I'm wondering the same. If this ever happen it will sure put the stone on their grave.

They could get a little help, like let David sing a song or play more acoustic/TLFR renditions... I hope they do it, because yeah I'm not optimistic either.

Maybe singing Always wasn't the smartest move on opening night. Is his voice so bad that one song could cause such a rapid decline only a few shows later? Or would this have happened regardless?


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This is just heartbreaking. I don't know what to say anymore.

But I don't see them cancelling at all. Most of us guessed that this first leg was Jon testing the waters, hell he said as much. Fans that don't know better don't expect great vocals from an "old" man. And from what I read on social media, most of the audience are female fans who are more than happy to see Jon flashing his million-watt smile and playing the hits.

Please, don't interpret this as an insult to casual fans. I actually think it's really good that many fans enjoy this BJ. Let the boys wrap this leg and take a long break. Europe and the rest of the world can wait.

I want them to have a final tour where everybody is healthy and they are enjoying themselves. Better to spread this tour for as long as possible and go out with a bang

And I hope that when there is a final tour, Richie comes back... but that's another discussion for another time


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He can't sing anymore, there's no polishing over that.

I kinda feel sorry for him but then realise he's charging people a fortune to go and watch him sing terribly while clinging onto a mic stand.

I don't think it's a matter of ripping people off... He's putting on a 2.5 hour show and most people love it and can't wait to see it again...

My fear is that his voice is just going to collapse... Even his 'Is there a doctor in the house' sound weird...

At 55, I don't know what's driving him anymore... Money? Breaking Records? An F U to critics? A see Richie, life goes on without you??? but he needs to charge a little less and do shorter sets, maybe 1/2 acoustic and 1/2 rockin...

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No doubt: now he sings worse than 2013 e 2015 tours.

Great Concert
 

I was there last night and I don't think the videos are doing him justice. The concert was great. He sang his heart out and the crowd loved it. I haven't had that much fun at a concert in years. There was so much energy in the place at the end and I actually liked how he progressed from the lesser known songs to the more well-known songs. I also liked his stories, there was something about the whole set up that felt very intimate, like we were in a small venue not a huge one and I really appreciated that they were able to create that feeling. Anyway - everyone I saw left smiling so I think it was easily worth the $$.

Exactly.

It's pretty clear that his vocals chords are very fragile at the moment and they don't handle 2+ hours of singing every two days. When this happens, your vocal chords don't recover from the last show like they used to before.

The bad news is ... judging by the way he's straining and his voice is behaving, this is permanent. I think he will have to resort to surgery if he wan't to carry one.

He had some troubles during 2003-2007, but it's nowhere close as this now.

That's good to hear. At least he is still trying hard to please the audiences.

Frankly, I'm waiting until Bleeding Purist checks in. If he goes on record saying that he will never go to another show again I will be worried.

If I paid $100 for a Big Mac I'd enjoy it but would it be worth it?

I genuinely think Jon wants to tour as some kind of catharsis for the past few years but I think he's just adding to his problems by touring when his voice is done.

Maybe he'll call it quits or as you suggested rethink the way the show is currently going to save his voice. He needs to make some drastic changes either way.

I agree. I think he looks sad up there - his voice IS shot and I think the whole Richie thing has hurt him more than he'll ever (publicly) admit.

I've criticised Jon in the past for what I perceive to be greed, but I do now think this tour is exactly like you said, a form of catharsis for him. Unfortunately, it may be the very thing that brings the machine to a grinding halt once and for all.


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Maybe that's sort of a farewell thing without making it big in the headlines? The next step would be a small reunion (most probably with Richie) in NJ or something pretty symbolic and that would be it.

Nah, I've always been bad at prophesying ;)

He's still pulling in massive crowds... He just broke his own Nashville record...

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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ;)

(and absolutely with Richie!)

Back in the 80s and 90s, I'm sure Jon and the band never imagined they would still be performing well into the 2000s. He never took proper care of his most vital instrument and key to his success, his vocal chords. Plus smoking, which is probably the worst thing a singer could ever do. No doubt this probably bothers him more than anything.

Then again, it's 2017, why don't we have the technology to restore vocal strength/ability? How amazing would that be? His confidence would be back and we'd have some stellar shows again!

I think this has also to do with them having the smallest and most minimalistic stage in ages. There's a lot more room for seating on the floor than there was on the last few tours.

Jon has said it a million times in the past few year that he doesn't enjoy touring that much anymore. When he announced the tour, I got the feeling immediately that it will be nothing special this time. Jon didn't sound excited at all.

I think he really enjoys writing his music and doing some occational shows with KOS. THINFS tour so far, based on the videos I've seen, is pretty horrible. I even think that Jon wants it to be over soon already and probably is just touring for the "fans". Nothing seems to be working. He sounds worse than ever, he is very passive on stage, setlists are more predictable than ever and the new songs are getting no reaction.

