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Savvi 02-15-2017 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1218340)
1. This House Is Not For Sale

Heather Beaver is sending live
https://www.facebook.com/heather.bea...?hc_ref=SEARCH

Cheers for that. I'm swamped at work so I'll be taking a bit of a back seat for this one.

24Roses 02-15-2017 03:34 AM

Uh. For once as I just wish someone would do the entire concert live.

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 03:38 AM

you give love

https://www.facebook.com/les.saland?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

DryCounty 02-15-2017 03:38 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name

Don't know if anything was played between Bad Name and Knockout, probably not

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 03:40 AM

born to be my baby

https://www.facebook.com/tdubebuonanno?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

DryCounty 02-15-2017 03:41 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby

Kathleen 02-15-2017 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _KaMi_ (Post 1218346)

How are you finding these? I am searching like crazy.

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1218348)
How are you finding these? I am searching like crazy.

When the first stopped it took me to a map in facebook to search for more livestreams. I'm searching on the map around Tampa

Now We weren't born to follow

DryCounty 02-15-2017 03:46 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow

Kathleen 02-15-2017 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _KaMi_ (Post 1218349)
When the first stopped it took me to a map in facebook to search for more livestreams. I'm searching on the map around Tampa

Now We weren't born to follow

Ah - got it - thanks. I'm also searching Twitter and not getting much.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1218348)
How are you finding these? I am searching like crazy.

Remember the PBP-days when the best we could hope for was a decent twitter acount typing what songs were played... :lol::lol:

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 03:50 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway

jesyjames 02-15-2017 03:51 AM

I was reading an interview from Adam Clayton about the upcoming Joshua Tree tour from U2 and he made this comment that stuck with me: "Red Hill Mining Town was never played live during that period. It fell into the midtempo malaise and I think we can now figure out ways to get around that." --- I wish Jon would figure out that stringing 5 songs together that fall into the "midtempo malaise" absolutely kills the concert...

Kathleen 02-15-2017 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1218352)
Remember the PBP-days when the best we could hope for was a decent twitter acount typing what songs were played... :lol::lol:

Not that long ago either :D

DestinationJovi 02-15-2017 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24Roses (Post 1218343)
Uh. For once as I just wish someone would do the entire concert live.

I appreciate the live streams too, but do you have any idea how much it sucks to hold a phone up for an extended period of time simply for others' viewing pleasure?

Be grateful for what we get.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 03:56 AM

Band introduction after song 5. Quite early isn't it?

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 03:57 AM

I can't stand the woman from the live stream -.-
She wants to hear living on a prayer or shot through the heart (I think she means bad name and it was already played -.-)

DestinationJovi 02-15-2017 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1218352)
Remember the PBP-days when the best we could hope for was a decent twitter acount typing what songs were played... :lol::lol:

In the real old days it was via a phone call listening to the show.

Kathleen 02-15-2017 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _KaMi_ (Post 1218358)
I can't stand the woman from the live stream -.-
She wants to hear living on a prayer or shot through the heart (I think she means bad name and it was already played -.-)

Exactly the sort of people I don't want sitting near me LOL

24Roses 02-15-2017 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1218356)
I appreciate the live streams too, but do you have any idea how much it sucks to hold a phone up for an extended period of time simply for others' viewing pleasure?

Be grateful for what we get.

Oh I know. :) I'm just saying that once I get settled in or am waiting for the song I want to hear it always stops!

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 04:00 AM

rollercoaster

https://www.facebook.com/markjelicks?hc_ref=NEWSFEED


1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Rollercoaster

DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:00 AM

Jon seems to be in a really good mood. And Roller Coaster got quite a lot of cheering when introduced.

Kathleen 02-15-2017 04:00 AM

Rollercoaster

Well that's not the link you want.

DestinationJovi 02-15-2017 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1218357)
Band introduction after song 5. Quite early isn't it?

No, he does it in bits spreading the intros out a couple at a time.

At least that's what he did in Ft Lauderdale.

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 04:02 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Rollercoaster
8. Work For The Working Man

DestinationJovi 02-15-2017 04:04 AM

Copy/Paste

Again :rolleyes:

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 04:06 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Rollercoaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead

united17 02-15-2017 04:07 AM

Working Man after Rollercoaster? That's one way to kill the mood.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:15 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Rollercoaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On

Rdkopper 02-15-2017 04:17 AM

I don't understand why people get so in a frenzy over the copy and paste set lists in different cities... They did that throughout the 80s and no one gave a shit... mainly because most people didn't know because the internet didn't exist... and now in 2017 why would Jon start changing his set lists to appease people on social media... Unless you're following this band from city to city, bitching about repeat set lists in meaningless...

