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ThePunisher 04-01-2017 07:54 PM

Philadelphia show will not be released
 
Sad news to report. They are not releasing the live audio from last night in Philly. They have also pulled it from the ordering section of their website. I don't know why they decided to not put it out but I will do my best to find out.

Bounce7800 04-01-2017 09:14 PM

That would be a great shame given the positive feedback. And a worrying precedent for them to pick and choose what shows to release.

Nige 04-01-2017 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1222212)
That would be a great shame given the positive feedback. And a worrying precedent for them to pick and choose what shows to release.

Maybe it's completely out of their control though - possibly technical problems with the recording.

Kev 04-01-2017 11:17 PM

I'm hoping this is an April Fool. Last nights show kicked some serious ass...

ThePunisher 04-01-2017 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev (Post 1222215)
I'm hoping this is an April Fool. Last nights show kicked some serious ass...

How can it be an April fools when they pulled the show from being sold on their website?

symbeline 04-02-2017 12:00 AM

Lucky me! Now that I was going to buy a show :rolleyes:

Thanks for the heads-up

Captmorgs 04-02-2017 12:37 AM

If it isn't a technical issue, maybe they're pleased with it and plan to release it as an official DVD?


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Thomas S 04-02-2017 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1222222)
If it isn't a technical issue, maybe they're pleased with it and plan to release it as an official DVD?


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Now THAT would be awesome.

Kokutetsu101 04-02-2017 10:17 AM

What about San jose?
That's gone from the list too, do you think they'll be planning on releasing that show from San Jose too as a DVD?

bonjovi90 04-02-2017 10:56 AM

I actually don't think they have any plans to release a current concert.

Kokutetsu101 04-02-2017 11:23 AM

Why is that?

bonjovi90 04-02-2017 12:28 PM

I guess for the same reason why there aren't any screens included in the stage design, why there hasn't been a single live video on the band's YT channel and why there hasn't been any live webcast so far.
Jon's struggles are probably too obvious when watching it through Pro Shot cameras. All the magic that makes him sound ok-ish when you're there in person would be gone then.

Kokutetsu101 04-02-2017 01:11 PM

I thought he was slowly getting better

kenobi_on_a_prayer 04-02-2017 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kokutetsu101 (Post 1222293)
I thought he was slowly getting better

Slowly... I don't think he's there yet.

ThePunisher 04-02-2017 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kokutetsu101 (Post 1222281)
What about San jose?
That's gone from the list too, do you think they'll be planning on releasing that show from San Jose too as a DVD?


According to the person I spoke to in charge of these shows, San Jose had so many recording issues that they could not fix. This happens all the time with moving productions. You just never hear about it because there's never a reason to pay attention to it, unless they have something going on like releasing shows.

Kokutetsu101 04-03-2017 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kenobi_on_a_prayer (Post 1222305)
Slowly... I don't think he's there yet.

Idk but i was thinking if he is improving slowly maybe he might be able to sing...lets say only lonely or stg like that. I mean he was able to sing that in2010 and his voice was shot before that too but he improved.

Lucky0003 04-03-2017 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1222222)
If it isn't a technical issue, maybe they're pleased with it and plan to release it as an official DVD?


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That's what I was thinking. It was a great show!


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efpg0708 04-03-2017 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kenobi_on_a_prayer (Post 1222305)
Slowly... I don't think he's there yet.

I think there is zero chance of a DVD release of the current tour. Even though Jon seems to be getting more comfortable on stage as the tour ends, his voice is still in pretty bad shape. He's stil struggling to sing any high notes, and he's still sounding thin and flat on every demading song. A DVD with proshot material would kill any credibility he has left.

I'm happy that he seems to be putting more energy into the shows though.

Panda 04-03-2017 08:43 AM

Talking to Seb - He reckons why Philadelphia both sounded great and is unavailable to record is because Jon lip synced too much of the show and there was parts of the show that couldn't be translated in a 'live' way onto the recording.

Thomas S 04-03-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1222360)
Talking to Seb - He reckons why Philadelphia both sounded great and is unavailable to record is because Jon lip synced too much of the show and there was parts of the show that couldn't be translated in a 'live' way onto the recording.

Seems very unlikely. Why is he lipsyncing heaps on this show and not others? How come nobody noticed? Remember he jumped into the pit and got right up to the fans – there is a 0% chance he lip synced then. Surely we would be able to tell from the videos on youtube. After all, he never manages to perfectly lip sync that one line from Prayer, so there's no way he'd be able to flawlessly do it an entire show.

Panda 04-03-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1222361)
Seems very unlikely. Why is he lipsyncing heaps on this show and not others? How come nobody noticed? Remember he jumped into the pit and got right up to the fans – there is a 0% chance he lip synced then. Surely we would be able to tell from the videos on youtube. After all, he never manages to perfectly lip sync that one line from Prayer, so there's no way he'd be able to flawlessly do it an entire show.

