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Rdkopper 08-23-2015 06:53 PM

I think this is a good thing. The record company might be driving a lot of these over produced pop songs and now Jon might have some more artistic freedom. In addition, hopefully better promotion.

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Jonty 08-23-2015 09:12 PM

anyone order the album through the old play.com and received it yet?

Jonty 08-23-2015 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseyGiant (Post 1192925)
Anyone else get all the feels when he speaks about Richie

in what way?

Summer 08-23-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1192882)
Five things we learned from chatting with Jon Bon Jovi in Vancouver

Link includes video of interview with Jon:
http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/st...medium=twitter

''4. Bon Jovi’s new album Burning Bridges is about the end of an era.

Burning Bridges, released Friday, is admittedly about the end of Bon Jovi’s relationship with longtime label Mercury Records. The album features only one song co-written with former guitarist Richie Sambora (Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning). Sambora is no longer a member of the band and will not re-join for forthcoming band tours, Bon Jovi told the media Saturday.

Bon Jovi also admitted Burning Bridges is just a stepping stone to another band album coming out in 2016.

“I had a fulfilment to the label and we were going off to Southeast Asia. So I thought, ‘This is great.’ It’s songs I like but aren’t my next album. So these are good songs that wouldn’t have made the record and a couple that are ending the era. A Teardrop To The Sea is the serious lyrical content of ‘you broke my heart,’ and Burning Bridges is just what it says it is.”

In this interview Jon says Teardrop is just like the title track Burning Bridges about "you broke my heart" - the label.

What a brave journalist to answer the question what the song Burning Bridges is about :o

It's funny because he didn't want to give interviews first but now, as noone got the message really, he started to explain.
The label news is now starting to hit the masses.

liljovi93 08-23-2015 10:45 PM

I think in future I'm going to stay away from songs for future releases.

Listening to this album again and I absolutely love the first three songs but didn't appreciate them as 'new' when I listened to them when I put the album on. I've probably listened to them three about 100 times altogether.

Listened to 'I'm Your Man' about ten times and 'Blind Love' once before the album. So I had 5 songs that were 'new' and even on them I heard almost half of them.

Kind of ruined the whole process for me and I'm usually quite good at staying away from stuff.

Rdkopper 08-23-2015 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1193013)
I think in future I'm going to stay away from songs for future releases.

Listening to this album again and I absolutely love the first three songs but didn't appreciate them as 'new' when I listened to them when I put the album on. I've probably listened to them three about 100 times altogether.

Listened to 'I'm Your Man' about ten times and 'Blind Love' once before the album. So I had 5 songs that were 'new' and even on them I heard almost half of them.

Kind of ruined the whole process for me and I'm usually quite good at staying away from stuff.

I was thinking the same thing. The 5 new songs that were released prior, don't seem new to me anymore. Neither do a couple others due to my brilliant idea to do snippet extentions. There are now 4 songs out of the 11 that actually feel new and the rest are already old news.

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steel_horse75 08-23-2015 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1193013)
I think in future I'm going to stay away from songs for future releases.

Listening to this album again and I absolutely love the first three songs but didn't appreciate them as 'new' when I listened to them when I put the album on. I've probably listened to them three about 100 times altogether.

Listened to 'I'm Your Man' about ten times and 'Blind Love' once before the album. So I had 5 songs that were 'new' and even on them I heard almost half of them.

Kind of ruined the whole process for me and I'm usually quite good at staying away from stuff.

agree. the album seems old before ive even got hard copy. for 2016 album im not going to listen to previews or download songs released in advance

rolo_tomachi 08-23-2015 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1193019)
agree. the album seems old before ive even got hard copy. for 2016 album im not going to listen to previews or download songs released in advance


I think we will not be able to avoid it.

SmirkSteve 08-24-2015 12:58 AM

It's a much better experience to not listen to previews as I always do. In fact I still haven't heard the new album yet thanks to the Rakuten seller I ordered from promising to get it to people by day of release, and then not.

I saw it on Spotify but didn't give in to temptation. CD in the stereo will be my first listen, hopefully tomorrow night!

ezearis 08-24-2015 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SmirkSteve (Post 1193033)
It's a much better experience to not listen to previews as I always do. In fact I still haven't heard the new album yet thanks to the Rakuten seller I ordered from promising to get it to people by day of release, and then not.

