Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community

Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community (https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/index.php)
-   Tour Discussion (https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   March 4th 2017 - Talking Stick Resort Arena, Phoenix Thread (https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/showthread.php?t=69889)

gabriele 03-06-2017 09:59 AM

I think this is the best performance by jon in this tour. He sangs much better than the past concert.

Jeeper 03-06-2017 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1220277)
Yes, they did mentioned his vocals, and this one I can appreciate because unlike some people here (not you of course) but some here just go on and criticize his vocals without even being at the show and just criticizing him for the sake of it. At least this reviewer was actually there at the show, he knows how he sounded, I'm sure he had at least decent seats to hear him well enough, he was honest, he didn't say he was perfect, he did took down a note or two in some songs with higher range, but for the reviewer he sang well enough, maybe some here who love to go one about his vocals can maybe take a lesson from this reviewer, you can have some constructive critisism without being arrogant or obnoxious.



This board is very lenient regarding Jon's vocals. Several members who no longer post here, would have been FAR more critical.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

symbeline 03-06-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1220306)
This board is very lenient regarding Jon's vocals. Several members who no longer post here, would have been FAR more critical.

To be fair, the people who don't post here anymore probably don't accept this Jon and never will and why should they if they have different expectations? Being a fan is not a life sentence either...

On the other hand, lowering expectations, being able to adapt to a worse situation, don't make the rest of the fans stupid (not that you said that or it's implied, to be clear). Unless we are blind and deaf and won't admit this band is not at its best right now.

JackieBlue 03-06-2017 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1220318)
... Being a fan is not a life sentence either...

...

Good one! :D

rosa3 03-06-2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1220318)
To be fair, the people who don't post here anymore probably don't accept this Jon and never will and why should they if they have different expectations? Being a fan is not a life sentence either...

On the other hand, lowering expectations, being able to adapt to a worse situation, don't make the rest of the fans stupid (not that you said that or it's implied, to be clear). Unless we are blind and deaf and won't admit this band is not at its best right now.

The reason why some ppl don't post here anymore is because of the negative beating a dead horse thing on Jon's vocals, and FYI, alot of fans are not in denial about Jon's voice and performance, we accept and that he is now 55, not 25, and that this is 2017, not 1987, yes, 1987 was a great year and great fun to see Bon Jovi at that time, but 30 years is a long time ago and things and people change. The ones here that complain and judge his voice are the ones who won't accept that Jon is not the same Jon from 1987, the fans who you claim are in "denial" that his voice is not good anymore, are the fans who accept and happy with Jon and the band of 2017.

DryCounty 03-06-2017 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1220351)
The reason why some ppl don't post here anymore is because of the negative beating a dead horse thing on Jon's vocals, and FYI, alot of fans are not in denial about Jon's voice and performance, we accept and that he is now 55, not 25, and that this is 2017, not 1987, yes, 1987 was a great year and great fun to see Bon Jovi at that time, but 30 years is a long time ago and things and people change. The ones here that complain and judge his voice are the ones who won't accept that Jon is not the same Jon from 1987, the fans who you claim are in "denial" that his voice is not good anymore, are the fans who accept and happy with Jon and the band of 2017.

Where have you read that anyone would get the idea to compare Jon now to the Jon 1987? :lol: People are however comparing today Jon to the 2011 Jon, or even early 2013 Jon which is a perfectly reasonable comparision considering it was only a few years ago and he sounded petty great then.

Captain_jovi 03-06-2017 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1220351)
The reason why some ppl don't post here anymore....

What are you basing this on?

Panda 03-06-2017 10:07 PM

Rosa, the reason people don't post here any more is people like you attempting to not let others have an opinion.

Walleris 03-07-2017 05:38 AM

Like a fine wine, he just keeps getting better with age, am I right ladies?????


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Gadden 03-07-2017 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1220375)
Like a fine wine, he just keeps getting better with age, am I right ladies?????


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

What is with the discrimination ;)?

Walleris 03-07-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadden (Post 1220377)
What is with the discrimination ;)?

No discrimination at all (though I understand why it could have sounded like it, my apologies), just felt like throwing some cliches used by backstagers and other Jon apologists was appropriate given where the 'discussion' went here :)

Jeeper 03-07-2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1220318)
To be fair, the people who don't post here anymore probably don't accept this Jon and never will and why should they if they have different expectations? Being a fan is not a life sentence either...

On the other hand, lowering expectations, being able to adapt to a worse situation, don't make the rest of the fans stupid (not that you said that or it's implied, to be clear). Unless we are blind and deaf and won't admit this band is not at its best right now.



The point I was making was in comparison to previous years, this board is actually very tolerant, less confrontational & more lenient in its criticism. Several very opinionated users no longer post. So in all honesty, Jon gets quite an easy ride on here considering the dramatic decline in his voice.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Rdkopper 03-07-2017 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1220379)
The point I was making was in comparison to previous years, this board is actually very tolerant, less confrontational & more lenient in its criticism. Several very opinionated users no longer post. So in all honesty, Jon gets quite an easy ride on here considering the dramatic decline in his voice.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

What are you looking for people to say? His voice is shot, it's spoken about daily, and it's old news...

Now it's just people crying...

Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk

Jeeper 03-07-2017 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1220384)
What are you looking for people to say? His voice is shot, it's spoken about daily, and it's old news...

Now it's just people crying...

Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk



What?? I'm not looking for anyone to say anything.

A current user keeps implying people are continually criticising Jon & I was simply pointing out that this board is actually quite lenient in the level of vitriol aimed at JBJ.

Honestly, since Supersonic stopped putting you in your place you've become even more irritating. Give it a rest.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Bounce7800 03-07-2017 04:22 PM

Added Youtube links to all the songs in the OP, we have the whole concert for this one thanks to Youtuber michael johnson. Great job from him!

JerseyGiant 03-07-2017 11:41 PM

Hat off to the youtuber who filmed and uploaded all the songs!... Ive been rather reserved on the whole tour/Jons voice... mainly because I wont catch any shows this year being across the pond... This is Jovi 2017... I like it... Is it amazing.. no... is this a Jon thats having fun? Working had to still put on a good show... yes... Id go... let's hope he improves further and they bring the show to some smaller venues or more intimate settings next year for the uk and the europe shows ✌... I still dont get all the angst with the set lists... these are american shows a static set list in the states isnt a new thing... my money is on Madison Square Garden being the best shows of the tour... I could be wrong

Rdkopper 03-07-2017 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1220387)
Honestly, since Supersonic stopped putting you in your place you've become even more irritating. Give it a rest.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

He tried and failed... A big reason why he doesn't post here anymore...


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11.
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.