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Rdkopper 10-30-2016 12:58 AM

The above was my outlet for introducing this into this thread... I guess Bobby really is on the outs... Anyone know who this guy is? And does this mean that the KOS is done too?


Old Joysey 10-30-2016 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1212557)
The above was my outlet for introducing this into this thread... I guess Bobby really is on the outs... Anyone know who this guy is?

Yes, I do. :mrgreen:

Rdkopper 10-30-2016 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1212558)
Yes, I do. :mrgreen:

And The Circle is complete!!!

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symbeline 10-30-2016 01:13 AM

Touch of Grey is not what I imagined at all.

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1212443)
Probably because the album is so personal and this one is more socially conscious. It would have been a better fit for What About Now. I don't think it's about a politician but about people in general being agents of change. But this is exactly the kind of song that's been getting a lot of backlash in general for the last few years. This one may be as genuine as can be, but it fits the vein of songs like WAN that sounded trite.

This.

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Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1212453)
It's not a terrible song, and I like the colour analogies in the lyric, but it's a very post-2000 generic song. If it were an actual track on the album it wouldn't be a massive issue IMO, only because the rest of the album isn't like this at all. Had it been on WAN/HAND/Bounce etc, it would've been another infuriating track of the same old same old.

And this.

It's not the type of song I like and I'm happy I didn't pay extra for this track only, but I'm also glad I gave it a chance and I didn't stop after the first few moments like I would have in the past with similar songs. It got much better. I actually like the song a lot but the lyrics are very heavy handed and that's what drove me away from the band in the first place. The patronizing universal social themes to educate the fans in the trials and tribulations of the middle class. I know, I read the newspapers, I live that life, I want to listen to good songs not a lecture on social conscience lol

But this one gets a pass. In part because it's track 18 in an extremely solid albums and at this point they could have We Got It Going On and I would go "okay, don't care, it's statistically impossible to have a 100% perfect album". Also because this seems a well thought song that has pretty good vocals and gets pretty cool towards the end. Which means they probably didn't record whatever they had in the first place and gave it a distinct personality.

One thing all the new songs have in common is that you can see they put the extra effort in them, even the bonus tracks, whether you like them or not. The bonus tracks are obviously not simple demos. They are all different styles but there are also common themes. And they don't sound lazily created in 5 minutes to fill in a deluxe edition. After HAND almost all the songs lacked energy (not talking about guitars), both album tracks and the few bonus we got. Decent lyrics got drowned by a flat delivery and/or unispiring music in most of them. The "sense" of energy was like a fake last minute addition: some autotune to give more punch to a chorus, short solos to justify having a guitarist, a few tricks to give the illusion of surprise... they didn't sound like they came from an organic process. I know many won't agree and I can't really give a scientific explanation, that's just how I felt after a few listens and why the albums never really stayed with me.

Anyway, thanks a lot newikov. For some strange reason this is the song I was waiting for the most!

Old Joysey 10-30-2016 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1212559)
And The Circle is complete!!!

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I answered your question.
Not my fault if the most knownothing whatever can't recognize a musician Jon has been hiring for years for his side projects.
I'll give you a hint: he used to be seen playing another instrument when Bobby was around.

nikos greece 10-30-2016 01:29 AM

https://youtu.be/FdUtwyLw0CU

noticable improvement from jon, nice vocals for acoustic rendition...

Rdkopper 10-30-2016 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1212563)
I answered your question.
Not my fault if the most knownothing whatever can't recognize a musician Jon has been hiring for years for his side projects.
I'll give you a hint: he used to be seen playing another instrument when Bobby was around.

If you are thinking of Kurt Johnson, I'm not sure if that's him...

symbeline 10-30-2016 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1212564)
https://youtu.be/FdUtwyLw0CU

noticable improvement from jon, nice vocals for acoustic rendition...

Well, it's acoustic. He's been sounding solid on acoustic stuff lately.

