"Last edited by Rdkopper; 11-16-2018 at 10:24 PM."

Mods didn't touch it.

The edited comment I get it perfectly
but before that one there was another completely different comment (I know, it's not big deal!!!) but I was just curious
I know, you Captain_jovi would never touch it, and I thank you for that!

maybe it was Rdkopper, but he was stressed?? lol
I don't know anymore U_U, I will NOT send any PM!
jajajaj

Right, but everyone is asking you to just PM someone if you want to talk to specifically just them.

Thanks for looking out... No, there was a comment I edited because it was meant towards someone else so instead of deleting it, I just posted something else...

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Seasonedfan, Exactly what I thought... that the first comment wasn’t towards to me... got it.

Cj, I bet lot of people read that first comment and I just wanted to clarify publicly, I mean I have a good reputation to keep... -_-

That was towards that pompous jerk off who pops in every so often...

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I know!!!!!
Shut up! lol

As per this article: "in 2016, Jon agreed and Phil became an official member along with bass guitarist Hugh McDonald"

https://myglobalmind.com/2018/11/20/...tarist-phil-x/

What was Jon's quote?

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This one!!: "Founding members = Family members"
LOL
Just, read the article...

I did but I didn't see any direct quotes from Jon or Phil

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Then I should be the journalist... hahahah


Matt's explanation: https://www.facebook.com/runawaywith...153045/?t=2991

If you close your eyes, he speaks and sounds exactly like Jon... Jon's NOW voice too...

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He talks kinda like his brother, even sometimes same exactly words lol; I guess too much time around JBJ.

Out of the last 20 posts in this thread, 18 are theirs. The other two are yours, moderating.

This board has become the Yovana & Rdk show. :roll:

And it's even less exciting than the current setlists from Bon Jovi [emoji849]

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I just count the posts, 20, it’s true, but seriously did you count the posts? O_O maybe the only truth and the 21st post is you being in love with Rdkopper??

Come on, stop it you both and comment about the Phil X interview, I found it interesting that this quote from Phil X: "a contract and a statement of confidentiality were put in place" is really a serious thing... lol

Hey, I enjoy their rambling :D

Why are you quoting things that weren't said? Where does it say that in https://myglobalmind.com/2018/11/20/...tarist-phil-x/ ?

I meant this in that article, Phil X: There’s been moments in the band, like, we have a great relationship, there’s amazing chemistry with everybody in this tour, and after a certain amount of time you can establish who the coolest guys in the band is, who the funniest guy in the band is, and …but everybody has a great sense of humor, so we’re laughing a lot. I’m just gonna say that anything else that I share, would get me in trouble.

see? Rdkopper is the only guy here who always understand me lol

No, there's just a huge difference between a contract not to talk and not wanting to tell a story that the band wouldn't want him telling. You're over exaggerating like crazy.

I mean this is the only thing that would make total sense.

Phil X: We’ll let’s see … NO! (Laughs). There’s lots of funny moments, but probably don’t want them out.


Lol

Yes, I see that; but that's the reporter's vague comment.

My question stands: Has there been an official statement from JBJ or BJM announcing that Phil-X (and Hugh) are now "official" members? What I remember is an interview with Phil where he was asked if he was officially a member and he replied "well, Jon's nodding at me so I guess the answer is 'yes'." (paraphrased from memory). That seems like an awfully informal, almost impulsive, way to a) inform Phil that he's an official member and, 2) to announce to the public that, for the first time in the band's history, a new "official" member has been added to replace one of the 5 founding members.

Beyond that, all I can remember is one of the promos, also in 2016, when Jon was asked how many official members are currently in the band and he said, "One: Me." Then he chuckled and said, "Three: me, Tico, and Dave."

I guess I’m the crazy here just for have a wonderful memory...
JBJ said something like: “One
you're looking out it
myself”

Speaking of crazies, Hugh https://www.instagram.com/p/BqchtrzA2Ei/

https://preview.ibb.co/n3MfAV/bonjovi.jpg


Doesn't the fact that both Phil and Hugh are listed on the official Bon Jovi FB page makes it very much official? Neither Hugh or Phil was listed prior to 2016 and if they included tour members both Shanks and Everett should be listed to.