Not saying he did the whole show. I'm just saying it was introduced more recently, which is he sounded better in certain songs + why he seemed to have more energy.

ThePunisher 04-03-2017 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1222366)
Not saying he did the whole show. I'm just saying it was introduced more recently, which is he sounded better in certain songs + why he seemed to have more energy.


I will be very clear on this. I was very vocal to when they were having issues with Phoenix and San Diego recordings. I have contacts now who I can email and they respond right away when I have questions. Lip Syncing is not the reason why Philly is not being released.

bonjovi90 04-03-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1222389)
I will be very clear on this. I was very vocal to when they were having issues with Phoenix and San Diego recordings. I have contacts now who I can email and they respond right away when I have questions. Lip Syncing is not the reason why Philly is not being released.

Then what is the reason?

steel_horse75 04-03-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1222389)
I will be very clear on this. I was very vocal to when they were having issues with Phoenix and San Diego recordings. I have contacts now who I can email and they respond right away when I have questions. Lip Syncing is not the reason why Philly is not being released.

Do it then billy big bOllOcks!

Kathleen 04-05-2017 11:59 PM

Well this was bad information - I just downloaded Philadelphia :D They seem to have left out The Fighter this time :(

Tooka 04-06-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1222672)
Well this was bad information - I just downloaded Philadelphia :D They seem to have left out The Fighter this time :(

A bit out of the loop here, where are you guys downloading the shows from?

Kathleen 04-06-2017 12:10 AM

We bought the show - they sent a download link - and now I have it :) I was surprised because the last we had heard from this thread, it was not being released.

Tooka 04-06-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1222675)
We bought the show - they sent a download link - and now I have it :) I was surprised because the last we had heard from this thread, it was not being released.

I see :)

So it's not like what Metallica is doing, go to the website and pay/download the live shows, because i looked on bonjovi.com and couldn't find anything.

How did you buy the show?

Kokutetsu101 04-06-2017 12:15 AM

Why did they leave out fighter?

Kathleen 04-06-2017 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tooka (Post 1222676)
I see :)

So it's not like what Metallica is doing, go to the website and pay/download the live shows, because i looked on bonjovi.com and couldn't find anything.

How did you buy the show?

It was pre-ordered. It is still on the list and able to be purchased. I just checked.

Kathleen 04-06-2017 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1222678)
It was pre-ordered. It is still on the list and able to be purchased.

It also appears to not be the Philly show :( It's the same as Detroit - so I am not sure what they are doing :(

The email said it was Philadelphia and even the artwork says:

Bon Jovi Live-Wells Fargo Center-Philadelphia PA-3.31.2017

ThePunisher 04-06-2017 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1222678)
It was pre-ordered. It is still on the list and able to be purchased. I just checked.

The Philly show has been off the list since the day after the show and I was told in an email from a person who edits these shows that it wasn't being released. It just reappeared 3 hours ago to buy again.

Kathleen 04-06-2017 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1222680)
The Philly show has been off the list since the day after the show and I was told in an email from a person who edits these shows that it wasn't being released. It just reappeared 3 hours ago to buy again.


They sent a link out to people who preordered saying it was Philadelphia. But the show that downloaded was Detroit :(

ThePunisher 04-06-2017 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1222681)
They sent a link out to people who preordered saying it was Philadelphia. But the show that downloaded was Detroit :(

Kathleen,

I sent him an email to let them know. He always gets back to me in the morning.

Kathleen 04-06-2017 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1222683)
Kathleen,

I sent him an email to let them know. He always gets back to me in the morning.

Thank you - I actually did the downloading but the link was sent to a friend in Germany who is traveling here for the MSG shows. He has been staying at my house which is why I did the downloading. I would imagine that they would get several complaints LOL.

Kathleen 04-06-2017 11:33 PM

If anyone has heard anything about this Philadelphia show - please let me know. It would be appreciated. One person is traveling and they are not getting back to him in a timely manner.

symbeline 04-07-2017 03:09 PM

Thanks Kathleen for the heads-up. I was going to buy but I'm a highly suspicious person so I waited to confirm it was the real one

I hope you get a refund if they don't release Philly

ThePunisher 04-07-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1222871)
Thanks Kathleen for the heads-up. I was going to buy but I'm a highly suspicious person so I waited to confirm it was the real one

I hope you get a refund if they don't release Philly

The word I got is they don't know and they don't have the files from Philly.

Kathleen 04-07-2017 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1222880)
The word I got is they don't know and they don't have the files from Philly.

Oh boy - rolling my eyes here. So then why did Philly go back on the list? I know you don't know - I'm just aggravated.

ThePunisher 04-10-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1222896)
Oh boy - rolling my eyes here. So then why did Philly go back on the list? I know you don't know - I'm just aggravated.

Have you gotten any resolution to this? They have stopped responding to me.


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