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Bleeding Purist 10-06-2016 01:38 AM

Got my email from Target letting me know that my CD has been delayed until November.

PanosBonJovi 10-06-2016 01:56 AM

Official release date changed from 21 Oct to 4 Nov.

GabrielC 10-06-2016 02:45 AM

Born Again Tomorrow is a dance song. It will be bad received by the fans just like Put Your Hands Up was by Matchbox20 fans.

trevrox 10-06-2016 04:15 AM

We need the people who were at Ellen to share the album!!

GabrielC 10-06-2016 04:26 AM


They play a bit of "Living with the Ghost". The song is about Richie.

soundfire624 10-06-2016 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1209009)
EXCLUSIVE: Jon Bon Jovi Dishes on Having One of the Strongest Marriages in Hollywood - YouTube

They play a bit of "Living with the Ghost". The song is about Richie.

i guess it has thousand meaning rather than Richie Sambora in my opinion..
it could be ghost where the fans expect him to be a Slippery When Wet Jon, 80's Jon etc...it just ET made it up i guess

nikos greece 10-06-2016 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundfire624 (Post 1209027)
i guess it has thousand meaning rather than Richie Sambora in my opinion..
it could be ghost where the fans expect him to be a Slippery When Wet Jon, 80's Jon etc...it just ET made it up i guess

it may has more than one meanings but jon clearly stated you know who the ghost in the song refers to...so i think its straightforward Richie was the inspiration behind the lyrics at first to say the least.

BonJovi100 10-06-2016 12:14 PM

Livin With The Ghost sound AMAIZING on this snippet :O

Olivern3 10-06-2016 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1208980)
There's quite a few out there.



You don't mind sending me a few links, do you? Can't seem to find any :(


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rolo_tomachi 10-06-2016 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonJovi100 (Post 1209032)
Livin With The Ghost sound AMAIZING on this snippet :O

Sounds What About Now production for me. :|

BonJovi100 10-06-2016 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1209035)
Sounds What About Now production for me. :|

For me typical The Circle meet Matchbox 20

Kukoc7 10-06-2016 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonJovi100 (Post 1209041)
For me typical The Circle meet Matchbox 20

Right on!!
My optimism runs parallel to you...
As long as the production has a Burning Bridges/THINFS(1st 3 songs) feel to it,
I'll be just fine with this release.

symbeline 10-06-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1209030)
it may has more than one meanings but jon clearly stated you know who the ghost in the song refers to...so i think its straightforward Richie was the inspiration behind the lyrics at first to say the least.

I haven't listened to the song but I read the lyrics and to me it's clearly about Richie. In a good way.

I'm dreading to listen to the song because I LOVE the lyrics, there's anguish, there's sincerity, they are deep enough to mean something without being an obvious effort to sound poetical and profound with an overuse of fancy words and cringeworthy metaphors (I'm looking at you Amen lol), so yeah, that's my kind of lyrics and I already have this picture in my mind... I don't want that image to be ruined by the music :/

Too bad the release date has been pushed back (yesterday I asked at the local CD store and they still have the October date, but they said it can change any day). I'm suddenly very scared when I read so many complains about too much pop rock songs. I'm on the minority since I love their poppier songs A LOT, but I need this album to be grittier and darker and I miss their rock sound :(

JOVI7826 10-06-2016 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1209009)
EXCLUSIVE: Jon Bon Jovi Dishes on Having One of the Strongest Marriages in Hollywood - YouTube

They play a bit of "Living with the Ghost". The song is about Richie.

Anyone knows what begins at 0:35...and ends at 0:55???Reminds me of Livin' On A Prayer a little...

wichi850262 10-06-2016 02:58 PM

I am a music producer and I hate how the word "production" is bandied around this forum! ;) Can't you choose another term ;) ;)

crashed 10-06-2016 04:17 PM

I'm still holding out to listen to the full album - won't even touch the live tracks until then, and no more songs.

Roll on 4th November.

rolo_tomachi 10-06-2016 04:19 PM

Burn With Me was a very timely filtration, now we just have to wait for the filtration of the song with Avicci.
:p

Bleeding Purist 10-06-2016 06:38 PM

Everyone...

We've gotten into a very bad habit of just throwing everything into a single thread. Things like a new song should be getting their own thread and discussion. Does anyone really want to shift through hundreds of pages about an album to find the section where the board discovered a new song to read the initial reactions? The lyric sheets should have gotten their own thread or been posted in the existing album thread, as another example.

We have a whole board to use.. use it. No need to huddle in a corner using one or two threads. It makes it look desolate and unused at a time when it's relatively picking up around here. This isn't Facebook where we just keep commenting over and over on a single post about Bon Jovi about all things Bon Jovi.

As Mods, the tools are wonky for moving such posts into an appropriate existing or new thread, so we are not able to efficiently do this.

James_86 10-06-2016 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1209102)
Everyone...