We need more than that!

Here is my take....

I think there is a difference between Bon Jovi Official Band Members and Official Members Of Bon Jovi The Corporation.

Both Phil and Huge probably have long term contracts while the other members like Everette don't... Shanks is really the Producer who begged Jon to tour. If Bob Rock joined the KTF tour, I wouldn't expect to see his name added either...

The face of Bon Jovi as a band are all 5 long term contracted members so I get why they are on the tee-shirts, videos, and the official Bon Jovi webpage...

I think if you ask Jon, I believe he's still loyal to the other two original members who left and considers only him, Dave, and Tico Bon Jovi band members...


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Obviously he's loyal to David and Tico because they are original members but I don't see what has to do with bringing in new members? All members of Bon Jovi except Jon has simply been part of what you call "Official Members Of Bon Jovi The Corporation" as none of them have been on the contract. In that case Kiss is only a two-piece band because Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer are only hired hands and neither original members or part of the Kiss contract.

Of course I get what you mean that it differs to be a member "spiritually" like David and Tico unlike Phil. But at the end of the day both David and Phil are equals when it comes to their working title - employed musicans to Jon, the only thing that differs are their paycheck and number of years in the band.

Isn't that sad? SO many years together and still nothing has changed...

But that's not true, David's role in the band is far bigger than Phil's is. If you're going with title of bandmember, sure, but to say the only that differs is the paycheck, no way.

If you're insinuating that things have changed the way Jon viewed Huge when Alec left, I think you're 100% wrong...

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I might have put that wrong. Contractually that's pretty much what differs them. Then of course Phils role and importance can't even be compared to Davids in any way. Obivously David has done so much more for Bon Jovi. But in a restaurant kitchen the head chef whose been there for 10 years are naturally more important than the kitchen assistant whose been the for six months. But at the end of the day both them are just employees to the restaurant owner.

I'm not saying I like it or even has an opinion about it. I'm just trying to break it down to the truth as Bon Jovi is very much a corporation with paid musicans. I'm not trying to value members importance here, because that is pretty obvious whose done more for the band.

And it boils down to the fact Richie as far more important than anyone in the band... and whose leaving impacted Jon in a way no one would have predicted.

I think it’s kinda like the way Doc put it when it was the Hall thing “Johnny with the band and all the other guys in the band”
And about the Alec thing... I don’t know, I personally would never forget a person who helped me, like when Alec said “of course” to him and introduced him to Richie and then to Tico. They plus David helped him... and remember at that time, there was no money!

I see this as the total opposite....

I think most people thought it was going to be much worse... Sure, a key elements of the band is missing so things are going to be a little less of what they once were but I think overall, Jon didn't skip a beat...

This is not as bad as Slash leaving GNR.

- Jon's still headlining areas and stadiums when everyone said, he was done.

- Jon's playing Europe when everyone said never.

- Bon Jovi the band are still making new music.

Sure, I do miss Richie vocally... And I do miss his presence on stage from time to time. (It's not like I dwell the entire time over it)...

I don't blame Jon's current vocal state on Richie leaving... I think it's much bigger than that...

As long as Shanks is in the picture, the new music and songs would be the same regardless.

So yeah, of course he's going to be missed and certain fans will vary on that level but overall, I see the band carrying on as normal... And some of the subtle changes aren't necessarily a direct result of Richie's departure either... There are other elements impacting changes as well...



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Yeah, JBJ is doing just fine... that THINFS "book" finish with JBJ saying: "This is the next chapter, it’s not the last chapter... Those who came before us are as welcome as those who are here now. Everyone is a part of this legacy. Richie and Alec are part of our history, but that was then. This is now."

It says “founding member of @bonjovi”

What else is he supposed to say? If you want to move forward you have to accept the past and focus on the future. Good for him that he is able to talk about Richie leaving like that.

I used to have my own issues with disloyal people and I am always between still being angry, accepting it and not giving a ****. It is part of who I am now and if Jon can make peace with it then I'd say: good for him!