This is the first tour since HAND that I will definitely skip. I still have some good memories seeing them live. It would be pure masochism to pay +100€ to see the band/Jon in current condition... In my opinion.

It does feel like the beginning of the end as a live act. Jon has deteriorated rapidly. Richie isn't coming back. It's sad they'll probably bow out at this level. But What a band on their day. The best ever for me.


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This....

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Critics have been always harsh on them so I don't think getting the prize matters that much in the end. To the fans, BJ is the sh*t and I thank God I got to know this band. Their music makes my life happier and although I do wish I could reverse time and attend one of those energetic balls on stage, I still have a lot to be thankful for. So it's all worth it anyway.

How come? He is no different than the rest of us, really. One person's opinion shouldn't make you worry.

That's not me trying to be a smart ass or be funny, by the way. I apologize if that's how it seems.

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Nah - not at all. :D

I know David as a very introspective person and he was there last night. He (of most people that I know) is able to be objective. So I am really interested on his take of the show. He is also a long time fan so he has knowledge of how Jon has sounded over the years.

Yeah, no worries! I understand now.

Hopefully he enjoyed it then. It seems that most people who are attending the shows are enjoying them...

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Well, somebody liked the show.
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainmen...1cd959923.html


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All reviews have been outstanding... So puzzling, even according to my standard modifications..

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Prayer is horrible.

The irony is, Jon is getting rave reviews and packing them in... The 'Machine' is unstoppable!!! That's the legacy!!!

Let me also point out that I've seen other bands, new and old, and they always lack a certain something so even with Jon's vocal state, he's still bringing a certain something to these shows that rival most acts...

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Remember when in 2013 Jon was declining month by month and we thought that was sudden and rapid? Our boy is outdoing himself - manages to sound worse night by night.

Really? Ok now your just sounding like a big jerk, your just trying to cause drama and trouble here. Let's see u try to sing every night like he does, can u go on stage with the most perfect sounding, beautifully tuned voice? Are you or everyone else here can say that you can sing 100 times better than he can? be perfect every night? Are you better than Jon, Really, you guys should really stop obessesing with his voice, its getting old and boring, and your making this forum dull and boring by repeating yourselves over and over again.

Again, you are the one with the problem with us, not the other way around.

He is being honest.

No he isn't on stage charging hundreds of dollars to watch him sing and neither should Jon. He clearly isn't up to it. That's not me being harsh or making a big drama out of it, it's a fact. The man is sounding worse and worse. Do I want to be saying this? Of course I don't!! I want to see the band sometime again but if Jon can't sing, which surely he is aware of, then he should pack it in for the sake of his own health.

It can't be healthy straining yourself for 2 and a half hours night after night and still sounding like he does. It's starting to sound like he is losing any vocal he has. It's actually worrying what he is sounding like now.

I watched 'God Bless This Mess' the other day and in one of the verses, he takes a huge breath and then carries on singing. A man who is glued to the microphone shouldn't have that much trouble with his breathing. 55 or not. I work in the fitness industry, I'm telling you now, this isn't healthy for him and something isn't quite right...

Stop saying people are making dramas for being honest. You might not agree but it's clear as day.


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I guess I don't get the whole not giving his voice a chance to rest thing. Bruce does 3.5 hours every other night with no problem. Hell, Joe Elliot was having vocal issues a few years back, and listen to him now. More importantly, look at the band having fun and still being a rock band:

https://youtu.be/mBfJOkPZVM4

What I don't get is that he struggles (and fails at) with the verses, but seems to easily hits the notes on the "bridge" parts ("we give it a shot" etc.). Either there's many more backing tracks/parts involved or he's so unsure about himself that he's constantly switching techniques and not finding the right one for the right time :-(

That's actually something that already puzzled me in Munich on the WAN tour. There his voice was going up and down all night and on relatively easy verses like Who Says or Captain Crash it seemed a few times like it was fading, while on other more demanding songs he managed to sound stronger.
We got the same issue here, just on a different level.

I think most of us could out sing Jon at this point so your crybaby "stop saying bad things about my idol cos he's better than you" rant looks even sillier than usual.

Please learn how to type, and then maybe someone will take your point seriously.

I think JBJs voice sounds different when you are there.

Correct me if im wrong but im yet to see people who have been to the show - who are not on here - saying his voice was bad.

You know the songs so well you start singing them in your head and arent listening for JBJs faults.

Casuals and people who have never been before have nothing to compare it too so they wont know the difference.

But its clear that the reason theres only a few dates plus none in Europe and worldwide yet is cos JBJ is seeing how he holds up.

I think in a recent Q&A he said theres no europe and uk until 2018. Maybe he wants to give his voice a 6 month break.

The tour at the moment ends in April before one show in August and after that nothing at the moment is booked in for after.