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DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:48 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple

DestinationJovi 02-15-2017 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticooooooooooo (Post 1218376)
there are many things wrong with a copy and paste setlist. First of all- the reason why it wasn't a problem in the 80s is that he has limited material to draw from. 14 studio albums plus 100,000,000 bon jovi fans later and there's no more excuses. It's lazy. It's nothing to do with appeasing fans on social media- it's that he's got more albums, more songs and should be doing it. Secondly, back in the 80s, there wasn't much of a tradition among big acts to vary setlists- nowadays bruce springsteen makes 10-15 changes a night, pearl jam change most of their setlist- there is now a culture to vary setlists more than there was 20-30 years ago. Thirdly, both jbj and david have boasted that they've rehearsed 95 songs and you never hear the same show twice- if you're only going to make one change a night, say nothing- don't go on record and build fans expectations up. Fourthly, friday's show was in atlanta, sunday's in sunrise and tonight in tampa- there will be a reasonable amount of people who will be attending multiple shows because they are a (relatively speaking) stones throw away! My brother and sister travel up and down the country when he comes to england and are planning on doing both new york and toronto in april. Last time he came to england, they saw him in all 4 england shows and slane castle... I saw more songs in 2 bruce springsteen shows than they did in 5 bon jovi shows and it wasn't even that close. You need to cater to all your audience- the die hards and the casuals. Especially when you go on record saying you've rehearsed 95 songs.

BINGO!

You get it.

Kathleen 02-15-2017 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticooooooooooo (Post 1218376)
There are many things wrong with a copy and paste setlist. First of all- the reason why it wasn't a problem in the 80s is that he has limited material to draw from. 14 studio albums plus 100,000,000 Bon Jovi Fans later and there's no more excuses. It's lazy. It's nothing to do with appeasing fans on social media- it's that he's got more albums, more songs and should be doing it. Secondly, back in the 80s, there wasn't much of a tradition among big acts to vary setlists- nowadays Bruce Springsteen makes 10-15 changes a night, Pearl Jam change most of their setlist- there is now a culture to vary setlists more than there was 20-30 years ago. Thirdly, both JBJ and David have boasted that they've rehearsed 95 songs and you never hear the same show twice- if you're only going to make one change a night, say nothing- don't go on record and build fans expectations up. Fourthly, Friday's show was in Atlanta, Sunday's in Sunrise and tonight in Tampa- there will be a reasonable amount of people who will be attending multiple shows because they are a (relatively speaking) stones throw away! My brother and sister travel up and down the country when he comes to England and are planning on doing both New York and Toronto in April. Last time he came to England, they saw him in all 4 England shows and Slane Castle... I saw more songs in 2 Bruce Springsteen shows than they did in 5 Bon Jovi shows and it wasn't even that close. You need to cater to all your audience- the die hards and the casuals. Especially when you go on record saying you've rehearsed 95 songs.

I couldn't agree with you more. I have 3 shows this tour and I'm already regretting it.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:52 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple
17. Lay Your Hands On Me

I hope they change the encore at least to fit the day it is. Even Jon must realize that he has to play at least on big ballad tonight. Scars as the only ballad is not enough tonight.

_KaMi_ 02-15-2017 04:54 AM

https://www.facebook.com/GiMayen/vid...2441082962628/

DryCounty 02-15-2017 04:58 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple
17. Lay Your Hands On Me
18. Blood on Blood

DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:05 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple
17. Lay Your Hands On Me
18. Blood on Blood
19. Have a Nice Day
20. Bad Medicine
21. Keep the Faith

Captmorgs 02-15-2017 05:13 AM

Scrolling through the set list quickly, saw your user name Dry County, and freaked out for a minute. [emoji3]


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DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1218393)
Scrolling through the set list quickly, saw your user name Dry County, and freaked out for a minute. [emoji3]


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Lucky thing we don't have users nicknamed Only Lonely, In and Out of Love, If I Was Your Mother then ;)

DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:26 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple
17. Lay Your Hands On Me
18. Blood on Blood
19. Have a Nice Day
20. Bad Medicine
21. Keep the Faith

So that's the main set. Now it's time to see if it's copy paste or if Jon has something extra planned for tonight.

Kathleen 02-15-2017 05:28 AM

Nope - no special song :(

DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:29 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple
17. Lay Your Hands On Me
18. Blood on Blood
19. Have a Nice Day
20. Bad Medicine
21. Keep the Faith
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22. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night

:( :(

Falco 02-15-2017 05:29 AM

I'm sorry but if these shows are being recorded and sold on their website, every night should have a different set list. Sure, keep the opening 4 or 5 songs and the encore, but the middle of the show needs to be mixed up a bit, rotate song, etc.