I saw it on Spotify but didn't give in to temptation. CD in the stereo will be my first listen, hopefully tomorrow night!

I've decided myself that I won't listen any previews of the next album. Only songs that are released as singles.

I can't believe that, for some days, I led a 1:30 minutes snippet let me think that Fingerprints was a shitty song. How could I be so wrong.

liljovi93 08-24-2015 01:46 AM

I've gave the album a couple of listens in full now.

I'd say I'm enjoying it more than I did on first listen. Some of the songs I didn't care for much I'm really enjoying. I think 'We All Fall Down' is good but the production lets it down, in my opinion. Not really one to go on about production much but I find it hard to understand what Jon is saying when it picks up a little bit because noise is happening over the vocals. Apart from that, I quite like the song.

Really liking 'Life Is Beautiful', though. When I first heard it, I thought it was an okay song. Nothing great. It's a really nice song, though. Can't really imagine what album it'd fit on but it's a nice song.

I absolutely hated 'Blind Love' on first listen. Worst song I'd heard by the band in a long time at first listen but when I got the album and gave it another listen, I was surprised at how much better I found it. I still don't think it's great by any means and certainly not the best ballad the band have done, but the lyrics are really nice and the way Jon sings it is something I quite like too.

'Fingerprints' I do enjoy listening too but I still can't see the fuss over it. I think the solo is decent but I honestly don't think that's anything spectacular. Just longer than anything Richie has done in a while which doesn't mean much. It could be song that really grows on me with time, I guess. I enjoy it, though.

Still think it's a good album after a couple of days of listening which isn't what I thought about 'What About Now' all that much. First listen I enjoyed because it was new music but then when I actually listened to that album a few times, I realized just how weak it was.

8/10 is probably my overall score for the album, still. I do really regret listening to the first three songs so much before the album came out, though. I think I'd be very impressed with this album if I hadn't.

Captmorgs 08-24-2015 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1193038)
I think 'We All Fall Down' is good but the production lets it down, in my opinion. Not really one to go on about production much but I find it hard to understand what Jon is saying when it picks up a little bit because noise is happening over the vocals. Apart from that, I quite like the song.

Really liking 'Life Is Beautiful', though. When I first heard it, I thought it was an okay song. Nothing great. It's a really nice song, though. Can't really imagine what album it'd fit on but it's a nice song.

I absolutely hated 'Blind Love' on first listen. Worst song I'd heard by the band in a long time at first listen but when I got the album and gave it another listen, I was surprised at how much better I found it. I still don't think it's great by any means and certainly not the best ballad the band have done, but the lyrics are really nice and the way Jon sings it is something I quite like too.

Totally agree with these comments. We All Fall Down and Life is Beautiful are songs I keep going back to listen to. And I don't know if a song has ever grown on me as much as Blind Love has already. Really like this song.

Can someone please point me to the thread or page with the songwriting credits? Thanks!

GabrielC 08-24-2015 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1193040)
Totally agree with these comments. We All Fall Down and Life is Beautiful are songs I keep going back to listen to. And I don't know if a song has ever grown on me as much as Blind Love has already. Really like this song.

Can someone please point me to the thread or page with the songwriting credits? Thanks!

The first page of this thread :)

Captmorgs 08-24-2015 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1193045)
The first page of this thread :)

Of course! Thanks.

InAFormerLife 08-24-2015 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1193021)
I think we will not be able to avoid it.

Yes, this. I wish I could resist but I doubt I'll be able to.

rocknation 08-24-2015 04:25 AM

It was very wise of Jon to lower our expectations: the songs are brutally outdated, the production values negligible, the whoah-whoah choruses juvenile, the keyboards missing in action, the guitar work, in the immortal words of Dorothy Parker, "runs the gamut from A to B." But I would not be insulted if I were to hear Who Would You Die For again -- with a little polish (especially from Richie), I think it's the only song that shouldn't have ended up on the editing room floor. So this is Jon's idea of a special gift to Bon Jovi fans!

TheseDaysEra 08-24-2015 05:18 AM

This album makes 'perfect sense'. That is, it's a bunch of leftovers put together simply to comply with the contractual obligations they had with Mercury. A lot of bands do that.

