Jon sounds so much better in this THINFS perfomance than the 4 promo shows and the Ellen performance

Ive just listened to KTF and to tell you the truth,Jons voice is better than I was expecting.
Its not as in 2013 but is better than in 2015
I remember KTF from Israel 15 at was nothing but pathetic
The band sounds more rehearsed and with more energy
I think with more shows Jons voice could improve to a better level

Do not like the intro of Prayer with Phil X.:mad:

I must say that they sound mostly great on what I've heard until now... well, if you don't count Jon's voice.

But as already stated by Xavi, it was better in 2015. Actually, I was a little bit surprised about how well he sang some certain difficult parts (while still failing at others, of course). But I think Jon is really doing something for his voice right now and if that kind of progress continues until February, then the THINFS tour performances will be quite good.

However, I'm still waiting for more recordings. Had no chance to record something or to even watch, so I'm just hoping for the best on this front :)

band sound great,Jon sound decent and he has 2 months to get even better shape of his voice,new songs sound cool and with this new guy Everet it is great,KTF is awesome because Shanks is better player than Bobby or Mat,maybe we will get tour that is great by playing and average by Jon singing at least!

If Jon sounds that much better on the new stuff live, then the writing and recording of This House Is Not For Sale is even more impressive. Played to his "strengths."


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The YeYeYeeeee part before the solo is pretty good.

I'll post the link in a few minutes...

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Here it is:
https://mega.nz/#F!A5Y3mBiL!dNQUTCGfkFUDuef2ZWLpSw

Jon does sound a bit better, you can tell he worked on it. Problem is, that's going from "abysmal" to "embarrasing" and he would need to take 5 more incremental steps to reach "almost satisfactory" (or 2013) level.

That 'yeah yeah yeah" part before the KTF solo he actually nailed! If I only heard those 3 seconds I wouldn't have believed its from 2016.

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There's no such thing as "playing to strengths". They just recorded it in a lower (and vocally more comfortable) key.

listening to ktf nice solos...thnx for sharing...

there is truth to playing to your strengths...when all your career you have learnt to express yourself in a certain way, making dynamic performances its harder to find great melodies all of sudden without reinvending yourself.

Thansk for sharing :) Noticed that there is some conversion going on. I will try to upload the digital capture in full at youtube later on.

Thanks Rdkopper!! Listening to bits and pieces atm.

The first verse of Wanted is such a shout fest but at least Jon is going for it all the way and not trying to dodge/lower any notes.

Bad Medicine sounds about the same as the 4 THINFS shows. So the improvement in Jon's vocals is still VERY incremental.

And the high notes before the Prayer solo are totally playbacked (with Jon shouting on top of it) just like during the 2015 mini tour. I wouldn't be shocked if they do this during other more prominent higher parts (e.g. Bad Name hook).

Speaking of Bad Name, Jon actually tried to go high during "and you PLAY your game" part - first time since '08? The result was as expected, however.

Thanks so much... what do you mean by Conversion Going On???

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You have not captured the digital stream itself. You soundcard has converted it to analog sound and then recorded that sound. If you listen to KTF on YouTube you will hear that it is much cleaner.

I used Audacity... how do I correct that going forward

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This just shows how much the band have declined in the past few years.

KTF should be performed with power and precision. This sounds like a garage band. Jon's voice has zero power. The bongos don't fit, Phil X doesn't play the solo correctly and it ends with more weak soloing.

If this is the standard fans are accepting these days then it's a sad day for rock music.

Anyone knows who played lead guitar on Bad Name? Bobby used to do both the intro and the main solo. So I wonder if Shanks or Phil X are doing it now?

Wow. That KTF is unlistenable.

I'm really loving the new album. I'm playing it twice every day on average.

Maybe it's time to drop some of the old stuff and focus on the post 2000 stuff?

Shanks does https://www.facebook.com/PhilXFanClu...6947628033768/


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Bloody hell, thanks for the share David. Jon sounds like he's farting in the microphone, he sounded way better in London.

Looks like Axl Rose and Steven Tyler are getting my money next year.

Ummmmm....
No???

The KTF ending is the same they used to do in 2013. Nothing new, except that we don't have to hear the awful solos of Bobby B.

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Jon sounds embarrassingly terrible . I wont be paying to see Bon jovi ever again . Though i love the new stuff .

