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Captain.Crash 04-12-2017 04:45 AM

LYHOM
"From now on hits hits and nothing but hits".... Apparently the same ones as last night...

Savvi 04-12-2017 04:51 AM

01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Knockout
03. You Give Love a Bad Name
04. Lost Highway
05. Whole Lot of Leaving
06. Roller Coaster
07. We Weren't Born to Follow
08. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
09. We Got It Going On
10. Who Says You Can't Go Home
11. It's My Life
12. We Don't Run
13. God Bless This Mess
14. Scars on This Guitar
15. New Year's Day
16. Lay Your Hands On Me
17. Born to Be My Baby

Thomas S 04-12-2017 04:56 AM

This is inexcusable... the same set as last night. The encore will probably be different but that isn't enough!!

Savvi 04-12-2017 04:56 AM

01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Knockout
03. You Give Love a Bad Name
04. Lost Highway
05. Whole Lot of Leaving
06. Roller Coaster
07. We Weren't Born to Follow
08. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
09. We Got It Going On
10. Who Says You Can't Go Home
11. It's My Life
12. We Don't Run
13. God Bless This Mess
14. Scars on This Guitar
15. New Year's Day
16. Lay Your Hands On Me
17. Born to Be My Baby
18. Have a Nice Day

Captain.Crash 04-12-2017 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1223240)
This is inexcusable... the same set as last night. The encore will probably be different but that isn't enough!!

Try paying for both nights....

Thomas S 04-12-2017 05:01 AM

https://www.facebook.com/donna.nunan1

New stream

Bad Medicine now

EDIT: They restarted BM because Jon forgot the words to the first verse.

Thomas S 04-12-2017 05:03 AM

Also, breaking news!!
Not sure if anyone's noticed or not but John Shanks isn't wearing his backwards baseball cap. Biggest surprise of the night.

Captain.Crash 04-12-2017 05:05 AM

JBJ went deep into the crowd....And on the front row was a girl from the make a wish foundation. He went right to her and gave her a kiss and high five.
Great move.

Thomas S 04-12-2017 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Crash (Post 1223246)
JBJ went deep into the crowd....And on the front row was a girl from the make a wish foundation. He went right to her and gave her a kiss and high five.
Great move.

Yep, props to Jon for doing that.

Savvi 04-12-2017 05:07 AM

01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Knockout
03. You Give Love a Bad Name
04. Lost Highway
05. Whole Lot of Leaving
06. Roller Coaster
07. We Weren't Born to Follow
08. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
09. We Got It Going On
10. Who Says You Can't Go Home
11. It's My Life
12. We Don't Run
13. God Bless This Mess
14. Scars on This Guitar
15. New Year's Day
16. Lay Your Hands On Me
17. Born to Be My Baby
18. Have a Nice Day
19. Bad Medicine
20. Keep the Faith

bounce442 04-12-2017 05:13 AM

I'll never understand why he didn't at least swap NYD for DITT. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but my goodness

Walleris 04-12-2017 05:13 AM

New Year's Day is immovable even on back to backs :mad:

bounce442 04-12-2017 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1223252)
New Year's Day is immovable even on back to backs :mad:

Apparently so. :confused: But being that was DITT's spot for 4/5 of the tour, you'd think he wouldn't be too opposed to giving the fans who paid for two nights a little something different.

ThePunisher 04-12-2017 05:18 AM

Wake me up when Bon Jovi is Bon Jovi again....

Captain.Crash 04-12-2017 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1223255)
Wake me up when Bon Jovi is Bon Jovi again....

Wake up. Always.

Thomas S 04-12-2017 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Crash (Post 1223256)
Wake up. Always.

Now that's a nice surprise :D

Please please please let this encore be more than 3 songs!!

MellyMel 04-12-2017 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bounce442 (Post 1223197)
ONLY... the tour where the ONLY rarity was I Got the Girl. :wink:

I saw the Vegas show with that song. I would have never predicted that the Vegas show would be the one with the rarity.

Thomas S 04-12-2017 05:23 AM

New link

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1vOxwYjEEkqGB

Walleris 04-12-2017 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePunisher (Post 1223255)
Wake me up when Bon Jovi is Bon Jovi again....

Wake me up when Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant again... makes as much sense. Once you lose it, it's over. You either accept it and still enjoy it or move on with other artists or hobbies.

bounce442 04-12-2017 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1223259)

God bless you

Captain.Crash 04-12-2017 05:28 AM

Crash.....

