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Thierry 09-11-2016 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rokenrola (Post 1206487)
you must be one of the experts,your way of discussion with me right now with words like "stupid" or to "f... off" tells me everything about you,what your level of culture is!
Wtf, Javier is one of the most respected members here, you my friend are clueless. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Sadly, for me too, Bon jovi is dead as a studioband for me too. Same reasons as Kathleen mentioned a few times before.

Quite sad actually as I have seen 37 shows, but don't know where to get my fix. I'm pretty sure I'll go to 2 or 3 shows the upcoming tour and hope for the best. 2013 was already quite poor, I still hope Jon can pull it off.

Thierry 09-11-2016 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1206489)
Well, I am no musical expert but I know what I like and what I dont like and why. I dont have to be an expert for this. There are some musicians on this board and there are different opinions going around here. I dont see a problem here.
I personally dont understand how someone could like Knockout and listen to rock music at the same time, as I stated before. I meant it quite literally and not as an insult. I dont get it.
Knockout is as far away from being a 'back-to-the-roots' song as it can get. I dont judge people for enjoying pop music (well, for the most part anyway:-)), but this song is just awful, imo. I dont get how a 54-year old who is sooooo proud of his achievment as a long-lasting artist can put out something like this and advertising it as 'back to the roots' and 'we played in the studio as a band' and blabla. This is the opposite of that.
Agreed, Jon is destroying the legacy with crap like this. It's like complicated part 2. Piss poor lyrics and uninspired music. Hopefully that isn't what he mentioned that it sound like hand and td.

rokenrola 09-11-2016 11:19 PM
I didnt say what you should or not discuss here but you are giving yourself to much freedom to write so rough,so raw and showing disrespect to band,I listen rock music and I am not overwelmed with new songs,I like it,both,but when I dislike something from the band there is no deep analyse of production,sound of guitar etc. And you guys here,some girls,attack right away and just because someone likes Knockout he or she is stupid.
I am just saying that you need to volume down negativity,that is all!

Xavi 09-11-2016 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1206451)
I do not believe him. In a promotional interview they lie. I do not think that Tico play on all the songs.
Because We Can,We Dont Run,programmed drums

Thierry 09-11-2016 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1206494)
Because We Can,We Dont Run,programmed drums
Yup it's pretty obvious. Probably because Tico was playing golf somewhere at the same time.

Thierry 09-11-2016 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rokenrola (Post 1206493)
I didnt say what you should or not discuss here but you are giving yourself to much freedom to write so rough,so raw and showing disrespect to band,I listen rock music and I am not overwelmed with new songs,I like it,both,but when I dislike something from the band there is no deep analyse of production,sound of guitar etc. And you guys here,some girls,attack right away and just because someone likes Knockout he or she is stupid.
I am just saying that you need to volume down negativity,that is all!
It's called freedom of speech. It just a shame that it's all so poppy now, doesn't have anything with rock. Just listen to the latest Metallica or Alter Bridge songs, that's rock.

bounce442 09-11-2016 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1206450)
Stupid that it sounds it is not unknown for a drummer to drum to a track and then have their entire performance replaced by programmed drums mimicking what they have played.
This.

I have "Drum Replacer" VST that can replace a real kit with an electronic or a real kit with another (different) kit. If the drum track on Knockout is a real kit, they did a great job at making them sound like modern software.

bjcrazycpa 09-11-2016 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1206496)
It's called freedom of speech. It just a shame that it's all so poppy now, doesn't have anything with rock. Just listen to the latest Metallica or Alter Bridge songs, that's rock.
Agreed on both of those bands. But, I'm still a fan of Knockout!! I'm weird!!

Thierry 09-11-2016 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1206499)
Agreed on both of those bands. But, I'm still a fan of Knockout!! I'm weird!!
Yup and still hot too :).

bucketfinck 09-11-2016 11:39 PM
When we got the track description, it was pretty obvious that Knockout would be this type of song.
It seems that much of the rests of the album is a bit deeper though, so I still have hope that the album will be good. Its okay to have 2-3 songs like Knockout on the record, but hope for a bit darker vibe on some songs.
Would love to see something like "teardrop.."

My suggestion for best tracks (based on the little we know) is Living With the ghost, Labor of love, Devis in the temple and scars on my guitar.
It looks like the songs most likely recorded "almost live" is Labor of love and New years day.


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