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Eveline 04-20-2017 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1223841)
Initially it was (as he admitted himself) just "to make some money" and maybe fight the odds. Later on I think he tried to regain his passion for performing.

thank you! :)

Emma​ 04-20-2017 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1223838)
Some folks here suggest Jon having problems with self-confidence and that it affects his voice making it a vicious circle. What psychological issues can the man have then?

I saw an article recently about an opera singer (male) who went through a divorce and other issues in his personal life, and literally one night on stage, he just couldn't sing. His ex wife was also an opera singer with him, and he just could suddenly no longer sing. At all.
It's an interesting read, I can find the article if you're interested ...
Anyway, it took this guy a few months until he could sing again. All psychological.

cqleonardo 04-20-2017 03:12 AM

I will always think the same thing, back in 2013 with all the Richie tension and later Tico's surgery, he started smoking again, he smoked for a lot of years, when you are smoker and you quit and you go through a huge emocional stress, your body just craves nicotine, you may not use it but I think he did. The cigarrettes plus his depression, I think just made him shot his voice, as far as I know, the vocal chords of a singer are like strings on a guitar, if you don't play, they go out of tune, Jon said that he couldn't sing anything for months in one of the Runaway Trips...

Lucky0003 04-20-2017 03:27 AM

I don't know what's caused Jon's voice problems- so many issues going on - but it has to be devastating for him and it took a lot to get back on the stage for the THINFS tour.

I'm sure he feels the struggle when singing and after being such a vocal powerhouse when younger it had to be very frustrating and scary to know it's probably never coming back.

He's not one to give up so who knows what's next??


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rosa3 04-20-2017 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1223838)
Some folks here suggest Jon having problems with self-confidence and that it affects his voice making it a vicious circle. What psychological issues can the man have then?

IDK since you were the one who suggested this, maybe you would know. Seriously, IDK where you guys come with these crazy theories! If Jon had "personal issues" now do u think he would be touring again? From what I have seen on YT, and heard from people here who attended the shows this past tour, he was energetic, happy, having a good time, and the band was playing at its peak.

Panda 04-20-2017 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1223849)
, and the band was playing at its peak.

have all the opinions you want, but this is wrong.

rosa3 04-20-2017 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1223853)
have all the opinions you want, but this is wrong.

So you don't think David, Tico, PhilX, and the rest of the band were not performing up to par?

Captain_jovi 04-20-2017 06:03 AM

They were playing great but to say it's the best the band has ever sounded entirely subjective. It's not something a lot of people will agree with though. At least musically. With vocals it's nothing like it was.

Rdkopper 04-20-2017 06:06 AM

This is so subjective,it's not even debatable...

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Panda 04-20-2017 06:17 AM

Whether you like it or not, there is a math to music. Making it not "completely" subjective.

1) Tico's playing has become less intense, and is playing quieter. This is of course natural due to his age. However, he is no longer at his peak. The volume and intensity of Tico's playing is not subjective.
2) The musicianship and overall integrity of the song have decreased. There is a way more formulic stucture to their music, making it much easier to replicate than normal. Things such as pinch harmonics are missing.
3) Jon's vocals have degraded to the point of him singing off key for a lot of songs. Singing off key is not a "subjective" thing.
4) Incantation of lyrics are worse. Less syllables being sung means parts of the original song is lost. That's not subjective.
5) Complete lack of variation of setlists, even with shows in the same city. This is the worst it has ever been. Again, this is a fact and not subjective.

peak: reach a highest point, either of a specified value or at a specified time.

This is NOT Bon Jovi playing at their peak.


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