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rolo_tomachi 09-21-2016 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adrianoizar (Post 1207411)
POSSIBLE RELEASE DATES!
1º Video - This House Is Not For Sale; (12.08.2016)
2º Video - Knockout (30.09.2016)
3º Video - Come Up To Our House (11.11.2016)
4º Video - New Year's Day (09.01.2016)

I need a time machine to travel back. :D

Santa Fe 09-21-2016 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by adrianoizar (Post 1207411)
POSSIBLE RELEASE DATES!
1º Video - This House Is Not For Sale; (12.08.2016)
2º Video - Knockout (30.09.2016)
3º Video - Come Up To Our House (11.11.2016)
4º Video - New Year's Day (09.01.2016)

Which is the source ?

steel_horse75 09-22-2016 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by adrianoizar (Post 1207411)
POSSIBLE RELEASE DATES!

1º Video - This House Is Not For Sale; (12.08.2016)

2º Video - Knockout (30.09.2016)

3º Video - Come Up To Our House (11.11.2016)

4º Video - New Year's Day (09.01.2017)



Labour of love is out Friday apparently but maybe no vid for that

bounce442 09-22-2016 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1207395)
The interview SOUNDED nice and honest but his actions (songs, RT, etc.) show otherwise.

He would care more for new fans because he wants to grow as an artist.
--> I wouldnt consider anything from the last few years growing.
He says he hopes that the new Bob Dylan would be able to be heard.
--> I know many, many artists who produce ART and are heard by others
He was NEVER motivated by MONEY and APPLAUSE
--> Takes part in his own produced sell-out AKA Runaway tours.
----> WWWB documentary: 'I want to sell out the desert.TWICE.
He talks about dumbed down music
--> Puts out Knockout which is dumbed down as hell. I am out listening to the new Nick Cave....

Yeah...right.

The moment he will actually live the things he says, I might believe him again

While agree with all the points you made and I'm feeling jaded by THINFS and Knockout, I still can't help but get excited for this new album. And though it is as good as interviews get these days, it wasn't Jon's responses that excited me... it was the enthusiasm in the interviewer.

I'm excited again for this album... there's at least hope.

JerseyGiant 09-22-2016 01:10 AM

What a great interview so good to hear something different! Open and honest about his voice 2! I really do have the faith that it can return in some way. The stress and everything that has happened since WAN really sounds like its taken its toll. I cant wait to hear the record ive stayed away from everything all snippets etc except from THINFS

Rdkopper 09-22-2016 02:58 AM

The interview was okay... The way everyone was praising it, I was expecting much more... He did say a lot of repeat stuff... Nothing really new with Richie, he repeated himself about the 'where are they now' tour a few dozen times...

I thought he was actually discussing his vocal condition not just saying that he doesn't sing Bad Name as good anymore or something to that effect...

The guy giving the interview was good all-in-all but it was the same shit. Sorry but it was... Just phrased a bit different

Walleris 09-22-2016 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1207425)
I thought he was actually discussing his vocal condition not just saying that he doesn't sing Bad Name as good anymore or something to that effect...

You missed that, the Bad Name bit was at the end. But in the beginning he said how in the last few years he had physical difficulties in getting to sing like he knows he's able to, but has confidence to get it back. And how people close to him keep saying everything will be alright.

It wasn't really 'discussing', but that's that's as close as he has ever gotten to that if I'm not mistaken and as close as anyone as any active singer is probably ever going to admit.

Becky 09-22-2016 03:22 AM

I really enjoyed the interview. It was interesting and the interviewer's enthusiasm about the album is exciting.

Captain_jovi 09-22-2016 03:47 AM

Jon said quite a few things that he hasn't mentioned before in interviews, this is the closest we've got to him going off book in a long time.

Savvi 09-22-2016 04:15 AM

I'm with most people on this, it was a great interview. It gives me confidence that Jon still is giving it his all and that he may still be able to get his voice to an acceptable level again.

The bit of the interview at the very start where the interviewer spoke about the Born Again Tomorrow...

"...I heard a rave, like a Calvin Harris type arrangement, and something that had a real dance kind of sound to it, Born Again Tomorrow, with a drop. It was brilliant."

This makes me nervous and excited at the same time. If Jon really is going for a new fan base then it makes sense. But it could go terribly wrong. I love a song with a good drop in it, but never thought I'd hear one (or want to hear one) on a Jovi record. Im curious to say the least!

I wasn't a fan of "Take Back the Night", which is the closest song of their's which I can hear a dance/rave influence, so I hope it's at least better than that.

