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ThePunisher 03-08-2017 10:20 PM

Official Recordings no longer 1-3 days
 
I have been fighting all day with OneLive about the Phoenix show. After they finally called me they told me I had to wait another week to a month for it. I then spoke to someone else that said that they may can the whole thing because no shows have been uploaded since Sacramento. They then told me they'd be in touch. Of course, they didn't offer to refund all my pre-orders so just FYI.

Rdkopper 03-08-2017 10:40 PM

Yep!!! I bet the shows aren't selling like they hoped...

- Repeat set-lists

- Overpriced

- Jon sounds like shit... (They sound better than expected but still aren't what they should be either... If they pulled some rarity shows from back in the day, it might raise some interest)

- Repeat set-lists- ***Did I mention that*** It's like buying the same ****ing thing over and over again... As I'm editing these things, even Jon's speeches are identical...

They never ****ing do anything right.... Even with Sons Of Beaches!!! They could have reached a little deeper in the vault and included In America, or a Soundboard version of Cadillac Man!!! Nothing to raise interest for diehards... OWN Live sucked, The Box-Set could have been better if they reached a little further back (hardly anything from the 80s).. TLFR was a disaster... A real acoustic album as intended would have been perfect...

Whoever has been running Bon Jovi management for the past 20 years should be fired... The only great decision made was to swap the 80's live album for Blaze & Stranger!!! We ended up getting most of the tracks anyway!!!! Jon should have recorded Blood On The Bricks too...

ThePunisher 03-08-2017 10:56 PM

I just spoke to someone pretty official and he said that they have been having major technical difficulties since San Jose and that it may be a while if at all.

Kathleen 03-08-2017 11:02 PM

Ah crap - have been looking forward to these.

Falco 03-09-2017 12:03 AM

The idea is still salvageable...go back into the vault and put old shows up for sale. Most bands/singers get the recording of every show they do. It can't be that difficult to release them online. Jon is a smart guy, but he sometimes misses the most obvious things...

CLEYoungGun21 03-09-2017 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1220448)
The idea is still salvageable...go back into the vault and put old shows up for sale. Most bands/singers get the recording of every show they do. It can't be that difficult to release them online. Jon is a smart guy, but he sometimes misses the most obvious things...



Yup.. if Jon wants the cash to keep flowing, they could probably make a fair amount putting old shows up for sale for the older fans... even myself being a younger fan, I would definitely be into the idea of having soundboard shows from the 80's and 90's


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Falco 03-09-2017 02:44 AM

I'd be all over the Crush tour and Bounce tour shows, that's when I was getting into Bon Jovi. I'd love to have a full soundboard of the Anaheim 2003 show and that absolute killer version of Keep The Faith.

Kathleen 03-09-2017 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1220453)
I'd be all over the Crush tour and Bounce tour shows, that's when I was getting into Bon Jovi. I'd love to have a full soundboard of the Anaheim 2003 show and that absolute killer version of Keep The Faith.

Anaheim 2003 and the big boom version of Keep the Faith? Oh yeah - I am so there.

Captmorgs 03-09-2017 05:28 AM

What major technical difficulties would prevent the release of ANY more shows? Makes no sense. I was looking forward to the Phoenix recording and a somewhat improved Blood On Blood.


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Panda 03-09-2017 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1220463)
What major technical difficulties would prevent the release of ANY more shows? Makes no sense. I was looking forward to the Phoenix recording and a somewhat improved Blood On Blood.


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$$$$$$$$$= no one is buying them. But they cant say that.

Walleris 03-09-2017 05:37 AM

While they may not sell well, I don't think they were supposed to do so. It's a product for the most hardcore fans/collectors, which off course there are very few for any ban. Perhaps they were expecting more sales from people like us (diehards, but not over obsessed with having everything)?

I would be however surprised if they stopped doing this, as it is a pretty cheap product to make - they already record every show. And if they want to cut down all costs, they could always stopped doing pitch corrections for Jon's voice :D

efpg0708 03-09-2017 05:43 AM

I'd bet it has to do with Jon's voice. I don't think he expected it to be this bad at this stage of the tour.

Bounce7800 03-09-2017 10:27 AM

It's mainly designed for people who are at the show rather than nutters like us, although it would help it tick along with the extra purchases of multiple shows. People love a memento of the show they've been to. I'd rather have a decent bootleg of, say, Coventry 2006, than the Hammersmith Odeon show as I was there.

Unfortunately they are a day late and a dollar short on the idea, which would have been amazing on any other tour except this one with a ridiculously static setlist and Jon's vocal issues. I can only assume they are struggling to make Jon sound bearable as there should still be even a few hundred at each show who'd want the show- although they should have sold it in a ticket bundle, rather than wanting people to pay for it afterwards.

feedback947 03-09-2017 10:35 AM

we should give a new name to the tour. "This Shame is not for sale".

If they are not going to sell more concerts because of jonīs voice... why to continue with the tour? itīs a pitty when I listen to the concerts and they play like a cheap cover band...

Bon Jovi is one of the greatest bands of the history... why are you doing this??

Eveline 03-09-2017 11:23 AM

So this means Richie has escaped the sinking ship?!

steel_horse75 03-09-2017 11:35 AM

I'd rather they release downloads of when they were at their peak. I have no interest at all in buying any of this tours shows

Falco 03-09-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1220455)
Anaheim 2003 and the big boom version of Keep the Faith? Oh yeah - I am so there.

