Lost the stream halfway through KTF so I don't know what comes after

1. THINFS
2. Knockout
3. Bad Name
4. LH
5. WLOL??
6. Roller Coaster
7. Follow
8. Sleep (not sure if any covers, I lost the stream for a while)
9. WGIGO
10. Who Says
11. IML
???
Scars
??? - No NYD or Devil's
LYOHM
??
HAND
Bad Medicine
KTF

Encore
?
Wanted
Prayer

Thanks for the update. That sucks[emoji53]

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I guess it's a wrap then. Short standard setlist with no surprises. There are some gaps in there, danfan can you confirm?
I'm definitely not doing this again , waste of time. If there was an official live broadcast I'd try, but trying​ to watch this was like pulling​ teeth [emoji35]

Good night

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I would feel seriously short changed with that shorter 21 song set with zero surprised. Pathetic.

Again, pretty sure it was a stated fact that Mohegan Sun has a strict 2 hour limit for shows.

They have a curfew, which used to be 11:00. They played until 10:30. Opening act only played 4 songs. Whatever. I don't care if the curfew was 9:00. Start the show earlier, ditch the opening act, or tell the tribe to pound sand and play in Boston instead.

Good morning, setlist:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5e62dddc74.jpg

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They actually cut two songs out of the set?? Now that's not on.

Y'all are overreacting about the length of the set. Yes, it is odd that 2 songs were cut (and I'm curious to know which ones) but again, there's a strict curfew at this venue.. I did see a short clip of Jon in the pit during Bad Medicine. At least he looks like he's having fun, guys


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I think people would be fine with a two hour set as long as it was a set full of energy, a good performance and maybe a surprise or two. Hell, two hours is far from a 'short' show compared to other bands. 'Can't comment on how the band were, but the setlists are so boring. Half of the set is actual bad music. Songs I wouldn't want to hear, personally. The hits? Great. No problem. The new material? Absolutely no problem. But 'Born To Follow', 'Who Says', 'Sleep When I'm Dead', 'Bad Medicine', 'We Got It Goin' On'? Nah.

I agree with most of what you said, but you do realize Bad Medicine was a #1 single and one of their biggest hits, right? It's also insanely popular live.

Crap. Bruce plays literally twice as long and he's got what, 10 years on Jon.

A. If they're going to play a shorter set, lower the ticket price. Instead, ticket prices at Mohegan are always the most expensive of the tour.
B. If they have to be off by 10:30, ditch the opening act. Or, as I said earlier, tell the tribe to piss off and go play in Boston, Providence or Worcester.

Touché... both very fair points... but, while I'm sure none of the guys are hurting for money, you gotta price the tickets so you can make somewhat of a profit.


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Yes Jon literally said after Scars to Dave "let's move on to the next one". And I love Everett but to each his own. I think time seemed to be an issue as far as getting done but who knows. Decent show but not my favorite of the 5 I've seen. For me it would be, Cleveland, Columbus, Nashville, Chicago, Mohegan.


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My apologies I wasn't clear. I understand 'Bad Medicine' was a huge hit but I personally just don't care for it. It can be fun, but often feels like a chore, and I would never think to myself 'oh I want to listen to Bad Medicine'.

Jon did Two and a Half hours in Philly... 8:30 to 11 and they probably had to be off by 11 or he might have kept going... Twenty years ago, Ten years ago, you got away with so much more... Everything is so strict now everywhere... Forget smoking anything but you can't even hold up a lighter now a days... Crazy World, Crazy People, It's a sign of the times...

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There was a time bands could say screw the curfew and just pay the venue a fine for going over.

Not sure if that's still an option these days but I know I'd be pissed if I paid $400 for a floor seat and didn't get a full show.

When did this curfew start? Bruce played well over the two hour limit when he played there. I guess Jon is too cheap to pay the fine?

The ticket prices are always higher at that venue for the band so I don't think it's as simple as the band lowering them. If they could I'm sure they would.

