Richie. You can really hear it at a very specific part where it kind of stops...? The HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-EH-HOOOOOOOO if that makes sense. Compare that to his falsetto in "If I can't Have Your Love", I'm pretty sure it's him.

No doubt in my mind that it's Richie. His sound is all over it. Besides that, I can't imagine why Bobby would have recorded just the Hoooos, when Richie's doing the harmonies throughout the rest of the song; or why Bobby wouldn't have done them in the shows if he had done them originally.

I also noticed Richie doesn't do it live with everyone else (as far as I recall) but it's probably pretty hard to sing falsetto and play that guitar part? I don't know. But I don't for a second think Bobby was involved in the recording of any non-box set song vocally.

That's interesting. I don't think I've ever seen a show where he didn't sing it. But I don't remember watching that many videos of them doing it, either. It was just an assumption based on the ones I've seen.

EDIT: Sonofagun! I just watched several different videos and noticed that Richie didn't sing the Hoooos in all of them. Bobby did one when Richie wasn't there; and one where he and Richie both did them; and the others were pretty much an equal split between Richie or Lorenza. Live and learn! :D

Hah, I learned something too! I don't for a second think Jon did it on the record. He so rarely uses falsetto after a certain point and it just sounds so much like Richie's style to me at least.

I don't think Richie is on the song as much as you all think... It's definitely Richie on the "We Should Be" lyric but a lot of the harmonies are Jon backing himself up.

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Are you sure? I ran it through a vocal-isolater plugin and it sounds like Richie the whole way through. The "I could write a couple liiiines" is a dead giveaway. 2:08 forward is without question Richie. The first half I'm not positive.

You've touched on one of the reasons Jon's voice is gone. He only really used his chest voice to get to high notes, never going properly into head voice or falsetto.

Lyrics, Yes! But I bet Jon overdubbed himself with harmonies after.

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Just listened to it the whole way through, the main backing vocal throughout is clearly Richie to my ears. He has a certain raspyness to his voice that neither Jon or Bobby have. Bobby does do a decent Richie type vocal at times, but his voice is smoother and definitely lacks the rasp. Jon's original rasp disappeared over the years as he changed his singing style.

Even the ooo's at the end sound like Richie to me on a closer listen, but could be Bobby. I think Cap's comparison of If I Can't Have Your Love is a good call.

HA! That's exactly where I just stopped playback to come post the same thing. :D
There's no way that's not him singing "lii-i-ines"; but I'd back it up even further to 1:27. "...If ya stay..." and "... you wanna steal a piece of tii-i-ime..." is pure Richie, too, imo.

RDK, you may be right about the verses, but I'm not sure that what you're hearing isn't Richie emulating Jon's vocal style. He's done that before, where I've had to go back and listen to be sure it was him. I don't know if it's intentional or not, maybe for blend; but I've noticed it in several songs. In this case, while I agree that there are places in the verses that sound like Jon, there are just too many other words in the same places that have Richie's distinctive 'bend' (for want of a better word) for me to believe it's not Richie all the way through.

Including the oooohs, Thinny. :) It's that li'l hitch in it somewhere, like the Cap'n compared to If I Can't Have Your Love, that just nails it as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not doubting either way...

But I have a pretty good ear picking out Richie's voice and I hear it on everything that contains a lyric...

I'm just trying to figure out if they went back after and added all the additional harmonies, including the ending... and used studio tricks to do it. There are parts where I hear Jon backing himself up and that ending might just be just a random session singer who has a great falsetto.

Again, I'm not calling it either way but I'm not doubting my little conspiracy theory either.

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Jon used to sing some of the backing vocals throughout his career. Blaze Of Glory or These Days album for example.

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I hear JBJ and Richie.

Richie, for me.

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Just listened through a set of headphones - I do hear Richie backing him on some. Others is difficult to tell but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt on that but back to my original question...

I'm not convinced that it's Richie's falsetto at the end.. From what I'm hearing, I'm gearing more towards "no".

Dann Huff is a vocalist and he produced the track... Hummn

Lie To Me's first chorus is Jon and Jon, Richie's chorus part doesn't even come in until the second time around, for sure. And it sounds great.

Dan Huff is credited as playing some instruments on the album. If he was doing vocals he'd probably be credited for that too. Seriously, listen to If I Can't Have Your Love (mainly the intro) and tell me that's not Richie doing Memory.

I meant that he was doing the "yeah yeah yeah" part himself on the album :D

100%

I always thought it was an odd choice to have Jon to the Yeah yeah Yeah bits on Lie to me as Richie would have sounded great on that and would have tied in with the "I Don't Wanna Die No More" part. In fact when I hear that song in my head, I hear Richie doing it. I believe Dave did it live?

Dave definitely did it live. Personally quite liked having the contrasting voices in the background

For me,theres no doubt,its only Richies voice.

Yeah I get that, I do enjoy it with Dave's voice more than Jon's and would prefer that they did that on the record. I never really like it when the background vocal is the same as the lead. Strangely I don't mind it when the singer is backing themselves, like the first Lie To Me chorus, but a seperate backing vocal part should be a different voice in my opinion. Either way it's only a minor gripe. I love Lie To Me.

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Anyone ever noticed that they actually mixed clapping into the studio version of One Wild Night (Crush)? Or maybe I had been the only one to never realize that... :D

Interesting, what do you mean?

At around 3 minutes, after the solo and when Jon starts the "na na na" part, you can hear clapping on the right channel. First heard it on a friend's stereo two days ago since his sound system is of better quality than mine, but knowing it now, you can also hear it with headphones. It goes on for a bit after that break as well.

Ohhhhhh, I can hear the clapping! Nice find!

Jon did another review. This time Keep The Faith.

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Just a random find:


The official Bon Jovi channel have We Can Dance uploaded...

Just for Mexico.
https://polsy.org.uk/stuff/ytrestric...669084c4e27d62

Why they do that?

They don't. Someone here explained it better but the official channel isn't uploading things, it's a YouTube automatic algorithm that posts videos from other accounts. I'll try and remember the thread that talked about it.

Isn't the box set on Spotify?

Also, I just noticed how much We Can Dance's intro sounds like Postcards From The Wasteland.

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I understand that it's not the band, and it's a automatic algorithm from the publisher that puts the songs and those bootlegs on YouTube, under the Bon Jovi page. The thing I don't understand is why would it be only for Mexico, seems a bit random to me.

But I tried a Mexican VPN to see if it was really available there, and it is not. Must be unavailable everywhere.

We Can Dance and Postcards from the Wastelands are two of the best songs the band have made post-2000. I wish they had found a way to make it on to Bounce.

Couldn't agree more!!


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