Yeah it finished. Surprised that Saturday Night didn't make an appearance nor I Love This Town...

I'm just glad BWC came back, I missed it.

Both Jon and Phil sound ill. Dave and Tico are awesome!! Everette I'm sure has the highest score in the world on 'Just Dance'.....

Jon sounds so weak on the (easy) verses of BOB. It's bizarre.


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I actually don't mind that set list. Nice having blood on blood in the encore. Just thinking if lie to me could work as a regular song... would make a change from the more popular ballads and easier to sing. The distance is another song that should come in to represent bounce.

If these 2 tracks were added to that set list I would take that.

For example


1. This House Is Not For Sale
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. Lost Highway
5. Whole Lot of Leaving
6. Rollercoaster
7. The Distance
8. Sleep When I'm Dead
9. We Got it Going On
10. Who Says
11. It's My Life
12. We Don't Run
13. God Bless This Mess
14. Lie To Me
15. Devil's in the Temple
16. Lay Your Hands On Me
17. We Weren't Born To Follow
18. Have a Nice Day
19. Bad Medicine
20. Keep the Faith

21. Blood on Blood
22. Because We Can
23. Wanted Dead Or Alive
24. Livin On a Prayer

25. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night

For me that makes all the difference and gives plenty to the casuals and also throws some bones to the die hards.

Swapping 2 songs and adding a final song in the encore surely isn't that hard.

I'm going to enjoy the show in Connecticut on April 1 for what it is - The end of the band. Although I like the set lists in regards to the new record, Jon just seems done. I look at Jon on stage and listen to him and compare it to Bruce, Leppard, Metallica....Those guys still got it and are having fun. Jon just looks like he's trying to survive at this point. The whole tour is so anticlimactic. 2 months, and then done. The extra musicians. It just reeks of desperation now.

What's missing for me is a bit of energy. On a lot of it Jon's passable and if that means him standing still then fine but I mean - watch the old shows Jon running around, building up to a big solo richie runs across the stage and jumps into it. Even if Jon's not got the ability to do that now Phil could and should be encouraged to take the spotlight more.

When I saw GnR a few weeks ago Slash and Axl were all over the place, Axl's not what he was but it was entertaining to watch as well as hear. I can't imagine this show in a stadium right now :/

JBJ is definitely sounding weaker already. I don't know what's happening!

What I'm loving is how happy they all seem to be on stage. Nobody can say that JBJ has been on autopilot yet. Every show, he's been smiling, laughing, clapping the guys etc...

What's worrying is the energy from him and his vocals, obviously.

I know it's been spoken about over and over again but it has to be. We are following this band. As fans, we have to be honest.

The set lists are boring. Sure, I'd enjoy it if I was there but I want to wake up and be surprised that they added a song. Even if it's bloody Amen or some shit.

When I went to the THINFS promo show, it didn't bother me that JBJ stood still. I enjoyed the environment and I loved the storytelling part. I thought once the tour comes around that he'd at least move for some songs but every song seems to be him at his mic.

Is it nerves? Is it laziness? I don't know why but he needs to get some sort of movement back.

I'm glad that people who go to the shows enjoy it. As I said, I know I would because it's totally different being there but we are fans on a forum and it's only right we give our opinion on what we see too.

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Nothing special for Nashvile? And still no big ballads? These are alarming signs for the rest of the tour. Jon just keeps dropping whatever special moments he had on night one and replacing with his usual overplayed shit (e.g. Sleep, WLOL). I predict Lay Your Hands is the next one to get dropped.

LYHOM should open the encore with the drum intro. That'd be amazing...

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What still surprises me is that if only Jon farts into the microphone, people will like it. I saw some videos of the last 2 shows and I'm absolutely shocked, he sounds atrocious. I'm also let down of the lack of movement, he looks like a statue. Phil X still has it, rocks out like a maniac and does what he is paid for.

Sad to say, both Bon Jovi and Sambora are dead as a live performance. Very sad day for music.

Yep, the comments section on YouTube is a scary place. You'd think Jon was giving Pavarotti style vocal performances when in reality he sounds like a mouse farting into a megaphone.

I can't think of another band that went from sounding so good to sounding this bad.

There is still too many Backstagers who will defend him no matter what. It is what it is. After pushing his voice many years this is quite logical.