This LH was pretty decent. But we are still talking about acoustic/easy songs. I'm afraid I'm not very optimistic :-(


Rdkopper 10-30-2016 01:54 AM

Jon on Howard!!!! 2:03 mark


JackieBlue 10-30-2016 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1212556)
You are right there with them...I still think you two would be the perfect couple... A nice little Bon Jovi wedding with Ex-Rhythm Guitar Player Bobby Banderia serenading you two down the isle...

I seriously hope that wasn't supposed to be an insult because I'd actually consider myself to be in good company. :)

But I'm not at all sure about your whole wedding idea. First, Old Joysey's wife would probably have an objection to that. Second, while I have no problem with Bobby as a guitarist, if I were given a choice, I'm pretty sure my vote would go to a different ex-JBJ 'sidekick'... ;)

Old Joysey 10-30-2016 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1212565)
If you are thinking of Kurt Johnson, I'm not sure if that's him...

I'm not thinking, I know. Like Bobby, he has his own band and plays the Jersey Circuit as a solo act or with his trio or with the KoS or with Bobby who's a friend. He'll be playing at Bobby's Hope Concert 9 as well. That's why you can't know him, you despise working musicians (sidekicks) so much, there's no way you'd pay attention to him. So why do you want to know his name at all?


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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1212568)
I seriously hope that wasn't supposed to be an insult because I'd actually consider myself to be in good company. :)

But I'm not at all sure about your whole wedding idea. First, Old Joysey's wife would probably have an objection to that. Second, while I have no problem with Bobby as a guitarist, if I were given a choice, I'm pretty sure my vote would go to a different ex-JBJ 'sidekick'... ;)

Oh c'mon! Once upon a time, a long time ago, you wanted to marry a thread! :lol:

rolo_tomachi 10-30-2016 02:31 AM

touch of grey is a rip off black eyes pears song, where is the love?

mmuhahahah!!!!!! :evilbat:

JackieBlue 10-30-2016 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1212572)
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Oh c'mon! Once upon a time, a long time ago, you wanted to marry a thread! :lol:

Let's not get carried away, now. I'm pretty sure it was just one post; not the entire thread. I do have some discretion, y'know! :cool:

DestinationJovi 10-30-2016 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1212572)
I'm not thinking, I know. Like Bobby, he has his own band and plays the Jersey Circuit as a solo act or with his trio or with the KoS or with Bobby who's a friend. He'll be playing at Bobby's Hope Concert 9 as well. That's why you can't know him, you despise working musicians (sidekicks) so much, there's no way you'd pay attention to him. So why do you want to know his name at all?

It was Carl Gentry.

Old Joysey 10-30-2016 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1212580)
Let's not get carried away, now. I'm pretty sure it was just one post; not the entire thread. I do have some discretion, y'know! :cool:

Oh yeah, right, my bad, you're not the JT version of Janis Joplin! My memory, ya know, old age, red red wine, sleepless nights because of some of my fav'Joysey Boys... yada yada... just when I thought I was out and off to bed, they pulled me back in! Can I get a witness on repeat and can't stop laughing! (cf the other thread. London calling). :cool:

Old Joysey 10-30-2016 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1212582)
It was Carl Gentry.

Yep! You win!
https://twitter.com/carlgentry/with_replies

Rdkopper 10-30-2016 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1212584)

Wow!!!! I can say so much right now but I'll be the better person!!!

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DryCounty 10-30-2016 03:48 AM

I must have missed this completely, but where has it been said that there will be another extra bonus track on Tidal? Great news if it's true.

ezearis 10-30-2016 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1212587)
I must have missed this completely, but where has it been said that there will be another extra bonus track on Tidal? Great news if it's true.

https://twitter.com/TIDALHiFi/status/788186610194087936

rosa3 10-30-2016 05:54 AM

This is pretty good news http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3...=OAQGoDwKT&s=1

mike1990 10-30-2016 07:06 AM

Is it me, or does Touch of Grey have a little bit of a Lost Highway vibe?

ezearis 10-30-2016 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mike1990 (Post 1212594)
Is it me, or does Touch of Grey have a little bit of a Lost Highway vibe?