We've gotten into a very bad habit of just throwing everything into a single thread. Things like a new song should be getting their own thread and discussion. Does anyone really want to shift through hundreds of pages about an album to find the section where the board discovered a new song to read the initial reactions? The lyric sheets should have gotten their own thread or been posted in the existing album thread, as another example.

We have a whole board to use.. use it. No need to huddle in a corner using one or two threads. It makes it look desolate and unused at a time when it's relatively picking up around here. This isn't Facebook where we just keep commenting over and over on a single post about Bon Jovi about all things Bon Jovi.

As Mods, the tools are wonky for moving such posts into an appropriate existing or new thread, so we are not able to efficiently do this.

Jeez, I bet you're fun at parties.. :p

bonboy25 10-06-2016 09:09 PM

I'm really enjoying Born Again Tomorrow, once you get past the first chorus. Turns into a big electric rock song to me anyway. Being kiwi, we get it first hehe :D

BD135 10-06-2016 10:17 PM

"Scars On This Guitar" blows away "Labor Of Love". Should have been a promotional single.

symbeline 10-06-2016 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wichi850262 (Post 1209060)
I am a music producer and I hate how the word "production" is bandied around this forum! ;) Can't you choose another term ;) ;)

Ok, enlighten us ;)

I don't know if I use the word "production" correctly, I associate it with tweaking a song until it's a final product, *engineering* it if you want. I *know* this because a friend plays in a pop rock band, and he refers to production as to what the sound engineers (I think) do with their recordings in the studio: a vast and amazing amount of things BTW. I guess the producer is the one who orchestrates that.

What would be the correct terminology?

wichi850262 10-07-2016 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1209141)
Ok, enlighten us ;)

I don't know if I use the word "production" correctly, I associate it with tweaking a song until it's a final product, *engineering* it if you want. I *know* this because a friend plays in a pop rock band, and he refers to production as to what the sound engineers (I think) do with their recordings in the studio: a vast and amazing amount of things BTW. I guess the producer is the one who orchestrates that.

What would be the correct terminology?

Production is just part of the game and is not the be-all, one stop fix to a finished record. There are many steps involved. Nobody has even mentioned mastering, where a sound can also sometimes, and does, get shaped. I wouldn't say that Shanks did all phases either - that is not how it's done. It's not always production's fault, that's all I'm saying, if a sound is what it is. I know this because I am an engineer ;) And yes, there is a lot to the process of getting a song 'done', let alone a who album that is a coherent piece of work.

JOVI7826 10-07-2016 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonboy25 (Post 1209127)
I'm really enjoying Born Again Tomorrow, once you get past the first chorus. Turns into a big electric rock song to me anyway. Being kiwi, we get it first hehe :D

It will sound good those parties in Ibiza...

rolo_tomachi 10-07-2016 04:31 PM


GabrielC 10-07-2016 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1209235)

Nothing that new, that's what Jon has been saying for 2 years.

Captmorgs 10-07-2016 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1209235)



"Out of great pain, comes great art." I agree this makes better songs for him and the band. I didn't care for the songs about the plight of the common man and life in Obama's America.


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Old Joysey 10-07-2016 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1209259)
"Out of great pain, comes great art."

That's why he should be forever grateful to the Buffalo football team's owners and supporters! ;)

Rdkopper 10-08-2016 01:37 AM

When KTF and TD's first came out, a lot of fans in the US had a hard time accepting them because they didn't have those same 80's elements that the first 6 (including solo) albums had... The music was different, Jon cut his hair which people had a hard time accepting, his style was different, and the music had completely changed...

Back then, Keep The Faith had some gems like BOR, In These Arms, & Dry County because of those 80's element and ballad like songs people craved for... But KTF as a single was like 'WHAT!!!!!' Others like Little Bit Of Soul & Women In Love were considered filler tracks when you compare them to the 2 monster prior albums like Slipper and Jersey where every track was killer... If I Was Your Mother was cool because it was the closest to grunge and rocked but it wasn't Blood on Blood...

TD's took on that same similar vibe too. I think after Always, everyone thought Jon was going back to old school 80's but he obviously didn't...

It wasn't until after the fact, post Crush where fans looked back on those albums and realized how great they really where from top to bottom... The fashion and trends were both removed and it was solely about the songs and entire albums...

I feel like history is kinda repeating itself a little here... BB is KTF and THINFS is TDs... Jon now has the gray hair, similar to when he cut it back in the 90's.. These albums are different and have some depth... Some people are embracing it while others are still trying to figure it all out... I'm not saying that THINFS is as good as TDs... I'm just saying that it all feels a little familiar... I feel that Jon is no longer going for IML part 2 3 4 5 6... There is an honesty here that I haven't seen in a while... These songs are more than just some manufactured piece of garbage...

I think these albums will be albums that we look back on in 5 to 7 to 10 years when Jon's voice is completely shot out and say "If Jon could just give us those albums again, I'd be satisfied"...

crashed 10-08-2016 01:44 AM

What I'm enjoying as whilst Jon might not be capable of belting out a scream like the 80's or 90's, he seems to have rediscovered his way of phrasing again, which is what I've always loved about his singing anyway.

