weekend Song :D
It is what it is: A purely matter of taste ;)

Oh you are totally right. I shouldve mentioned that in my reply. It is a safe song yet I find myself liking it.
It's a feeling I been having for the last couple of albums though that it's more wasted potential then actual good songs.

I edited my reply :-)

I salute you,
TS

Some guys here will never understand that times have changed and you'll never get another These Days. If you can't be happy with anything else than a These Days version 2, why are you even still concerned with Bon Jovi?

You know, nobody has to like that album and everyone can say whether he or she likes something or not, but this never ending These Days chitchat really is annoying.

And finally, the ultimate reason to dislike something seems to be "production". Sometimes I wonder if half of the people talking about this "awful Shanks production" even know anything about producing an album...

I guess by saying this you do know something about producing? Then tell me why they continue with the loudness, the constant use of effects and stuff, just to covers Jon horrible singing? Wether you like this album or not, it's too fake on many layers. It's not real enough, not pure enough and I know that this has been the case for the albums of late so I need the songs to compensate for it. The last album for me that had quite some good songs, and again a poor production, was The Circle.

Why I am still concerned with Bon Jovi? Because I know how I liked them in the past, because I was there in Milan last tour when Jon sang like a youngster during the 70 minute encore and blew everyone away.
I liked Crush, I did not like Bounce, I liked HAND, I did not like Lost Highway and I liked The Circle a lot. So it's up and down for me with every album. With WaN being the album it is I hoped this would be something good and to me it isn't.

I am a massive Springsteen-fan but that doesn't make me like every album he made. It's been up and down with Springsteen for me as well for the last years. I really liked Magic, didn't like Working On A Dream, liked Wrecking Ball, didn't like High Hopes that much etc..

If you come to this board and don't like your favorite band being critisized do not come here. It's a public board to ventilate opinions and mine just isn't that positive about this album.

I salute you,
TS

I tried to make it clear that everyone can criticize the band and you might realise that I didn't want to offend you personally...

I'm just a little bit depressed that everything is compared to These Days somehow.

I think Jon's voice is one reason. The other reason is that they want to sound fresh and up-to-date and think that's the way to accomplish this goal.

Sure, we all would love a new Slippery, a new New Jersey or a new These Days...but that's not the sound of today's mainstream. So even if they'd go for it I'm sure they wouldn't get more airplay than with this stuff.

I am not offended Jack. But I am longer on this board and I seen more persons not liking the way others talk about Jovi on here. Don't worry, it takes more to offend me personally.
I know it is unfair to compare it with an album like These Days but the fans of the old days just cannot get the thought out of their head saying 'How cool would it be if we would get an album like These Days just one more time'.

And to Faceman, that's just the thing. How do you want to be remembered? The real fans don't need Bon Jovi to be on air, they want a quality album. With new generations of youth coming up the thing about being a diehard-fan or being one who goes to multiple concerts is dying out. It's a changing thing and that is a pity in my opinion.
Do you know what songs we get to hear if radiostations here decide to play them? The old ones. The Bed of Roses, the Keep The Faith.

And are you happy now? While typing this reply 'Who Would You Die For' came on during my iTunes-shuffle. Got to change the music! ;)

I salute you,
TS

Fair enough.

If there was a 2nd These Days instead of Crush e.g., I don't know if I would have ever become a Bon Jovi fan, I just don't know and I don't really want to imagine that I would have never discovered all their music and what would have happened to me without it...

This band gave me a lot also with the newer releases not just the great old hits and albums. And I know other people, much younger than I am, who became addicted by the band because of Lost Highway or What About Now and isn't that a nice thing? Nobody takes away New Jersey or These Days even when they release something like What About Now (I liked it actually)...

And I think that these fans aren't worth less just because they are younger or haven't done as many posts as other people here or just because they like the newer albums as well...

They aren't worth less. A fan is a fan.
One on hand it's a pity they became a fan with Jovi making lower-quality-songs like these. On the other hand they might not have become a fan if Jovi was still making songs like These Days.
Another confession from me is that I really like HAND. It's a big pop-album and also has the loudness-production but the overall flow on that album is just so good that it 'works' as an album, as a whole.

I salute you,
TS

p.s.
Gave Fingerprints another chance so now I am on 4 songs that I like but that's it. 4 or 5 songs tops is what is has been for me for the last couple of albums.

To be honest, I heard some song from these days last night: Hey God, These Days, My Guitar Lies Bleeding In My Arms, (It's Hard) Letting You Go and Something To Believe In and I got a little bit depressed because that's my favourite album by this band and: 1) we're never getting something like that again; 2) Jon will never ever sing like that.

Still, I can't help to be happy with this release. Yes, checked up my last.fm and since this album was released I've been mainly playing the same 5 songs of it, and that's a 50% of songs... but I'm happy because I had lost all hope that a song like Fingerprints would ever be released. Or that Jon would ever deliver a vocal performance like the one of Who Would You Die For (not a fan of the song btw). Or that I would have goosebumps because of a song like Blind Love.