As for the Labor of Love clip. I'm pleasantly surprised. My first impression was "oh this sounds a bit like Lonely, and his voice sounds pretty good!".

My hope for the album went down a little after I heard THINFS (not cos I didn't like the song, cos I do, but because it wasn't anything special and it sounded like something we've gotten before). But now Im quite excited for the release.

soundfire624 09-22-2016 04:17 AM

Thank you so much for the link sir..
enjoying so much listening the interview and i agreed with most of you here, it's the honest thing i heard, he laughed so hard something i never seen before on the recent interview which he was like keeping distance and stuff and also thumbs up for the man who ask the questions, he is enjoying himself..

I can only say that there is TRUTH about what Jon said, we all know some fans are wanted to have BJ sounds like before the TD KTF SWW era and stuff but i have to agree that This is about business , it would be so naive if we say that "i dont care too much about the money..Well to be keeping in the music business which NEEDS MONEY for record, paying crews and stuff, releasing records they need money, they need to sell something out and i think the key that Bon Jovi manage to survive until today is because they also keeping with today's flavor without changing lines...

well i lived in the era of Guns & Roses, Sepultura, Bon Jovi, Mr Big, Harem Scarem, Def Leppard, Metallica, Skid Row...

Where are they now?Some of them still exist?of course but none of them as still BIG as Bon Jovi to be honest...some of them are having fun with reunion concert..some of them are living in the shadow of their success era..and some of them are trying hard to survive..

i watch Mr Big concert lately and to be honest if they throw concert in open stadium they will barely make a sold out concert..

and i am glad i still get the chance to hear Bon Jovi album rather than some Bieber or Swift album these days..or Simple plan..i am just glad
Different? of course but i can live with that, it's not like i am gonna hear Jon dancing around playing some Dance song..their root is still there and i am happy with that..

i am gonna be those who sit back and enjoy their album, though may be a chance i might skip on2 of two of their songs coz i dont like em but it's fine by me..

i will live with that.. :D
i can wait to hear the Devil in the temple and Born Again Tomorrow or the Scar on the guitars..they both SOUNDS promising

Adam D 09-22-2016 05:01 AM

I'm going to show my age here but...

What is a "drop"?

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DestinationJovi 09-22-2016 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan85 (Post 1207371)
People would say Jon is maybe selling out his fans by looking for new ones.....Jon knows he can't do albums of 20 plus years go, nor would he want to. I think it's about embracing who I am now and what I can't and can do musically. If that means fans leave me because I am not who you want me to be of the past so be it.....

But you're twisting the question to justify his answer. BOTH choices were fans embracing the new album. It's just that one choice was only the current fan base loving it, and the other choice was only a brand new group of fans loving it.

He was asked to choose between:

1. This album will be massive amongst fans who are already fans of Bon Jovi but no one new will come to it, or

2. A legion of new people will discover Bon Jovi but your current fans won't get it

I don't quite understand how Jon feels he wouldn't be growing or evolving if he made music that was loved "only" by his current fan base - a fan base that has given him his "130 million albums sold" and "highest grossing world tours" bragging rights. He himself said today, and a million times before, that he couldn't and wouldn't write Bad Name at 54. He has grown and evolved since then. So the current fan base has obviously grown and evolved right along with him and the band over the years.

I realize the question was hypothetical and that obviously neither choice would ever occur solely, but I just find his choice selection a bit ironic considering this entire album is supposed to be about loyalty. If the current fan base (who has been loyal and stuck with them through the highs and lows of their career) loves the album, it's a little disappointing to hear that he'd rather have a whole new group of fans love the album instead.

This heart? This soul? This house.....?

Manbou 09-22-2016 05:25 AM

I guess everything to the interview has already been said, I've got nothing really to add. But enjoyed it a lot and am looking forward to tomorrow, and to the 21st of October especially, of course.

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Originally Posted by Adam D (Post 1207432)
I'm going to show my age here but...

What is a "drop"?

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No worries, wanted to ask the same question like you though I'm even younger than you are! ;)
I first thought it just might be a bit of complete silence in the music, but as it seems to be a more specific figure or something...

jovifan93 09-22-2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Manbou (Post 1207436)
I guess everything to the interview has already been said, I've got nothing really to add. But enjoyed it a lot and am looking forward to tomorrow, and to the 21st of October especially, of course.



No worries, wanted to ask the same question like you though I'm even younger than you are! ;)
I first thought it just might be a bit of complete silence in the music, but as it seems to be a more specific figure or something...