It worked in the 80s because nobody was keeping track or gave a shit, now with social media people are able to stream shows/watch clips online and what not...Jon is just stubborn and won't get with the times.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:35 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple
17. Lay Your Hands On Me
18. Blood on Blood
19. Have a Nice Day
20. Bad Medicine
21. Keep the Faith
-------------------------------
22. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
23. Wanted Dead or Alive

Sugardrops 02-15-2017 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1218398)
I'm sorry but if these shows are being recorded and sold on their website, every night should have a different set list. Sure, keep the opening 4 or 5 songs and the encore, but the middle of the show needs to be mixed up a bit, rotate song, etc.

Thank you! That is what I've been thinking while sitting here reading the back-and-forth about changing the setlist. You'd think that if they are wanting to sell the recordings they would want people to consider buying more than one. If the sets are EXACTLY the same, it's not going to inspire many people to drop another $35...maybe not even spend it in the first place.

Captmorgs 02-15-2017 05:39 AM

Prayer and good night?


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24Roses 02-15-2017 05:39 AM

Heather Beaver is live again on Facebook.

Falco 02-15-2017 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugardrops (Post 1218400)
Thank you! That is what I've been thinking while sitting here reading the back-and-forth about changing the setlist. You'd think that if they are wanting to sell the recordings they would want people to consider buying more than one. If the sets are EXACTLY the same, it's not going to inspire many people to drop another $35...maybe not even spend it in the first place.

Yup! I'd gladly buy each show if each night promised to have a rarity or two thrown in.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:41 AM

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple
17. Lay Your Hands On Me
18. Blood on Blood
19. Have a Nice Day
20. Bad Medicine
21. Keep the Faith
-------------------------------
22. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
23. Wanted Dead or Alive
24. Prayer

efpg0708 02-15-2017 05:43 AM

Wow ... How I miss the Circle/Greatest Hits tour ...

DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1218406)
Wow ... How I miss the Circle/Greatest Hits tour ...

Count me in... :(

efpg0708 02-15-2017 05:46 AM

They have the new album completely rehearsed to play live ... Why not shake up the new songs ? Born Again Tomorrow, Ghost , All Hail The King ... I simply don't get it.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:48 AM

That's it. No valentine songs

1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. We Weren't Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Work For The Working Man
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Goin' On
11. Who Says You Can't Go Home
12. It's My Life
13. We Don't Run
14. God Bless This Mess
15. Scars on This Guitar
16. The Devil's in the Temple
17. Lay Your Hands On Me
18. Blood on Blood
19. Have a Nice Day
20. Bad Medicine
21. Keep the Faith
-------------------------------
22. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
23. Wanted Dead or Alive
24. Prayer

Kathleen 02-15-2017 05:49 AM

Thanks for all the updates, but too bad about the set list :(

ticooooooooooo 02-15-2017 05:51 AM

Exactly the same as Atlanta, correct? So if there were people who, as a number of Super Fans do, did the three shows in the area- Atlanta, Sunrise and Tampa- they would have heard one different song?

CLEYoungGun21 02-15-2017 05:52 AM

Talk about a vanilla setlist... and possibly a vanilla tour


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Falco 02-15-2017 05:52 AM

Vanilla is definitely flavor of the tour!

Kathleen 02-15-2017 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticooooooooooo (Post 1218411)
Exactly the same as Atlanta, correct? So if there were people who, as a number of Super Fans do, did the three shows in the area- Atlanta, Sunrise and Tampa- they would have heard one different song?

Exactly, and that's just wrong.

DryCounty 02-15-2017 05:53 AM

In three shows they switched Devils in the Temple for NY Day and back to Devil. Hardly sounds like a band that likes to "keep it fresh".

CLEYoungGun21 02-15-2017 06:00 AM

But 95 songs!!!


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efpg0708 02-15-2017 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLEYoungGun21 (Post 1218412)
Talk about a vanilla setlist... and possibly a vanilla tour


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Those Jovi magic moments are long gone ...


DryCounty 02-15-2017 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1218419)

That's just incredibly good. And it doesn't even feel like that long ago. Back then we had a Jon who could nail STBI, nowadays we have a Jon who struggles to sing the chorus of This House Is Not For Sale.

Hey god, tell me what the hell is going on :(

TheOriginalJez 02-15-2017 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLEYoungGun21 (Post 1218418)
But 95 songs!!!