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_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1218370)
1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Rollercoaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On

Where are you watching it?

ok
https://www.facebook.com/cody.buczko...5882554578146/

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Rollercoaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home

DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1218371)
I don't understand why people get so in a frenzy over the copy and paste set lists in different cities... They did that throughout the 80s and no one gave a shit... mainly because most people didn't know because the internet didn't exist... and now in 2017 why would Jon start changing his set lists to appease people on social media... Unless you're following this band from city to city, bitching about repeat set lists in meaningless...

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I wouldn't care if it weren't for the band members bragging about changing up the set list each show. I don't mind bands playing the same set list on a tour, most band do, but then I'd prefer the band not speaking in media about how they mix up the set list every night "to keep it fresh".

DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _KaMi_ (Post 1218372)

I'm watching a guy named Simon Gosling
https://www.facebook.com/buybuyuk?hc_ref=SEARCH

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 04:26 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run

https://www.facebook.com/tdubebuonan...2130400721284/

ticooooooooooo 02-15-2017 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1218371)
I don't understand why people get so in a frenzy over the copy and paste set lists in different cities... They did that throughout the 80s and no one gave a shit... mainly because most people didn't know because the internet didn't exist... and now in 2017 why would Jon start changing his set lists to appease people on social media... Unless you're following this band from city to city, bitching about repeat set lists in meaningless...

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There are many things wrong with a copy and paste setlist. First of all- the reason why it wasn't a problem in the 80s is that he has limited material to draw from. 14 studio albums plus 100,000,000 Bon Jovi Fans later and there's no more excuses. It's lazy. It's nothing to do with appeasing fans on social media- it's that he's got more albums, more songs and should be doing it. Secondly, back in the 80s, there wasn't much of a tradition among big acts to vary setlists- nowadays Bruce Springsteen makes 10-15 changes a night, Pearl Jam change most of their setlist- there is now a culture to vary setlists more than there was 20-30 years ago. Thirdly, both JBJ and David have boasted that they've rehearsed 95 songs and you never hear the same show twice- if you're only going to make one change a night, say nothing- don't go on record and build fans expectations up. Fourthly, Friday's show was in Atlanta, Sunday's in Sunrise and tonight in Tampa- there will be a reasonable amount of people who will be attending multiple shows because they are a (relatively speaking) stones throw away! My brother and sister travel up and down the country when he comes to England and are planning on doing both New York and Toronto in April. Last time he came to England, they saw him in all 4 England shows and Slane Castle... I saw more songs in 2 Bruce Springsteen shows than they did in 5 Bon Jovi shows and it wasn't even that close. You need to cater to all your audience- the die hards and the casuals. Especially when you go on record saying you've rehearsed 95 songs.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:36 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess

DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:42 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar

24Roses 02-15-2017 04:44 AM

Dry County, where did you get your last 2 song info from please?

Kokutetsu101 02-15-2017 04:45 AM

The same old setlist again...
How come they r doing the same thing over and over again...

Rdkopper 02-15-2017 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticooooooooooo (Post 1218376)
There are many things wrong with a copy and paste setlist. First of all- the reason why it wasn't a problem in the 80s is that he has limited material to draw from. 14 studio albums plus 100,000,000 Bon Jovi Fans later and there's no more excuses. It's lazy. It's nothing to do with appeasing fans on social media- it's that he's got more albums, more songs and should be doing it. Secondly, back in the 80s, there wasn't much of a tradition among big acts to vary setlists- nowadays Bruce Springsteen makes 10-15 changes a night, Pearl Jam change most of their setlist- there is now a culture to vary setlists more than there was 20-30 years ago. Thirdly, both JBJ and David have boasted that they've rehearsed 95 songs and you never hear the same show twice- if you're only going to make one change a night, say nothing- don't go on record and build fans expectations up. Fourthly, Friday's show was in Atlanta, Sunday's in Sunrise and tonight in Tampa- there will be a reasonable amount of people who will be attending multiple shows because they are a (relatively speaking) stones throw away! My brother and sister travel up and down the country when he comes to England and are planning on doing both New York and Toronto in April. Last time he came to England, they saw him in all 4 England shows and Slane Castle... I saw more songs in 2 Bruce Springsteen shows than they did in 5 Bon Jovi shows and it wasn't even that close. You need to cater to all your audience- the die hards and the casuals. Especially when you go on record saying you've rehearsed 95 songs.

But you're NOT there... When Jon does 2 nights in the same cities or knows he'll get repeat fans, he'll definitely change it...

Jon's obstacles are obvious and I know most are expecting a miracle but it's not happening... This is the set that Jon has to do to make it though this tour, with this band, to match his backing tracks... I'm not saying that some songs need to go and get replaced but there is nothing wrong with a repeat set list... MOSTLY ALL bands do it....

BTY, they played 18 song sets in the 80s out of about 40 and still neglected some of the best rarities... or played some so minimally...

And I know this might come as a shocker, but Jon is not Springsteen... He's not even a similar artist... so stop comparing them...

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