Yeah, me too, and I make music myself. It's just that I don't like EDM, Metal, or wherever it's been listed on Wikipedia to occurr, at all ;-)

Seems to be a something "dropped in" by the producer to mix things up, like another beat or something, if I understood correctly.

Manbou 09-22-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1207442)
Yeah, me too, and I make music myself. It's just that I don't like EDM, Metal, or wherever it's been listed on Wikipedia to occurr, at all ;-)

Seems to be a something "dropped in" by the producer to mix things up, like another beat or something, if I understood correctly.

Well, thanks for contributing what you know :)
If it is like you described it, it would have probably been Something I would have told jon Not to do If he asked me. But he surprised Us in a positive way before - well, also in negativr ways, but what can We Do? Plus, i have a positive feeling About this... excited to hear it.

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Dave88 09-22-2016 09:53 AM

In EDM, a drop is the moment where the beat kicks in after a break.

See 4:42 for example:


2:07 here:


KSantaFe 09-22-2016 09:57 AM

A "drop" is a feature in a lot of electronic dance music where the beat builds , changing in rhythm, and climaxes with a slight pause and then some kind of rhythmic payoff - if that makes any sense.

I'm not really a fan of that kind of thing, but I'm still intrigued, and fairly excited to hear it. And anyway, I'm sure there'll be other things on the album to enjoy - seems there's going to be decent variety.

Manbou 09-22-2016 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1207444)
In EDM, a drop is the moment where the beat kicks in after a break.

See 4:42 for example:


Thabjs, dave88 and ksantafe!
After reading this and taking a look at the drop, i think the concept itself is neither good nor Bad. I think it heavily depends on what the band makes out of it.

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Bleeding Purist 09-22-2016 10:49 AM

Labor of Love has my attention. I keep being drawn back to playing those 30 seconds, so really looking forward to Friday.

JOVI7826 09-22-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1207447)
Labor of Love has my attention. I keep being drawn back to playing those 30 seconds, so really looking forward to Friday.

That goes for me too... Only "bad" point is that it reminds me a little of Someday I'll Be Saturday Night...I keep listening to it all day...Hopefully we'll have it tonight...Can't wait.

liljovi93 09-22-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1207425)
The interview was okay... The way everyone was praising it, I was expecting much more... He did say a lot of repeat stuff... Nothing really new with Richie, he repeated himself about the 'where are they now' tour a few dozen times...

I thought he was actually discussing his vocal condition not just saying that he doesn't sing Bad Name as good anymore or something to that effect...

The guy giving the interview was good all-in-all but it was the same shit. Sorry but it was... Just phrased a bit different

I have to really disagree. Yeah, it was the same stuff but it was much more detailed and we got so much more from Jon during this interview than we have in the past God knows how many years...

This is the first time I have ever heard JBJ pretty much criticize himself. He said himself that he isn't at the level he is capable of vocally. We all knew he surely knew that but for him to actually say it was a bit of a shock.

I think the reason he kept saying the 'where are we now' thing was because the interviewer genuinely found it funny when he first heard it so JBJ said it a few more times.

I found this whole interview very interesting. The interviewer was superb. The questions he asked weren't pushing any buttons but some where stuff you'd expect JBJ to be quite snotty about. The whole Richie Christmas Card list etc...

JBJ seemed in a good mood but you can still tell he is majorly pissed off about a few things. He was dying to say more about the record company. He was so close to saying the guys name that 'Devils In The Temple' is about but knew he couldn't/shouldn't.

After listening to this interview, I think we are going to get an album that is lyrically passionate. Musically, maybe not so much. The lyrics are going to have a lot of aggression and passion behind them.

I can't see us getting another interview like this in a long time, to be honest. Lorraine and The One Show are clearly going to be the usual stuff.

bjcrazycpa 09-22-2016 02:32 PM

I loved the interview. Jon was funny, honest, and even vulnerable at times. Kudos to the interviewer. And thank you to Dominick (may have misspelled your name) for getting that posted for us. :)

steel_horse75 09-22-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1207452)
I have to really disagree. Yeah, it was the same stuff but it was much more detailed and we got so much more from Jon during this interview than we have in the past God knows how many years...

This is the first time I have ever heard JBJ pretty much criticize himself. He said himself that he isn't at the level he is capable of vocally. We all knew he surely knew that but for him to actually say it was a bit of a shock.

I think the reason he kept saying the 'where are we now' thing was because the interviewer genuinely found it funny when he first heard it so JBJ said it a few more times.

I found this whole interview very interesting. The interviewer was superb. The questions he asked weren't pushing any buttons but some where stuff you'd expect JBJ to be quite snotty about. The whole Richie Christmas Card list etc...

