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James_86 02-03-2021 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272187)
I don't think you are. Something got posted somewhere that said it was a Crush outtake but I don't know who said what and when and it was just generally accepted it was from the 2000's.

I've always been led to believe it was an outtake from Crush.

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Captain_jovi 02-03-2021 06:53 PM

Listen to the way Richie is playing from 2:14 to around 2:35. I cant think of a single Crush b-side/demo that has that kind of playing, both in style or tone, but it fits right in to the '91 to early '94 era well. Even listening to it back to back with Prostitute, the style of playing and drum sound feels like a match. Just wish I could remember where on the site it was posted to be for KTF.

bonjovi90 02-03-2021 06:55 PM

Maybe Yovana can tell us if that song was already on one of the KTF demo cassettes?

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bonjovi90 02-03-2021 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272190)
Listen to the way Richie is playing from 2:14 to around 2:35. I cant think of a single Crush b-side/demo that has that kind of playing, both in style or tone, but it fits right in to the '91 to early '94 era well. Even listening to it back to back with Prostitute, the style of playing and drum sound feels like a match. Just wish I could remember where on the site it was posted to be for KTF.

Same here. The tuning, the playing, even Jon's "lazy grunge" vocal approach are very much early to mid 90s.

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James_86 02-03-2021 07:00 PM

I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying I've always heard it referred to as a Crush era song.

I've just give it a listen and agree, musically, it bares the style of early 90's BJ but the vocal... I just can't decide.

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Captain_jovi 02-03-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by James_86 (Post 1272193)
I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying I've always heard it referred to as a Crush era song.

I've just give it a listen and agree, musically, it bares the style of early 90's BJ but the vocal... I just can't decide.

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Oh, absolutely. It's been labeled as such for such a long time.

Vocally is where it gets muddy. He's clearing doing a guide vocal so it's tough to judge it on technical abilities.

bonjovi90 02-03-2021 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272194)
Oh, absolutely. It's been labeled as such for such a long time.

Vocally is where it gets muddy. He's clearing doing a guide vocal so it's tough to judge it on technical abilities.

I think that's why many people displace it. His guide vocal was done as a necessity at the time, but utilized as a stylistic device in songs like Temptation or Two Story Town. This demo has a slight rasp to his vocals that was more natural (i.e. less forced/strained) to his vocals in the early 90's and that's why I'd completely put it there. I don't think they redid the vocal take like on some songs for the box set or that Starting All Over Again.

YOVANAfromPeru 02-04-2021 03:59 AM

Not on the cassettes.

Captain_jovi 02-04-2021 04:13 AM

INTERESTING. This blows some holes into my theories.

Jovi98 02-07-2021 02:53 AM

https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace...ter=SVW&page=1


Closer "Westlife" was written by Jon, Richie and Shanks according to ASCAP, but the origin of this song still remains a mystery.

In your opinion ASCAP is always reliable or not???


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