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Eveline 11-13-2016 11:51 AM

Those things sound like a fun experience but the ticket prices are definitely not designed for the working class people. I'm just a teacher and I can compare my earnings to others. And even if I could afford it, I'd rather spend it on something more practical. Those premium things are either for the BIGGEST fans or the RICHEST ones or both ;)

Old Joysey 11-13-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1214582)
Those things sound like a fun experience but the ticket prices are definitely not designed for the working class people.

Correct. That's how it's meant to be. Hear it from the horse's mouth (@7:31)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos...uy-an-nfl-team

Eveline 11-13-2016 03:15 PM

Thanks for posting it. It surely isn't for everybody.

Becky 11-13-2016 04:24 PM

Concert prices and VIP packages are topics they have discussed on various shows on Volume. They all come down to the same thing in their conclusions. People don't pay for music anymore, so ticket prices have skyrocketed in all avenues. Club shows that used to cost $3-4 cost $30-40. Some bands offer packages that include meeting one, two, all, or combinations of band members like Aerosmith.

This is what piracy has done to the music business.

B.J. Always 11-18-2016 01:44 AM

I don't think Jon should be called greedy. He can't help what has happened to the music industry and he doesn't like what had happened to it--The Devil's in Temple and he ain't no friend of mine.

He does a lot of very good charity work which is badly needed.

faith1985 11-18-2016 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by B.J. Always (Post 1215033)
I don't think Jon should be called greedy. He can't help what has happened to the music industry and he doesn't like what had happened to it--The Devil's in Temple and he ain't no friend of mine.

He does a lot of very good charity work which is badly needed.

He mostly complains about how the record company has treated him. Apart from a few big bands, most artist's ticket prices fall in the range of 40-120 (Coldplay 90-120, Mumford and Sons around 70-80) These ranges I understand. Bon Jovi have a business model where they serve the middle-aged customer with a higher income best. It is not rock n roll, but neither are Bon Jovi. As an American, wealth equals value. Complaining about the evil record company is one thing, ticket prices are another.And yes Jon IS greedy because -newsflash:

His assets in the Soul Foundation are around 2 million but he was able to bid on an nfl team where he at least offered 100 million. 2 million is pocket money PLUS he crowdfounded his second restaurant/pantry.......HE IS GREEDY.

Captain_jovi 11-18-2016 09:54 PM

Because he would potentially spend more on the nfl team than the soul kitchen doesn't mean he's greedy at all actually. What does the NFL team have to do with any of this?

faith1985 11-19-2016 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1215110)
Because he would potentially spend more on the nfl team than the soul kitchen doesn't mean he's greedy at all actually. What does the NFL team have to do with any of this?

I was talking about the whole SF and the fact that Jon uses it a lot for his propaganda. The fact that he wants to spent 100 or more on a football team whereas he spends only a little portion (keep in mind the money is only partly his), while the media and his worshippers celebrate him for being such a philantropiic guy, is ridiculous. Jon talks so much about how much he wants to solve hunger in the States and every little business of his supports this cause, I expected a lot more from him. If I am serious about helping people I would spend A LOT more on my causes. Even I spend more money and maybe even more time on helping others and you dont see me showing off with my work.

His 'good-guy-act' makes people to spend even more money on him and 'his vision' whatever that vision might be.

Captain_jovi 11-19-2016 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1215141)
I was talking about the whole SF and the fact that Jon uses it a lot for his propaganda. The fact that he wants to spent 100 or more on a football team whereas he spends only a little portion (keep in mind the money is only partly his), while the media and his worshippers celebrate him for being such a philantropiic guy, is ridiculous. Jon talks so much about how much he wants to solve hunger in the States and every little business of his supports this cause, I expected a lot more from him. If I am serious about helping people I would spend A LOT more on my causes. Even I spend more money and maybe even more time on helping others and you dont see me showing off with my work.

His 'good-guy-act' makes people to spend even more money on him and 'his vision' whatever that vision might be.

Your mad because he's not doing more because you spend more of your money than he spends his own? I'm trying to wrap my head around your issue here. We don't know how much he spends and doesn't publicize. We don't know those inner workings. It could be a lot, it could be a little, I just don't understand your issue. Does it have anything to do with your falling out with the SF, ever since that post you've been really bitter towards the band and especially the SF. I guess I don't get it.

faith1985 11-19-2016 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1215144)
Your mad because he's not doing more because you spend more of your money than he spends his own? I'm trying to wrap my head around your issue here. We don't know how much he spends and doesn't publicize. We don't know those inner workings. It could be a lot, it could be a little, I just don't understand your issue. Does it have anything to do with your falling out with the SF, ever since that post you've been really bitter towards the band and especially the SF. I guess I don't get it.

the JBJ Soul Foundation financials are public, as are Jon's working hours (10 per week) I dont care how much someone does for others or doesnt.What I dislike is when people flatter themselves with it and blow it out of proportion. I have always hated it when entertainers used their charity work for their ego and promotion.
Regarding the SK:I also said that there where other things I dont want to talk about but what is clear is that they constantly say that they dont want Jovi fans to volunteer there and yet the first thing the manager of this place told me was that he is a big buddy of Jon's, Jon shows up for big events and uses his fans for crowdfounding.For me this is business,opportunity and the opposite of integrity.
Many things they have done there apart from the Pay it forward thing has been done by the charity place located around the corner from SK aka Lunch Break on an even bigger scale, yet Jon pretends like he invented the whole thing...
You dont need to get my opinion and reasons behind it.

What is most important: For me,the tickets are overpriced for the quality of this band.I dont like the new songs because they sound boring to me and some of the lyrics are too cheesy and unbelievable.
The lyrics are more cliched than ever for me and aimed at a certain audience (mostly)
As I said before, Bon Jovi havent done anything purely for the fans without any calculation but Jon and his family are very eager to use the Bon Jovi fans to sell their pasta sauce, get people to pay for his charity and even offer overpriced clothing to make money. I am not loyal to brands and the worst thing any musician can do is to run it as a business. For me that let to even more soulless music. But there are other artists and I dont really miss Bon Jovi since it is not a band anymore(at least to me)


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