Saw Dream Theater last week in Düsseldorf, James LaBrie was on the same level as JBJ, all over the place and very flat.

Yep it's sad to see and hear but time has caught up with the pair of them. It was the passion and energy that gave Bon Jovi that extra hit. Obviously great songs and performances but they always had something more. I still saw that in 2011 at the show in Hyde Park but since that tour it has been a downward spiral. I am happy to have seen the band many times in their prime.

It's a touring start, and the American audience is not very passionate. I guess Jon does not want to wear down their little voice over by making unnecessary efforts for an ungrateful public.

The shows in California, Philadelphia and NY could bring something new and better though, as they are cities that Jon loves.

It's not backstagers... I just think it's about the rock star, performer, and legacy.... and not just the voice...

People here are obsessed with Jon's voice and judge him like its the X Factor...

I'm somewhere in the middle... yeah, it sucks Jon doesn't sound or write music the way he did until 1996 but that ship has sunk a long time ago for me... Now it's about finding moments of enjoyment... a song here and there or a decent vocal here and there... I'm digging some of the tracks from the past two albums and I think Jon nailed some of the new tracks live...

I don't dwell that Jon doesn't sing Bad Name right became imo, it hasn't sounded good for the past 20 years...

That's where I am currently with this band...



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I half agree with you, but there is something that has changed since Because We Can Tour, it is the energy flow of the show. This makes the show itself, is rather weak. Anyway, I think Jon is booking for the bigger shows, and this first part will be a set-up. My question is, If did he break their voice again on this tour? Will these shows be the best of this tour because it could weaken even more his voice?

The first shows of 2013 were quite acceptable, but something changed 3 months later and Jon's voice shot forever, this could happen again.

Maybe that's Jon's fear, and not wanting to risk it so soon.

His voice isn't the only issue though. He used to be a great showman too. Now he stands at the mic stand and moves his arms around every so often. He's completely changed overall.

Comparing the Jon of 95 and the 2017 Jon is massively unfair but I don't think anyone is doing that. It's the fact he's declined so drastically since 2011 is what has most of us bewildered.

I get what you're saying though and hope you enjoy your show.

Back during the start of the BWC tour the guys here were complaining about having too many ballads in the main set (WITW, Memory, BOR, IBTFY, Amen, and The Fighter with at least 4 or 5 of them appearing on some nights). Now Jon has jerked sharply to the other direction and has only thrown exactly one in the shows so far; he can't seem to find the right balance, or rather, is afraid to further butcher anything. Diamond Ring anyone? Maybe it's another psychological issue on his part that we're on the black about?

I think it will take until the first week of March or worse 2018 to see any notable change in the setlists.

While I understand Jon needs to grip the mic stand trying to hit higher notes, there's no excuse for mainly standing still singing other parts. His age shouldn't be a huge factor. He's a fit 55.

Runaway Tours is now his comfort zone. He's unfortunately, looking less and less the rock star.


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He clearly worked with a vocal coach to get away from singing through his nose and to start annunciating the words better.

I truly think him standing at the mic has everything to do with this new style of singing. It seems to me that he does it so he can completely focus on how he's singing and to save his energy for his vocals.

It's a shame because Jon has always been known as one of the best frontmen and now he's just a shadow of his old self.

I try not to judge today's Jon to the 80's and 90's but when I look back at those years whether it's a live show, an interview, or even just watching Access All Areas, I'm like Fuuuuuuuuck where did that guy go... It's all different from head to toe... If it wasn't for those years, I wouldn't be here typing this right now...

Some of the old school guys who used to post here like Seb, are done with it, some might have outgrown it... I still enjoy the form of it... For one it doesn't move me like it used to. When I was a kid, Jon and Richie weren't even people. I saw them as Elvis and The Beatles.. It's not like that anymore... I'm older, Jon's older, and the celebrity isn't what it once was.

I do like other bands besides Bon Jovi and I think most of those other bands, aren't as good as Bon Jovi once was in their prime either but that's okay, I can still like them... When I listen to other artists, I'm not comparing them to Bon Jovi of the 80's and that's what I do when I listen to the current Bon Jovi... Teardrop To The Sea doesn't compare to Living On A Prayer but neither does Viva La Vida by Coldplay imo... However, I still enjoy all three songs for different reasons...

