Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community - February 19th, Scottrade Center- St. Louis, MO.

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1219235)

Agreed. For me, at the Nashville show, the only song I could actually hear a struggle on was HAND and a bit of Prayer but I don't go to the show honing in on ONLY Jon's vocals. I'm watching/listening to the entire band and watching the production as well. If Jon was up there singing acappella with a quiet audience yes everyone would notice but that's not what is going on. As you said, people are singing themselves and badly lol! Plus, I'm not going to nail Jon to a cross over and over again on his vocal struggles. Believe me, he's listening back to the performances and he's harder on himself then anyone here can or will be. If he was mailing in performances (as I've seen him do occasionally in my 30+ years of seeing this band live) then I'd be a lot more critical. But, he and the band are giving their all. That's all I want for the dollars I pay for a ticket.

Exactly. I disagree with the accusations Jon doesn't care. He said at the Greenville show he's been working on it because he doesn't want to disappoint us at the live shows.

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Originally Posted by Gabriel Shoes (Post 1219242)

If you're aware that he has a lot of struggling with his singing and like it anyway, that's no problem to me. What I can't stand it's the reality distortion going on for some fans, that's very sick. You can still like something even admitting the the flaws.

But there is nothing he or more so, you could do about it... You have two choices, live with it or walk away...

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Originally Posted by Gabriel Shoes (Post 1219236)

Bon Jovi apologists.

I'm telling you, there's some serious hocus pocus shit going on at these shows. I noticed Jon struggle to reach a few notes at the Sunrise show, but I truly didn't realize how bad he sounded until I watched videos on YouTube the next day.

When you're there, especially on the floor where the crowd energy is high, his voice sounds fine. You simply don't pay attention to or notice each note or breath like you do watching a video or stream from your couch.

On video or live stream, he sounds like shit.

At the show, he sounds fine.

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1219240)

To be clear, I'm not saying the vocals were not crappy but being at the show not listening back to a live recording I am being honest in that I couldn't hear it. I realize that astounds you but it's the honest opinion of someone there. I'm quite sure if I go and listen to what you have I would agree and say, "wow that sucked".

I'm glad it's not just me. I honestly didn't hear major problems when I was there. I may eventually hear the Birmingham official recording and think otherwise, but right now my hard drive is fried and I can't download it. So all I can go on is the experience I had, which was pleasant and something I enjoyed very much.

The reviews are positive too, so it's not just the fans that are under the spell if there is one.

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1219262)

The reviews are positive too, so it's not just the fans that are under the spell if there is one.

Has there been one credible review that isn't a pun filled fluff piece by a local newspaper?

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1219267)

Has there been one credible review that isn't a pun filled fluff piece by a local newspaper?

What does that even mean???

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1219268)

What does that even mean???

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If he doesn't agree with it, it's not credible.

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1219271)

If he doesn't agree with it, it's not credible.

Very True

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1219244)

But there is nothing he or more so, you could do about it... You have two choices, live with it or walk away...

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I'm living with it.

That doesn't mean I'll ever pretend everything's OK.

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1219271)

If he doesn't agree with it, it's not credible.

Haha, coming from the most biased fan girl on this forum that's very rich!