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efpg0708 02-14-2017 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gabriele (Post 1218212)
https://youtu.be/BQC9poqmqvA

This Prayer is terrible

He clearly uses the playback track here (before the solo).

B.J. Always 02-14-2017 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1218238)
He should quit singing any high parts. The crowds can do it for him. Could he sing the verses in a slightly lower key?

I have wondered about an adjustment in the key of the song myself. I know songs can be keyed down because it is done by people singing the U.S. National Anthem which was written at a ridiculously high key level.

DryCounty 02-14-2017 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by B.J. Always (Post 1218240)
I have wondered about an adjustment in the key of the song myself. I know songs can be keyed down because it is done by people singing the U.S. National Anthem which was written at a ridiculously high key level.

Adjusting the key for Prayer would be a problem as they use studio backing tracks in the choruses. Same thing goes for It's My Life, Have a Nice Day and possibly some more. Unless they decided to go in and re-record backing tracks for Prayer in a studio 2017 it won't happen.

Edit: After a second thought it struck me that they managed to keep the backing tracks that were recorded in E for live performances in Eb, so maybe it would be possible.

rosa3 02-14-2017 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1218230)
And now there are official recordings and yes Jon sounds like shit. Honestly you must be deaf or a backstager 😊.

No I don't have deaf ears and I am not a backstager. I just get sick and tired of the whining complaining of Jon's voice, simple solution, if u don't like his voice no more, then don't listen to the youtube or facebook videos anymore! And I find it insulting that you all hear would criticize someone or to dictate to an artist who has been in the music industry for 30 years how to run his show, how to sing, what to sing, etc. What have you guys done lately? Look of course his voice is not what it use to be, and PLEASE for the love of God don't bring up other artists that have been around longer than Jon and still have "good voices" or can still carry high notes, that is them, good for them, there are not Jon and Jon is not them. So just stop whining and move on. BTW, I believe more the people on twitter who actually tweet from the shows personally, because they are actually there, seeing and hearing everything, all u guys have is YouTube and facebook to rely on, not a bunch of trolls that lurk occasionally here just to criticize Jon. I see these names that come out of nowhere and just spew hate, very sad.

efpg0708 02-14-2017 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1218242)
No I don't have deaf ears and I am not a backstager. I just get sick and tired of the whining complaining of Jon's voice, simple solution, if u don't like his voice no more, then don't listen to the youtube or facebook videos anymore! And I find it insulting that you all hear would criticize someone or to dictate to an artist who has been in the music industry for 30 years how to run his show, how to sing, what to sing, etc. What have you guys done lately? Look of course his voice is not what it use to be, and PLEASE for the love of God don't bring up other artists that have been around longer than Jon and still have "good voices" or can still carry high notes, that is them, good for them, there are not Jon and Jon is not them. So just stop whining and move on. BTW, I believe more the people on twitter who actually tweet from the shows personally, because they are actually there, seeing and hearing everything, all u guys have is YouTube and facebook to rely on, not a bunch of trolls that lurk occasionally here just to criticize Jon. I see these names that come out of nowhere and just spew hate, very sad.

According to your theory, if we don't like Jon's voice anymore, we should not watch videos or hear audios of him singing anymore. Therefore, if you don't like to read negative comments about his vocals, which is something completely normal and acceptable on a Bon Jovi diehard board, simply don't read them anymore !

DestinationJovi 02-14-2017 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1218242)
No I don't have deaf ears and I am not a backstager. I just get sick and tired of the whining complaining of Jon's voice, simple solution, if u don't like his voice no more, then don't listen to the youtube or facebook videos anymore! And I find it insulting that you all hear would criticize someone or to dictate to an artist who has been in the music industry for 30 years how to run his show, how to sing, what to sing, etc. What have you guys done lately? Look of course his voice is not what it use to be, and PLEASE for the love of God don't bring up other artists that have been around longer than Jon and still have "good voices" or can still carry high notes, that is them, good for them, there are not Jon and Jon is not them. So just stop whining and move on. BTW, I believe more the people on twitter who actually tweet from the shows personally, because they are actually there, seeing and hearing everything, all u guys have is YouTube and facebook to rely on, not a bunch of trolls that lurk occasionally here just to criticize Jon. I see these names that come out of nowhere and just spew hate, very sad.

I was at the show.

Here's the thing.. being surrounded by fans who are singing along, in addition to you possibly also singing along, and feeling the energy of the live performance, all mask how bad Jon actually sounds in the moment.

I noticed a few notes he couldn't reach but I honestly didn't realize how bad it was until I saw video.

Live, as in being there live - not just listening to a live stream, it was pretty damn good.

On video, not so much.

So I completely get the vast discrepancy.

But the attacking and putting down of those who have a different opinion than you is really getting old.

Captmorgs 02-14-2017 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1218246)
I was at the show.



Here's the thing.. being surrounded by fans who are singing along, in addition to you possibly also singing along, and feeling the energy of the live performance, all mask how bad Jon actually sounds in the moment.



I noticed a few notes he couldn't reach but I honestly didn't realize how bad it was until I saw video.



Live, as in being there live - not just listening to a live stream, it was pretty damn good.



On video, not so much.



So I completely get the vast discrepancy.



But the attacking and putting down of those who have a different opinion than you is really getting old.



Well said about the difference between being there in person and listening via recording. I'm looking forward to my show in Las Vegas.


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Thomas S 02-14-2017 06:12 AM

Is there anybody who bought the MP3/FLAC recording of the show?

angelsambo 02-14-2017 10:09 AM

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jovifan93 02-14-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gabriele (Post 1218212)
https://youtu.be/BQC9poqmqvA

This Prayer is terrible

While that video is no longer available, judging from another one, I can't see what's *that* terrible or different from the first two shows? Any specific parts?

And concerning the backing tracks: anything can be pitch-shifted, and a half step or even a whole step isn't that hard and barely noticeable...


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