I didn't expected this to be a solid record that, as Thunderstrucker says, Have A Nice Day is, as this is what it is: some songs recorded in a few days to commit contractual obligations. So I focused on the songs, and I like some of them. Now I'm excited about the new album, the real new album, and I hope that the band will take a good direction on it.

And about the "everyone uses the production as an excuse to hate", it's not an excuse, Bon Jovi's last albums are painful to hear because of the crappy production: What About Now is noise + noise + compressed instruments + noise + Jon + autotune + some other noise. There's no depth in sound. And somebody can't hear what I'm saying he should really go to check his ears because something's not working right there. But if I compare this record to that one, it's a step forward in the production, it sounds better overall, that's why I gave some kudos to Shanks on Twitter. Yes, some songs are ruined by the production, or doesn't achieve their full potential (ATTTS, for example), but others like Fingerprints are a 180° turnaround from What About Now and I like that.

That been said, I'd like them to work with another producer on the 2016 record. They've been working with Shanks since 2004, it's 2015 and we know he'll be on the 2016 album, that's 12 years. Longer than Alec stayed on the band (1994-1983= 11), to put it in numbers.

That was me. While I don't know much of Depeche Mode (or everything, because I know the one song they have ;-)), it just gave me that feel soundwise. Could you find out which song it is?

That sounds a little bit arrogant to me, just thinking loud...

Tastes are different, aren't they? It would be boring if they weren't, actually...

It's not arrogance. It's a fact. You can analyse the audio and literally see the loudness.

Still, you can like it. I didn't say that you couldn't, I just said that the loudness war is a real thing as other posters stated.

I'm loving this statement :D

Anyway, I respect your opinion, but don't share it, and there's no use in discussing this any further...

Whether the production is very compressed or not is not a matter of taste.

Maybe not whether it is compressed, but definitely whether you call it "crappy" or "noise" or not. No reason for twisting my words, actually...

Wow! Good stuff in here. Positive and negative. Now that I'm starting to digest this album a little, my opinion is changing ever so slightly too. It's not as solid as I initially thought but still a very good album none the less.

I'm very simple in the way I judge songs. 1, I look to see if a song is RADIO friendly with catchy hooks. 2, I look for the ARTISTIC song that's got some mood in it. And 3, I look for a little of both...

There are 7 songs on this album that I like a lot and contain the above. The remaining 6 are just okay.

1. Teardrop - Artistic -10
2. We Don't Run - Radio - 9
3. Blind Love - Both - 8
4. Burning Bridges - Radio - 8
5. SN/SM - Radio - 8
6. Fingerprints - Artistic - 8
7. Who Would You Die For - Both - 8
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Although this next round of songs are more or less fillers, they are also growing on me more and more with each listen and they are somewhat enjoyable but not memorable either... They don't really fit into either category between Radio and/or Artistic...
(Anything I rate above a 5 is good. I mean I rated 'Amen' a 4)

8. We All Fall Down - 6
9. Life Is Beautiful - 5.5
10. Take Back The Night - 5
11. I'm Your Man - 5

This averages to an overall album rating of a 7.3 out of 10 and I'd say that's pretty accurate for now.

I heard the entire album twice. Here's my current rating.

Teardrop --- 7
We Do not Run --- 6
Sunday Morning --- 7
We All Fall Down --- 3
Blind Love --- 4
Who Would You Die For --- 7
Fingerprints --- 7
Life is Beautiful --- 5
I'm Your Man --- 6
Burning Bridges --- 5
Take Back The Night --- 5

Rating of the full album --- 6

Not bad, for a record of rarities. Better than WAN.

First impressions +iTunes U.S. Album Charts
 

I'm still soaking in the entire album which for me includes the "Take Back the Night" via Walmart here in the states. I'm personally extremely impressed with what I've been able to gather after a few listens all the way through the 11 tracks. Really the only track that I'm not feeling is "We All Fall Down." The rest of the album is rock solid with some truly magical moments. "A Teardrop To the Sea," "We Don't Run," "Who Would You Die For," & "Fingerprints" are the standouts at the moment while "Life is Beautiful" & "Take Back the Night" are sneaky good. I'm going to refrain from a full review until I have more time to let this album breathe.
I am baffled by some of the extreme disgust/dissapointment for this release. I'm digging the direction this album may be indicating the band is headed. I'm into a lot of Indie pop/rock music and this feels more modern and hip than Bon Jovi has sounded to me in the last 20 years. It's like JBJ/Shanks have been influenced by some of this type of music. I try to remember that rock music has many shades/colors. Don't get locked into one type of sound.

Update: ITunes U.S. Album chart: Burning Bridges #9.
*it's been in the top 10 since early last night. Not to shabby for little to no promotion. Not one to care much for sales yet I think it would be extra sweet to witness it somehow catch fire within the charts and surprise some of those who have already seemed to push it aside.

The "fan album" is doing pretty well in iTunes in some countries :)

Austria 1
Germany 2
Finland 3
UK 4
Portugal 4
Italy 5
Australia 5
Russia 6
Japan 6
Netherlands 12
New Zealand 12
Greece 12
Canada 23
Belgium (French part) 30
France 30
Argentine 38