Then they should stop playing there. Period. Between the curfew and the outrageous prices, give the fans a dasmn break and screw the friggin casino.

I don't see it like that... Bruce is an animal and that's just his thing... Jon is not in competition with Bruce and doesn't have to do it like Bruce... Jon's a 'play by the rules' type of guy...He takes on a lot of management responsibilities with this band and he can't micro manage everything... When it comes to ticket prices and venue curfew times, he's gotta leave it up to his people...

When whoever was developing ticket prices based on the laws of Supply and Demand, curfews might have been overlooked... I don't blame Jon at all for any of this...

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Not a believer in the so called "curfews" at casinos. Like was said- Bruce played longer/later at Mohegan. In Vegas GnR didn't hit stage until midnight. And even if Bon Jovi were to violate alleged curfew what's Mohegan gonna do- piss of Jon and ban them or fine them. Good luck securing other bands...

Casino shows are expensive and always short. It's the tradeoff for seeing the band in a small venue. If Tim McGraw and Alan Jackson can charge over $500 for tickets at a casino in Choctaw, MS, (the middle of nowhere) you have to expect Bon Jovi tickets to be expensive at a casino too. Those acts are nowhere near the caliber of Bon Jovi.

I see no difference between seeing them at Mohegan Sun or Boston Garden. I've been saying it for years: Artists should stop playing the casinos. Plenty of other venues to play.

I'd be all fine and dandy having this conversation with you danfan. But if you look at the last three Mohegan sun pbp threads, you can see danfan bitching about the exact same thing over and over again and then everyone indulging him. He even bitched about the length with that really cool one off setlist a few years ago. Why he still sees shows at mohegan sun baffles me.

Dude. Stop going to shows there. The bitching makes you sound like a 5 year old complaining that his friend got a shinier toy than you.... for 6 years straight.

Maybe it was an April Fools Joke...

Wow!!! In all seriousness, that was a complete disaster... Dan Fan is right... Jon is doing a lot of lip syncing... This is not going to go over well which explains the no screen situation...

https://youtu.be/Fa1O4nRyWUQ

What...the....hell. How. What? There's no way this is going to get released, right?

Can anyone else at the show give their take on what they think happened?

Another angle of the song.

Wow.... So at the 4.20 mark or thereabouts... Jon and David point at each other... Can Jon only hear himself/the band in his IEM? He can't hear the track being played over the top?

Thanks for the link btw

Another weird part is, later on Jon is singing and nothing is coming out... Is there a delay???

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It's almost like in that video that was posted on the YouTube thread earlier... Where the PA blew but the band didn't notice. They were singing and playing still.

It's like Jon thinks he's singing the right part, can hear himself and the band... But the music over the top is at a different place... Like the PA is out of sync? I don't know. I have no idea about the technology they use on stage

I don't know what to think... there is no doubt Jon is singing... Maybe he just sings over himself if needs to take a breath... and the tracks just weren't in sync...

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What does David hear in his IEM mix? He seems to realise at some point that they are out of sync

I don't get it... Jon stopped and restarted Born To Follow in Philly so I don't think he's lip syncing the entire show... I think maybe it has to do with the auto tuning of his voice... I really don't know...

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Definitely not lip syncing the whole show. The Bad Medicine clip of him in the crowd at Philly wasn't. Didn't look like it anyway. There are plenty other clips where he's definitely singing.
And on this THINFS clip he appears to be singing?... you just can't hear him.

Could this be what those black dots mean on the setlist? The songs that require auto tune or lipsynced moments?

Jon needs to lip synch during THINFS. I rest my case about him sounding like crap on this tour.

That explains the static setlists. He must be singing on top of back tracks for a lot of songs.

If it was just a lipsnycing issue only the vocals would be the problem but you can hear the drums doubled and out of sync. I'm not sure that's what this is.

I agree.... If he was solely lip syncing, shouldn't he be able to hear the track and sing/mime the right verse in the right place?

In that clip it's almost like he can hear something totally different in his ear and is singing at the point he thinks the song is at

Wow. WTF

How embarrassing.