TheseDaysEra 08-24-2015 05:19 AM

Btw, does anyone knows the era of each of the album's songs ? Some are clearly older than 2009...

Captain_jovi 08-24-2015 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1193049)
It was very wise of Jon to lower our expectations: the songs are brutally outdated, the production values negligible, the whoah-whoah choruses juvenile, the keyboards missing in action, the guitar work, in the immortal words of Dorothy Parker, "runs the gamut from A to B." But I would not be insulted if I were to hear Who Would You Die For again -- with a little polish (especially from Richie), I think it's the only song that shouldn't have ended up on the editing room floor. So this is Jon's idea of a special gift to Bon Jovi fans!

The board's reaction to the album has been pretty positive, I don't think it's being looked at as harshly are you are.

Captain_jovi 08-24-2015 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheseDaysEra (Post 1193051)
Btw, does anyone knows the era of each of the album's songs ? Some are clearly older than 2009...

Nope, it's all fan theories.

Javier 08-24-2015 05:38 AM

Other than Jon saying We Don't Run is new and the title track being obviously recent the rest is theories. I put my money on Teardrop to the sea being newly written but I obviously can't prove that, just the feeling I get the way Jon talked about it on the interview. I hope it's new anyhow....

ezearis 08-24-2015 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1193052)
The board's reaction to the album has been pretty positive, I don't think it's being looked at as harshly are you are.

Not only here, in a lot of Facebook Groups the reactions are pretty good. It's been a long time since I saw so many people happy with a new Bon Jovi record.

jovifan93 08-24-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1193054)
Other than Jon saying We Don't Run is new and the title track being obviously recent the rest is theories. I put my money on Teardrop to the sea being newly written but I obviously can't prove that, just the feeling I get the way Jon talked about it on the interview. I hope it's new anyhow....

It must be, a) because of what you said, and b) because Jon said he had to a lot to write off his chest and that this song is about being heart broken, which to me is about the football team, the label, or Richie.

And c) because of the (almost) identical "whoah-ohs", which would also make Life Is Beautiful either a new song or one where this part has been added to.

I honestly think most, if not all, are new, except Saturday Night/Sunday Morning. Maybe he just had to include one that Richie wrote and chose that one.

steel_horse75 08-24-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1193034)
I've decided myself that I won't listen any previews of the next album. Only songs that are released as singles.

I can't believe that, for some days, I led a 1:30 minutes snippet let me think that Fingerprints was a shitty song. How could I be so wrong.

Imo your first impressions are correct. I hate it.

steel_horse75 08-24-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheseDaysEra (Post 1193050)
This album makes 'perfect sense'. That is, it's a bunch of leftovers put together simply to comply with the contractual obligations they had with Mercury. A lot of bands do that.

someone summed it up here perfectly when they said it should be seen as disc 5 of the 100m boxset.

Starts of well with the first 3, real borefest in the middle and picks up again.
Still think the song bb would work better as a hidden song.

Crossjack 08-24-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1193064)
Still think the song bb would work better as a hidden song.

I'm glad it's not a hidden track. Could have left a mark that they wanted to hide it from the record company. And don't forget that it is the title track...

Or why do you think it would work better as a hidden song?

steel_horse75 08-24-2015 12:46 PM

Because of its style. It's short so would work well as hidden track.

steel_horse75 08-24-2015 01:52 PM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...94f742355c.jpg

From Japan. Was only sent Thursday!

steel_horse75 08-24-2015 01:56 PM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...2e983869d0.jpg

Lyric booklet!!

Captain Hook 08-24-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1193069)

That's great! :D I'm still waiting. :popcorn:

ezearis 08-24-2015 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1193069)

Awesome! Could you transcribe the lyrics for the lyrics thread?

steel_horse75 08-24-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1193072)
Awesome! Could you transcribe the lyrics for the lyrics thread?


Done. Posted pics

liljovi93 08-24-2015 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1193077)
Done. Posted pics

Very much appreciated. Thank you!

steel_horse75 08-24-2015 02:55 PM

No worries

Dicanio 08-24-2015 04:03 PM

Got my Japanese edition from CD Japan this morning too. Nice to have the lyric book. Steelhorse has beaten me to posting up the lyrics. Good work fella :)

ezearis 08-24-2015 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1193077)
Done. Posted pics

Thank you so much!