I do like to mix the old with the new in order to balance the new... The internet has given me so much in terms of old school material... It's a never ending search... My collection was a tenth of what it was before the internet...

After the WAN album and tour, I was done with the band for a while... Not because it sucked, but because I needed a break. I do it all the time... After so much time had lapsed, I got into collecting soundboard and A+ audience recordings from the NJ tour... I was so into it... It brought me back... As this was going on, Burning Bridges came out of nowhere. I really dug a few of the songs and still do... I get it though... It's more or less a Jon 3rd solo album, it's a mood album, it's a bunch of recycled material... The album gave me hope that Jon could still be a decent recording artist. His voice is shot live but he sounds decent in the studio... So now I'm listening to BB one day and then throwing in some of the classic live Jovi tracks from the 80's. Found an amazing audience version of the Boys Are Back In Town from the NJ Tour. I'm balanced and back into the band again...

So then THINFS come out and I generally feel the same about it as I did Burning Bridges... I don't listen to it as it's Bon Jovi... I listen to it like it's a different band... It's like if Jon Shanks released an album and hired Jon to sing on it... That's kind of the view I take on it... It's different and I like it... No new Bon Jovi material will ever sound the way it once did... My only hope is for vault material to pop out one day...

Although I'm collecting all the Soundboard Concerts from this tour, I know I'll never listen to any of them. Probably at the end, I'll put together a compilation of the best ones or something but it's just more about the hobby.

I'm looking forward to my shows next month and once the tour is done, I'll put it all away for a while before I take it back out again and look for new older stuff to keep the balance going...

That's where I am with this band currently.. It's not all good but it's not all bad either...

I don't get the whole obsession of Jon not running around... Not every artist runs around and they still put on great shows... The Beatles were like statues and they were amazing....

That's nonsense. It's nothing to do with him not running around. He's like a mannequin. Referencing a band that ALWAYS stood still is pointless.

Jon's vocals are mostly poor - he's complimenting that by barely moving? Nobody expects acrobatics. But If you can't sing like a rock star - act like one. Do something.


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Blood On Blood:
https://youtu.be/Tqje0pI6Qh0

God Bless This Mess:
https://youtu.be/SYkSsxFwEuo



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I honestly don't think Jon is as healthy as his looks would indicate. He's made a comment in an interview to the effect that he prays a lot every day because it " soothes" him but the only thing he ever asks for for himself is good health. People generally don't pray for things they have/ take for granted. Then he commented that the band would tour if everyone was healthy enough to do so.

I believe he's giving all he's got to give.

Oh God, reading those comments made me kind of sad and nostalgic...like if somebody has died or something.

Maybe if he hadn't smoked like a chimney for the last 20 years and had focused on protecting his most prized gift he would be in better shape.

As far as I know, Richie smokes too and yet, he can still sing.

Richie does a lot of things, but smokimg is not one of them.

There you go... Another person living in the past... Reality alert... It's not 1989 anymore, Jon is not 27 years old... He'll be 55 in a few days..

For the record he is shot and certainly cannot sing like he used to.

I'm pretty sure he does, though. Too bad, really :/

Two days ago you said that Jon was in a good shape
Two days ago i said that Jon was ill
Now you say that Jon isn't as fit as he looks

Eveline, he doesn't.

He's an alcoholic and a drug addict, but he is not a smoker.

Two days ago I was asked how Jon's voice was and I said "in good shape" with a comparison of the most recent tours and an appreciation for the effort he's made. I also said he didn't sound like he did in 1995. But you conveniently ignore that because it doesn't fit your agenda of picking apart a positive review.

You want to be bitter and bitchy. I want to appreciate what we've got for what it is. The idea that this could be the last tour is depressing, devastating even.

Richie stopped smoking when he's father passed away in lung cancer in 2006. I don't know if he smoked much before that or even anything, but he was quite determined that he would never smoke after that.

Btw, is Jon still smoking?

Living in the past? How? People older than Jon move around more. Why do you mention his age as if it means he's incapable of moving?

Nobody expects him to replicate his younger years. But he's offering next to nothing visually AS WELL as struggling vocally.

Also, I'm pretty sure I've seen you post about how he needs to ditch the grey hair and start looking like a rock star. You're full of contradictions.