It certainly has it as sounds really country-influenced to me. Also, Brett James co-wrote Till We Ain't Strangers Anymore.

Thomas S 10-30-2016 08:45 AM

Another interview here, this one's in Germany.

PanosBonJovi 10-30-2016 02:25 PM

If it had a different approach on production, it'd be Bon Jovi's finest album since These Days. Easy.

Other than that, songs included in Deluxe Edition (JP) are stunningly amazing and it's too bad they are left out. Pure masterpieces, amazingly written.

Definitely gonna buy this album.

Touch of Grey? Drive U Home? Pure magic. Should be included in the album..

bjcrazycpa 10-30-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1212437)
Thanks so much for the preview. I have 2 different copies of this record ordered and I'm waiting (not very patiently) for them.

Finally got a chance to listen to Touch Of Grey. I like it but agree it wouldn't have fit on THINFS. Sounds like a soundtrack song to me and has a Goo Goo Dolls vibe which isn't a bad thing as I like them.

Dave88 10-30-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1212578)
After hearing the real deal I still think the mixing has some issues, but songs like I Will Drive You Home become even more great. Also, been wondering if the extra DVD of the japanese edition will be the Tidal streaming?

Nope, I posted the content of the DVD a while back:

http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/ne...st1206876.html

Dave88 10-30-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1212587)
I must have missed this completely, but where has it been said that there will be another extra bonus track on Tidal? Great news if it's true.

I'm ready to bet the "Tidal exclusive track" is just a live version of THINFS.

rolo_tomachi 10-30-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1212636)
I'm ready to bet the "Tidal exclusive track" is just a live version of THINFS.

It would be a disappointment, as all the show is in tidal.

hackster73 10-30-2016 05:13 PM

https://youtu.be/9fsmN-JM1p4

A snippet of touch of grey. Look a bit closer if you want more!

Rdkopper 10-30-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hackster73 (Post 1212640)
https://youtu.be/9fsmN-JM1p4

A snippet of touch of grey. Look a bit closer if you want more!

In short... the link to download the song is included in the description...

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Rdkopper 10-30-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1212636)
I'm ready to bet the "Tidal exclusive track" is just a live version of THINFS.

That's typical Bon Jovi fashion but I give Tidal a little more credit than that... They know people recorded the stream and have all that already...

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jimmyjovi89 10-30-2016 05:34 PM

Hey. Guys it says in that link you need a decryption key

rolo_tomachi 10-30-2016 05:45 PM

I think 'Color Me In' is the Bonus track 19 .

Color Me In was a Japanese bonus track which was later withdrawn, so I guess it could be because Tidal had this exclusive bonus.

Jeeper 10-30-2016 05:48 PM

I really wish I'd had enough self control to wait for Friday to listen to the album for the first time. I'm still looking forward to it, to read the notes and lyrics etc.


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LarryBJ 10-30-2016 05:49 PM

How will 'Rage of Angels' be available?

hchb2000 10-30-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1990 (Post 1212594)
Is it me, or does Touch of Grey have a little bit of a Lost Highway vibe?

It sure does, there is something about it that reminds me of One Step Closer... the guitar i guess...

Santa Fe 10-30-2016 06:31 PM

I thought that Touch of Grey would be better:confused:

It's my faith 10-30-2016 07:21 PM

The intro of Touch of Grey: Waaake me uuup when September eeends!

Bleeding Purist 10-30-2016 07:26 PM

Target just shipped my copy of the album! :D

bjcrazycpa 10-30-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1212663)
Target just shipped my copy of the album! :D



Oh nice!! Hope mine ships too!!


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