JBJ seemed in a good mood but you can still tell he is majorly pissed off about a few things. He was dying to say more about the record company. He was so close to saying the guys name that 'Devils In The Temple' is about but knew he couldn't/shouldn't.

After listening to this interview, I think we are going to get an album that is lyrically passionate. Musically, maybe not so much. The lyrics are going to have a lot of aggression and passion behind them.

I can't see us getting another interview like this in a long time, to be honest. Lorraine and The One Show are clearly going to be the usual stuff.

Im looking forward to the one show asking him about birds that live in mountains like last time he was on. What turd of a show that is

symbeline 09-22-2016 03:40 PM

Fantastic interview, many thanks for posting!

The only thing I didn't like was the way he kept referring to Richie's *issues* just right after he talked about "last time he went to rehab we called Phil X to fill in blah blah"

The fans who are following the saga know that Richie's issues are mainly not wanting to be Jon's sidekick again (to sum it up...), but to those who only know that Richie left one day and now he's making music with a blonde chick, it MAY sound like Jon is implying personal problems.

I don't think he is, of course, and I don't think his intention is to cause speculation, but the wording may cause confusion, me thinks

Walleris 09-22-2016 03:51 PM

I didn't see anyone talking about this, but did anyone laugh when Jon said "you will never see me on the 'where are they' tour, never hear me coming out of rehab or marying my 7th wife". Digging deep :D

jovifan93 09-22-2016 03:52 PM

Another interview:

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1yoKMrzZRZeGQ

steel_horse75 09-22-2016 03:57 PM

https://twitter.com/BANGShowbiz?lang=en-gb

Savvi 09-22-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1207464)

He says they've never performed an album in it's entirety? Didn't they do Lost Highway on that DVD?

Captain_jovi 09-22-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1207466)
He says they've never performed an album in it's entirety? Didn't they do Lost Highway on that DVD?

They did LH in full multiple times on tour. Strange.

bjcrazycpa 09-22-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1207467)
They did LH in full multiple times on tour. Strange.

As soon as he said that I was like, "senior moment"...ha ha, I was at the Vancouver show when the LH record was played in full along with at least one of the NJ/Prudential shows.

WILDJOVIMAN 09-22-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1207467)
They did LH in full multiple times on tour. Strange.

I´m shure he´s forgotten LH

Manbou 09-22-2016 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WILDJOVIMAN (Post 1207469)
I´m shure he´s forgotten LH

Strange as it seemed to be his favorite Album for a long time now ;)

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crashed 09-22-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Manbou (Post 1207470)
Strange as it seemed to be his favorite Album for a long time now ;)

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But Lost Highway was also eight years ago. Jon doesn't and never has liked looking at the past.

Manbou 09-22-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crashed (Post 1207471)
But Lost Highway was also eight years ago. Jon doesn't and never has liked looking at the past.

Hm, I wouldn't take this as a rule. Look at how often he decides to play new stuff on the tour, and how often he rather decides to overplay songs, that might have been good a while ago, but now nobody wants to listen to anymore because they are so overplayed (LH, WLOL, Who Says, Captain Crash, Born to Follow...). I know that this specific phenomen is most probably because of the voice issues, but then he also could have played more songs from The Circle or whatever album they were touring right now (besides the obvious hits, of course). That's the example I had in mind when writing the other, short post. Anyway, I think you'll get my point. :)

Even though I could imagine reasons why Jon wouldn't want to do this (look at the past). But as he stated lots of times already, he's at peace with his past and wouldn't do anything differently if he could choose again

Dave88 09-22-2016 05:10 PM

Labor of Love is now available on iTunes New Zealand.

Captain_jovi 09-22-2016 05:19 PM

From the 1:30 sample, wow. Great vocals. Tramples over Thick as Thieves as far as mid tempo songs go. Similar theme to I could make a living out of loving you. Really looking forward to hearing it in full. Liking the production, very lush vibe.

Walleris 09-22-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1207475)
Labor of Love is now available on iTunes New Zealand.

As usual, it will probably appear on all stores and streaming services once the clock hits midnight.

Kova 09-22-2016 05:24 PM

Labor of love is definitely something like acoustic Saturday night, but I also hear Livin in Sin a little bit.

jovifan85 09-22-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1207476)
From the 1:30 sample, wow. Great vocals. Tramples over Thick as Thieves as far as mid tempo songs go. Similar theme to I could make a living out of loving you. Really looking forward to hearing it in full. Liking the production, very lush vibe.

Do you need Itunes to hear this? Is it possible to provide the sample without ITunes?


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