Yes ma'am! He was on fire that night. I miss that energy and passion from Jon. He wouldn't dare attempt a jungle scream now!

Nige 03-09-2017 12:18 PM

Jon's previous contract with the record company didn't allow him to sell live recordings which is why we've not seen them until this tour. It's quite possible that that clause still stands regarding older recordings so we might never see them, although I hope I'm wrong.

Captain_jovi 03-09-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1220513)
So this means Richie has escaped the sinking ship?!

What does Richie have to do with any of this?

bjcrazycpa 03-09-2017 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1220541)
What does Richie have to do with any of this?

Yes, and why is it a sinking ship? Based on what exactly?

Captain_jovi 03-09-2017 05:54 PM

If you want people to let it go, stop comparing the two.

Eveline 03-09-2017 06:26 PM

I referred to the comment just above my post.

Captain_jovi 03-09-2017 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1220545)
I referred to the comment just above my post.

Which didn't mention Richie at all, just the tour....?

ThePunisher 03-09-2017 06:56 PM

Just wanted to give an update. I got a call earlier stating " We are working on fixing the issues with San Jose, Phoenix and San Diego during the break and I was GUARANTEED Phoenix would be available later tonight or Friday Night.

Kathleen 03-09-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1220548)
Just wanted to give an update. I got a call earlier stating " We are working on fixing the issues with San Jose, Phoenix and San Diego during the break and I was GUARANTEED Phoenix would be available later tonight or Friday Night.

That's encouraging - I am really looking forward to the MSG shows and hope to have recordings of them.

ThePunisher 03-09-2017 08:59 PM

They should have just gone with NUGS from the start and none of this would happen.

Captmorgs 03-10-2017 01:14 AM

So unfortunate that Jon has done some of his best writing in years, talks about a rebirth of the band, they all seem energized and have finally put the Richie thing behind them, they're releasing soundboards of EVERY friggin' show, and Jon is at less than his best. Man, this could have been special.


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efpg0708 03-10-2017 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1220581)
So unfortunate that Jon has done some of his best writing in years, talks about a rebirth of the band, they all seem energized and have finally put the Richie thing behind them, they're releasing soundboards of EVERY friggin' show, and Jon is at less than his best. Man, this could have been special.


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I'd kill for some of the 2010/2011 shows soundboard recordings ...

Becky 03-10-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1220542)
Yes, and why is it a sinking ship? Based on what exactly?

I'd like to know that as well. Every review I read from a newspaper says the shows are sold out. The most critical group of fans on the planet are complaining about video clips; it doesn't change the great time people are having at the shows.

ThePunisher 03-10-2017 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1220634)
I'd like to know that as well. Every review I read from a newspaper says the shows are sold out. The most critical group of fans on the planet are complaining about video clips; it doesn't change the great time people are having at the shows.

I've requested all of my money back but they are refusing. They aren't going to come through with Phoenix and San Diego.

This is all one big scam and I hope to god that they realize that NUGS is the better option.

Nige 03-10-2017 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1220640)
I've requested all of my money back but they are refusing. They aren't going to come through with Phoenix and San Diego.

This is all one big scam and I hope to god that they realize that NUGS is the better option.

This might sound like a stupid question but what is NUGS?

ThePunisher 03-10-2017 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1220641)
This might sound like a stupid question but what is NUGS?

It's another site where Springsteen, Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Phish, and a bunch of other bands sell their live shows. You can see when a show comes out. Customer service answers and shows are 12.99 for FLAC and 9.99 for Mp3.

Captmorgs 03-10-2017 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1220640)
I've requested all of my money back but they are refusing. They aren't going to come through with Phoenix and San Diego.



This is all one big scam and I hope to god that they realize that NUGS is the better option.



If they aren't providing the product, how can they justify not refunding your money? Are they telling you they're still working on them?


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Kathleen 03-10-2017 08:24 PM

That is so disheartening :( I also have dealt with Nugs for years and have never had a problem with it.

I hope they actually come through with the shows if they won't refund your money.

ThePunisher 03-10-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1220645)
If they aren't providing the product, how can they justify not refunding your money? Are they telling you they're still working on them?


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They called me. Both Phoenix and San Deigo aren't coming out. San Diego was uploaded and they had to take it down because it had issues.

Tom_K 03-12-2017 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1220518)
Jon's previous contract with the record company didn't allow him to sell live recordings which is why we've not seen them until this tour.

Is this your opinion or fact?

efpg0708 03-12-2017 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_K (Post 1220702)
Is this your opinion or fact?

I don't think is a fact at all. During TC tour they posted a lot of videos of live performances on youtube and on their website ... the record company has a lot of rules about your records, but I'd say they don't have anything to do with what you play live ... just my two cents !

Javier 03-12-2017 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1220704)
I don't think is a fact at all. During TC tour they posted a lot of videos of live performances on youtube and on their website ... the record company has a lot of rules about your records, but I'd say they don't have anything to do with what you play live ... just my two cents !

The band could always post whatever they wanted on youtube but it's not about that, it's about SELLING the live performances and whether the record company received a cut from that or not that the agreement wasn't made until now....

Nige 03-12-2017 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_K (Post 1220702)
Is this your opinion or fact?

That's a fact.

Rdkopper 03-12-2017 02:31 PM

The Phoenix show sounds incredible... They definitely changed the mix from the others and possibly auto tuned Jon even more... Although he doesn't sound robotic so I don't know what they did to improve his vocals.... cutting edge technology... Looking forward to the next ones... major improvement...

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