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Walleris 03-20-2017 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1221266)
Both my brother and his wife enjoyed the show. He said they played a lot of new stuff (he's not familiar with anything besides NJ/Slippery, so LH, WLOL, Crash, etc ... are all new to him) but they enjoyed it anyway. The only negative comments they made were that:

They didn't play Always and I'll Be There For You (Always was their wedding song).

Jon's vocals were very weak at times.

They still put on a good show for the casuals. But as a diehard, I honestly don't have any interest in paying to see them this tour, even though I love the album.

I understand not doing Always most of the time (given how it sounded in LA, I'll never complain about it not being played ever again), but I don't get not doing I'll Be There For You. It's a much much easier song to sing, he sounded OK-ish that one time he played it in a fanclub gig (and still very decent in 2013). It will obviously be tough, but I can't see it sounding worse than Bad Medicine or HAND, for example.

Without that signature Bon Jovi ballad the set just drags.

Burlhouse 03-20-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1221270)
I understand not doing Always most of the time (given how it sounded in LA, I'll never complain about it not being played ever again), but I don't get not doing I'll Be There For You. It's a much much easier song to sing, he sounded OK-ish that one time he played it in a fanclub gig (and still very decent in 2013). It will obviously be tough, but I can't see it sounding worse than Bad Medicine or HAND, for example.



Without that signature Bon Jovi ballad the set just drags.



I think one of the reasons that Jon avoids certain songs, apart from vocal reasons, is that Richie's harmonies are missing. IIRC, during a Q&A last tour, he said he won't do Miss 4th of July unless Richie came back. I do not think he said that just because he lacked the original guitarist.



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liljovi93 03-20-2017 08:59 AM

Good to see a few changes. Not the changes we wanted but at least it's mixed up a bit.

Shame that 'Devils In The Temple' got dropped.

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Walleris 03-20-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Burlhouse (Post 1221271)
I think one of the reasons that Jon avoids certain songs, apart from vocal reasons, is that Richie's harmonies are missing. IIRC, during a Q&A last tour, he said he won't do Miss 4th of July unless Richie came back. I do not think he said that just because he lacked the original guitarist.



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I don't buy it. First of all, Richie's vocals are much more missing in Wanted, and secondly (more importantly), IBTFY was played plenty of times since Richie left. I don't see why this would be an issue when it wasn't in 2013.

hackster73 03-20-2017 10:37 AM

Captain crash
Working man
New year's day

...

It's not that I'm not pleased there are some changes but of all the songs...

hackster73 03-20-2017 10:43 AM

Here it is then...

This House Is Not for Sale
Knockout
You Give Love a Bad Name
Lost Highway
Whole Lot of Leavin'
Roller Coaster
We Weren't Born to Follow
Work for the Working Man
I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
We Got It Goin' On
Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars
It's My Life
We Don't Run
God Bless This Mess
Scars on This Guitar
New Year's Day
Lay Your Hands on Me
Born to Be My Baby
Have a Nice Day
Bad Medicine
Keep the Faith

Encore:

Who Says You Can't Go Home
Wanted Dead Or Alive
Livin' on a Prayer

hackster73 03-20-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hackster73 (Post 1221276)
Here it is then...

This House Is Not for Sale
Knockout
You Give Love a Bad Name
Lost Highway
Whole Lot of Leavin'
Roller Coaster
We Weren't Born to Follow
Work for the Working Man
I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
We Got It Goin' On
Captain Crash
It's My Life
We Don't Run
God Bless This Mess
Scars on This Guitar
New Year's Day
Lay Your Hands on Me
Born to Be My Baby
Have a Nice Day
Bad Medicine
Keep the Faith

Encore:

Who Says You Can't Go Home
Wanted Dead Or Alive
Livin' on a Prayer


It really is so damned easy to make a bland setlist stronger...

This House Is Not for Sale
Knockout
You Give Love a Bad Name
Lost Highway
Story Of My Life
Roller Coaster
We Weren't Born to Follow
Work for the Working Man
I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
We Got It Goin' On
One Wild Night
It's My Life
We Don't Run
God Bless This Mess
Scars on This Guitar
Who Says You Can't Go Home
Lay Your Hands on Me
In These Arms - David Bryan on vocals
Have a Nice Day
Bad Medicine
Keep the Faith

Encore:

I'll Be There For You
Blood On Blood
Wanted Dead Or Alive
Livin' on a Prayer

jovifan93 03-20-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1221266)
Both my brother and his wife enjoyed the show. He said they played a lot of new stuff (he's not familiar with anything besides NJ/Slippery, so LH, WLOL, Crash, etc ... are all new to him) but they enjoyed it anyway. The only negative comments they made were that:

They didn't play Always and I'll Be There For You (Always was their wedding song).

Jon's vocals were very weak at times.

They still put on a good show for the casuals. But as a diehard, I honestly don't have any interest in paying to see them this tour, even though I love the album.

May I ask how old your brother is? I just don't get people going to a concert, paying a lot of money for it, and not having listened to the songs before, not even those that are already 9-17 years old like LH, Crash, etc.?

Rdkopper 03-20-2017 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1221266)
Both my brother and his wife enjoyed the show. He said they played a lot of new stuff (he's not familiar with anything besides NJ/Slippery, so LH, WLOL, Crash, etc ... are all new to him) but they enjoyed it anyway. The only negative comments they made were that:

They didn't play Always and I'll Be There For You (Always was their wedding song).

Jon's vocals were very weak at times.

They still put on a good show for the casuals. But as a diehard, I honestly don't have any interest in paying to see them this tour, even though I love the album.

You got to this level of detail seconds after the show ended ??? Seconds???

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Rdkopper 03-20-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1221269)
...but ummm... I thought Jon sounds fine when you're in person and they're just trolls who criticize him for no reason, no??? I'm confused :rolleyes:

I think this user is fabricating a story to prove a point... Just my opinion....

He posted that update about his brother being dissapointed seconds (I saw the post come through) after the show ended...

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