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On ten continents in 250 different countries? I think Dave might be the new Richie... :lol:

rosa3 02-15-2017 06:19 AM

And once again the whining is back! Boy you guys just won't give it up! Face the fact that this is Jon's and the bands tour, there show, period. This whining about a "vanilla" set list makes you sound like a bunch little spoiled kids, and u do sound spoiled, you know why? because you guys just so focused on the past tours, comparing them, and also comparing Jon to other artists and there tours, eg Bruce Springsteen, that you won't be happy or satisfied with anything Jon does because you so used to Jon in past tours, remember that was the past! this is now, and this is how Jon wants to perform his tour. Thisis not Burger King, you can't always have it your way. Can we all just be happy this band is still touring now!

DryCounty 02-15-2017 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1218423)
And once again the whining is back! Boy you guys just won't give it up! Face the fact that this is Jon's and the bands tour, there show, period. This whining about a "vanilla" set list makes you sound like a bunch little spoiled kids, and u do sound spoiled, you know why? because you guys just so focused on the past tours, comparing them, and also comparing Jon to other artists and there tours, eg Bruce Springsteen, that you won't be happy or satisfied with anything Jon does because you so used to Jon in past tours, remember that was the past! this is now, and this is how Jon wants to perform his tour. Thisis not Burger King, you can't always have it your way. Can we all just be happy this band is still touring now!

What's you defence for the fans that bought tickets for multiple nights based on the comments Jon and the band made prior to the tour about changing up the set list each night and having almost 100 songs to choose from?

rosa3 02-15-2017 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1218424)
What's you defence for the fans that bought tickets for multiple nights based on the comments Jon and the band made prior to the tour about changing up the set list each night and having almost 100 songs to choose from?

My defense is that unless Jon personally asks the fans for personal request for songs for their set lists, it is Jon's decision on what song goes in and what songs to not go in, pure and simple. I think the fans are smart enough to know that if they buy multiple tickets, that the chances of songs being repeated on different nights are pretty high, and these fans that buy multiple tickets for different nights have done this before, so this is not the first time they have done this, and if they didn't like the same set lists, they will stop buying multiple shows and just buy for one show, but they still buy multiple shows, so they are happy, and they don't worry or concern themselves with set lists or how Jon's voice is, they don't go to judge or criticize, they go just to have fun, thats all. You know, its funny how you guys here go crazy about set lists and Jon's voice, and I'm sure many of you have been to past shows, but if you guys here attended the shows today with the same attitude you show here, then you guys would be the biggest debbie downers in the world! And would ruin the night for the fans that just want to enjoy the show, regardless of set lists, voice, and show production.

Captain_jovi 02-15-2017 06:52 AM

Rosa, people are allowed to have problems. They don't have to sugar coat everything and you don't have to agree.

CLEYoungGun21 02-15-2017 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1218423)
that you won't be happy or satisfied with anything Jon does because you so used to Jon in past tours, remember that was the past! this is now, and this is how Jon wants to perform his tour. Thisis not Burger King, you can't always have it your way. Can we all just be happy this band is still touring now!


For the record, when Jon pulled out Always the first night I was quite impressed. And I was thrilled to see that they're coming to my city on this tour.

Vettetrax 02-15-2017 07:16 AM

I understand your defending Jon and a part of me agrees with you. But. When it comes down to it, we PAY Jon to entertain us at a concert. That is his sole purpose on that stage. That's the business. The band has it's longevity because of their live shows, they are known for doing it better than most. Its that simple. I was a the Sunrise show and I was not at all impressed with the setlist, I was very sad to hear Tampa got the same, especially on Valentine's Day. Surely Jon's people have heard the feedback from the fans by now, it's a weak setlist. Change some songs... Yes his voice is shot but I don't care that much about that, there's literally dozens of songs in his catalog that are easy on his vocals and would improve the setlist.
Why is he not listening? What does he see in this current setlist that the rest of us don't?

In the end, YES it's his choice, his show.. but there is an obligation to the fans who pay good money. I am eternally grateful they're touring and it was still a kickass show.

Captain_jovi 02-15-2017 07:30 AM

Yup. If he chooses to keep the same non-hits going from tour to tour it's much less of a reason for the die-hards to keep coming back and we have every right to make that point. I don't give a care if the setlists change from show to show, I absolutely care if I'm getting the same songs I got last tour and the tour before and the tour before. Jon picks the setlist and happy with it or not, the diehards are allowed to be unhappy.


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