That's just as important as hitting high notes, and was missing on quite a few songs on both The Circle and What About Now.

Really looking forward to the rest of this record.

Rdkopper 10-08-2016 04:45 AM

So the majority of this album was written by Jon, John, and Billy... However there are 3 other writers mentioned...

Brett James - Scars On This Guitar

Chris DeStefano & Ashley Gorley - Roller Coaster

I decided to see what else these these guys wrote with the band...

Brett James:
Scars On This Guitar
Touch Of Grey
Till We Ain't Strangers Anymore
What Do You Got

Chris DeStefano:
Life Is Beautiful

Ashley Gorley:
N/A

soundfire624 10-08-2016 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1209320)
When KTF and TD's first came out, a lot of fans in the US had a hard time accepting them because they didn't have those same 80's elements that the first 6 (including solo) albums had... The music was different, Jon cut his hair which people had a hard time accepting, his style was different, and the music had completely changed...

Back then, Keep The Faith had some gems like BOR, In These Arms, & Dry County because of those 80's element and ballad like songs people craved for... But KTF as a single was like 'WHAT!!!!!' Others like Little Bit Of Soul & Women In Love were considered filler tracks when you compare them to the 2 monster prior albums like Slipper and Jersey where every track was killer... If I Was Your Mother was cool because it was the closest to grunge and rocked but it wasn't Blood on Blood...

TD's took on that same similar vibe too. I think after Always, everyone thought Jon was going back to old school 80's but he obviously didn't...

It wasn't until after the fact, post Crush where fans looked back on those albums and realized how great they really where from top to bottom... The fashion and trends were both removed and it was solely about the songs and entire albums...

I feel like history is kinda repeating itself a little here... BB is KTF and THINFS is TDs... Jon now has the gray hair, similar to when he cut it back in the 90's.. These albums are different and have some depth... Some people are embracing it while others are still trying to figure it all out... I'm not saying that THINFS is as good as TDs... I'm just saying that it all feels a little familiar... I feel that Jon is no longer going for IML part 2 3 4 5 6... There is an honesty here that I haven't seen in a while... These songs are more than just some manufactured piece of garbage...

I think these albums will be albums that we look back on in 5 to 7 to 10 years when Jon's voice is completely shot out and say "If Jon could just give us those albums again, I'd be satisfied"...

and KTF finally caught me as fan...that song that blown me away and drawn me to them until now, when there was New Kids On The block, Michael Jackson and stuff...that song caught me and made me love Bon Jovi, and i WILL evolve with this guys no matter what...Ha ha ha

rolo_tomachi 10-08-2016 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1209326)

I decided to see what else these these guys wrote with the band...

Brett James:
Scars On This Guitar
Touch Of Grey
Till We Ain't Strangers Anymore
What Do You Got

So Touch Of Grey might be another ballad with hints country .... interesting.

Dave88 10-08-2016 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1209326)
So the majority of this album was written by Jon, John, and Billy... However there are 3 other writers mentioned...

Brett James - Scars On This Guitar

Chris DeStefano & Ashley Gorley - Roller Coaster

4 others actually. Luke Laird co-wrote I Will Drive You Home. I know it's a bonus track, but still...

rolo_tomachi 10-09-2016 08:34 PM

What happened to the song for an upcoming netflix movie?, some new data?

Javier 10-09-2016 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1209426)
What happened to the song for an upcoming netflix movie?, some new data?

Just saw the movie. No jovi during the movie and not a mention of a song by either them or U2 in the credits like it was reported earlier. Wonder what happened....

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Jack27 10-10-2016 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1209433)
Just saw the movie. No jovi during the movie and not a mention of a song by either them or U2 in the credits like it was reported earlier. Wonder what happened....

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I think if memory serves me right that the Bon Jovi / U2 mention was because it was the same director who shot the film who had shot Bon Jovi / U2 videos...not new music for the film.

crobb991 10-10-2016 12:09 PM

Is anyone else hoping this album is gonna leak soon... I'm not usually someone who downloads albums as I like going to the shop and buying them but this extra two week wait for no reason is gonna be hell

Javier 10-10-2016 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1209447)
I think if memory serves me right that the Bon Jovi / U2 mention was because it was the same director who shot the film who had shot Bon Jovi / U2 videos...not new music for the film.

Back in July reports and press releases for the movie talked about the movie featuring music from U2 and Bon Jovi. Now all I can find when searching for it is the video director mention. Weird....

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rolo_tomachi 10-10-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crobb991 (Post 1209448)
Is anyone else hoping this album is gonna leak soon... I'm not usually someone who downloads albums as I like going to the shop and buying them but this extra two week wait for no reason is gonna be hell

I don't think that will happen soon, Jon is very clever, his latest albums were leaked 5 or 6 days before the release date. But soon we should have previous of 30 seconds for all songs.


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