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steel_horse75 04-03-2017 03:53 PM

Just watched it. Something is definitely up but no idea what.

Rdkopper 04-03-2017 03:54 PM

Before most of you overreact, lets just note some facts...

- Almost every single act in the industry, programs 'something' during live shows... It's a sign of the times and the technology world we are in. I was talking to a guy who does the sound for SouthSide Johnny as well as many other acts and he said that everyone does this... Everyone!!!

- I could almost guarantee that Jon is not Lip Syncing the entire show. I have the soundboards and it's obvious that he's not... Something prompted this... TBH, I haven't watched any of the YouTube vids from Philly because I didn't want them to ruin my experience but after hearing this with the alternate version, this is new...

- The band do not need any fillers and I almost find it impossible for them to play most songs exactly the way they are on the album especially considering that most songs aren't played like the album versions..

- In my opinion, Jon is only using this overdub for THINFS and most likely Knockout. I think it just packs a bigger punch and they are the only songs that actually sound like the album versions...

I really just think he's using the track to fill out the vocals and not to lip sync his vocals... He is definitely singing up there... Although it looks ugly, it's really not that big a deal...

Captain_jovi 04-03-2017 03:56 PM

This isn't a lipsyncing thing though. Having the studio version cued up, solo and all, but tuned down to the live version means it's something more than just lipsyncing. If it were only that we would have heard only Jons voice.

cqleonardo 04-03-2017 04:12 PM

this thing is strange, I believe they didn't know about the track playing on the back, first because is the alternate version, second is that, if it was really a playback, why Jon don't go to the mic on the "I set each stone..."? he sings that on the studio and you can hear it on the video and the whole band went out of sync, you can see Tico trying to put the thing back together at some point. It doesnt make any sense

cqleonardo 04-03-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1222397)
Did you notice it during any other song at the show? Of course not that obvious, but from that compilation clip I got the feeling that they had the original Roller Coaster playing in the background as well.

I'm listening to that bit of Roller over and over and I can't hear it the original being played

danfan 04-03-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1222397)
Did you notice it during any other song at the show? Of course not that obvious, but from that compilation clip I got the feeling that they had the original Roller Coaster playing in the background as well.

Honestly, I was so disgusted and dismayed, I kind of zoned out. I wasn't singing along. All I could tell was how awful Jon sounded on certain songs. It's My Life and Bad Medicine were all but unlistenable. God Bless This Mess, which I love, was weak and the crowd gave no reaction. Skipping over Devil or New Years was another kick in the gut. Then of course the puny encore. I left in the middle of Prayer.

danfan 04-03-2017 04:16 PM

What's with this original version of THINFS? Never heard it.

cqleonardo 04-03-2017 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1222409)
What's with this original version of THINFS? Never heard it.

I don't think is fully out there, there's this snippet

bonjovi90 04-03-2017 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1222409)
What's with this original version of THINFS? Never heard it.

It was distributed to the radio stations in Germany. At least all in my area had that alternate edit in their playlist. I have a full copy of it, but besides that there is no difference to the album version at all.

cqleonardo 04-03-2017 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1222411)
It was distributed to the radio stations in Germany. At least all in my area had that alternate edit in their playlist. I have a full copy of it, but besides that there is no difference to the album version at all.

and its shorter, right? in the video we can see that everything went to hell because is shorter


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