Grantos1 08-24-2015 04:30 PM

Either the effort, time constraints or lack of interest from Jon as he's writing the new album has obviously effected how this album sounds.

I'm wondering if Shanks was given more input on the sound of the recording and producing? There's parts of the album that do not sound like the last few albums and some production sounds modern pop / rock sounding to me. There's plenty of people on here that will hate that, but it's a reason this sounds better than What About Now IMO.

And I agree with the person who said they should try a different producer that would push Jon, there's plenty out there with fresh ideas.

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Johny 08-24-2015 10:10 PM

I don't listen to snippets anymore because they ruin it for me. Sometimes you hear the best of the song and the rest is disappointing etc. I probably shouldn't listen to leaked/released tracks either because it affects I perceive the album when I listen to it in full. It was a huge letdown for me this time. Some of the early songs really pumped my expectations. Fortunately, even We Don't Run and the Weekend song had to grow on me, some of the six later songs are growing on me too.
I'm not into wriring reviews but I have some thoughts that occured to me while listening to the album. It might be obvious coming from me cause I'm a Richie's fan, I don't like the guitars in general. I can't find the right word for it in English, in my language translated to English it would be 'epicene'. In some songs I feel it's not even there, I miss some signature in playing thoughout the album. It's logical, that happens when you don't have a guitar player in a band - things like that happen on solo artists' albums. That leads to my next thought later. Kudos to Shanks for what he delivered in Teardrop and Fingerprints and I really like WDR solo. On contrary, that's quite refreshing.
My next thought is that the album just doesn't feel like a band album. I was happy for Blind Love being basically a piano song which I took as a sign David had more space. However, that was it. Tico has a few interesting hits in Who Would You Die For which I doubt if he played it or it was programmed. It just feels like a Jon's solo record. For the strange poppier production on some songs, no signature and more prominent guitar etc. The only song I still have feeling sounds like Bon Jovi in a way I see them is A Teardrop To The Sea. And yeah, of course the Weekend song is what Bon Jovi has been (or was) for the last 10 years.
I like the diversity of the album. Even in a 11 song album, there are some fillers for me but I can tell the difference between the songs. Maybe it is because it's put together from song with different background and history. I still can't decide if it is all new (what Shanks said) or mixed (what Jon said).
I don't like that there are only a few uptempto songs. WDR is great, the Weekend song and I'm Your Man which I considered as the weakest from the early songs but now is in the better half of the album. The rest is something like slower or faster midtempo songs. Plus the production and especially effects on Jon's vocals on some songs are really horrible. It's probably to hide his vocals abilities. Or not, I love Teardrop where he sounds natural.
I like We Don't Run. Well I learned to like it, it rocks (though not a rock song that much), it has a hook, it's fast, you can shout along to it. Great.
I like the Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning because I don't know the Nickelback songs it copies. That's typical BJ tune of the last decade and I realized that I enjoy listening to it.
I like Blind Love, finally a ballad without pathos (at least I feel it this way). When I first heard it, I thought is sounded like the beginning to Richie's Weathering The Storm and then that the piano sounds like Richie's You Can Only Get So High. Still I really like it. I woulnd't need the orchestration, the piano would be enough for me.
I'm getting into liking Fingerprints, which I still think would suck without the guitar solos. And Who Would You Die For - it sounds like many songs together, so many influences and ideas, still can't make my mind about it.
I adore A Teardrop To The Sea - excellent lyrics and the passion in singing. That's what I want from them. The passion is so missed in the recent releases. I know there won't be another New Jersey or These Days but the passion in music and having something to deliver should be there - I miss those thing in WAN and other albums compared to the classics (of course there are many other things which simply can't be there anymore).
And yeah Burning Bridges is fun. I only don't get why it got released when it clearly makes fun/bashes the record company which releases this record.
Sorry for the length, I needed to write it out of me :)

Becky 08-24-2015 10:22 PM

I had a meeting with another professional this morning and in our off-topic conversation about things we enjoy I mentioned Burning Bridges and he said, "Why haven't I heard of that one?" I told him, "Well, it just came out Friday." He said that would explain it. I told him it was the best album they'd put out in years so he'd have to get a copy. It was actually really amusing to me because I've never see an adult male act so truly befuddled about why he didn't know about a new Bon Jovi album. Maybe they should have promoted it a little bit!!


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