Yep. There is less than zero energy left to his vocals, unfortunately.

Thanks a lot! I'm listening right now and enjoying it :o

Some thoughts:

On a scale from zero to ten, with the 2013 European leg being a 10, the THINFS promo shows a 5 and the 2015 mini-tour being 0, this was an easy 6. YGLABN sounded really good but like that Runaway from a few weeks ago it’s a bit of a mess, as if Jon is trying different approaches in the same song and not all of them are working. Didn’t like the backing vocals on BTBMB sounded like a pub band. Didn’t like how the song sounded at all. Some really bad vocals.

OMG we have a new song!! Wanted Dead or Alive! Sounds pretty decent, I might like it ;)

KTF was very good vocally (remember the scale I put at the beginning of the post, so I don’t have to type a disclaimer). There was even some aggression.

Prayer was a mess though. A terrible off-key shouting mess. The ending was ok, I guess.

The THINFS ones were solid, but that’s to be expected since they are the *easy* ones. Knockout was a little bit slow, or maybe I was expecting more energy. Ghost was the best version so far, the delivery was too flat in the promo shows and here it’s… well better, but still nowhere as good as the album version, needs 100% more passion. The solo was pretty bad though. I guess Shanks sounds better live than Bobby B. but I don’t like his playing. Love love love looooove Roller Coaster, and the prize for the best THINFS song live goes to…. BAT!

Didn’t listen to LH, IML, WSYCGH, WIGO and Bad MX. Couldn’t care less how they sound.

Well, if this is how Jon is going to sound this tour, it’s ok, it’ll sound better with some thousand screaming fans so I’ll probably buy some tickets. It’s clear he’s making an effort instead of giving half-assed performances. He should have done it earlier, but I’m not going to bitch about it anymore, I didn’t spend a cent when I felt they didn’t deserve it, so all is good.

What’s up with the shouting anyway? Isn’t Jon getting vocal lessons? Because shouting is going to **** his voice real fast

Really? Not doubting you, but I remember Jon struggling a lot and basically shouting the whole song. I really don't want to listen again to any KTF from the past 3 years to compare, but I distinctly remember my ears bleeding several times and here it was quite pleasant :p

Jon can't get better than the few decent performances from 2013. That's fine by me, I never thought he sounded horrible when he sounded decent in that tour.

he is decent here,only problem is that he is not constant decent all the time but most of time he is,KTF is very good,even cool with Everet part,this is gonna be better after couple of shows,I really dont bother with his voice,its gonna be better for sure!

Yep. Tyler and Rose are still capable of singing their back catalogue and don't appear glued to one spot.

Yes, it pretty much is unlistenable, though the band sounds tight.

Thanks Rdkopper for sharing the show! Well, I'm listening and it sounds pretty good. Sure, on some songs Jon sounds like he's about ready to cough up a huge phelgm that's been bothering him for a week but he sounds really good on others and there are a lot of bright spots here both in terms of how he is singing the songs and how he's reaching for the notes. I still think the guitars (namely Phils) should be turned up more, there's energy throughout the performances and a clear effort has been put here and come tour time I think we'll be about ready for another tour DVD 8)

Guns and Roses 2016 in Philly was probably one of the best concerts I've ever been to in my entire life...

If Steven Tyler and Axl Rose can still sing those high notes like they did in the 80s and 90s, then good for them, God bless them for being able to do that, but Jon Bon Jovi is not Steven Tyler or Axl Rose, why do you guys keep comparing all the time with the voices? Everyone is different, there not the same style or the same vocal range, I think Jon's voice has changed and he knows it, he is trying to work with what he's got now, sometimes it works and sometimes maybe it doesn't, but to keep complaining and comparing Jon's voice with other musicians is just silly and unfair, IMO. Just let Jon Bon Jovi be Jon Bon Jovi, and just be happy he is still performing, maybe not to your expectations or satisfaction, but he is out there working hard, cut him some slack!

Haven't listened to any of it yet but the general consensus seems to be that Jon can't sing the back catalogue of hits any more. That's a big problem. Fans expect a rock show with all the classics.

Bon Jovi doing Runaway Tours will be the next step.


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Thanks! :)

I saw GNR in 91 - Theyll never top that gig. Amazing.
2nd best gig ever - after Jovi MK Bowl 93