Thomas S 04-12-2017 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Crash (Post 1223263)
Crash.....

Not what I was hoping for, but it's something different at least!!

ThePunisher 04-12-2017 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1223260)
Wake me up when Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant again... makes as much sense. Once you lose it, it's over. You either accept it and still enjoy it or move on with other artists or hobbies.

Ok father. I will bow down to you and listen. I'm sorry.

Captain.Crash 04-12-2017 05:35 AM

Wanted with Phil on second verse.

Savvi 04-12-2017 05:51 AM

01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Knockout
03. You Give Love a Bad Name
04. Lost Highway
05. Whole Lot of Leaving
06. Roller Coaster
07. We Weren't Born to Follow
08. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
09. We Got It Going On
10. Who Says You Can't Go Home
11. It's My Life
12. We Don't Run
13. God Bless This Mess
14. Scars on This Guitar
15. New Year's Day
16. Lay Your Hands On Me
17. Born to Be My Baby
18. Have a Nice Day
19. Bad Medicine
20. Keep the Faith

21. Always
22. Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen from Mars
23. Wanted Dead or Alive
24. Livin' on a Prayer

Rdkopper 04-12-2017 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1223211)
The actual set list is in the first post of each tour thread. Plus those set lists are hardly going to be mistaken for the real thing tbf

Understand but it's still annoying... I check in periodically to get updates and when you factor in time zones, etc. it's frustrating to look at a fake set list wondering when the real on starts... The first post isn't updated until the show is over and by that time, I have it figured out...

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Captain.Crash 04-12-2017 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1223267)
01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Knockout
03. You Give Love a Bad Name
04. Lost Highway
05. Whole Lot of Leaving
06. Roller Coaster
07. We Weren't Born to Follow
08. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
09. We Got It Going On
10. Who Says You Can't Go Home
11. It's My Life
12. We Don't Run
13. God Bless This Mess
14. Scars on This Guitar
15. New Year's Day
16. Lay Your Hands On Me
17. Born to Be My Baby
18. Have a Nice Day
19. Bad Medicine
20. Keep the Faith

21. Always
22. Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen from Mars
23. Wanted Dead or Alive
24. Livin' on a Prayer

As someone that paid for both nights I have to say im not too happy. He made a point of asking how many people were here last night then plays the exact same main set?

Always or not, that's a joke. Ive been to a ton of back to backs in Toronto and this is a first, even for Jon who we all get annoyed with when it comes to setlists.

Its as simple as removing WLOL or WWBTF for Runaway and Swapping NYD with either DITT or LWTG. 2 changes to the main set and 2 different songs in the encore and I wouldn't say a thing, but I went in with low expectations and this managed to piss me off.

Kokutetsu101 04-12-2017 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Crash (Post 1223256)
Wake up. Always.

Cool they did always!

efpg0708 04-12-2017 06:57 AM

I know that the shows are still enjoyable and when you're there blablabla, but this is the most boring tour ever.

Faceman 04-12-2017 07:01 AM

I don't like it either but it's the setlist that could be expected. Especially after Jon's illness-break.
Two changes during the encore is actually more than I expected.

Rdkopper 04-12-2017 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1223271)
I know that the shows are still enjoyable and when you're there blablabla, but this is the most boring tour ever.

I think most are in agreement about the set-lists needing change... which has nothing to do with being there in person...

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Walleris 04-12-2017 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1223272)
I don't like it either but it's the setlist that could be expected. Especially after Jon's illness-break.
Two changes during the encore is actually more than I expected.

Yup. It's a terrible tour overall (in every aspect imaginable), but once you adjust your expectations, this set with this encore was not bad at all.

Can't wait to watch Always and criticize the crap out of Jon's performance!

Burlhouse 04-12-2017 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1223275)
Can't wait to watch Always and criticize the crap out of Jon's performance!


Criticise away!

https://www.facebook.com/bonjoviband...8480833925324/



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Walleris 04-12-2017 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burlhouse (Post 1223278)
Criticise away!

https://www.facebook.com/bonjoviband...8480833925324/



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Thanks!

Well, this was almost OK-ish! Obviously, a complete shoutfest in attempt to reach the high notes at any cost, which is once again, does his voice no good long term, but he is an idiot in that sense, so what else is new. At least, he could actually touch the right key this time.

Somewhere in the middle between Greenville and LA.

Still, can't understand why he doesn't try more easier ballads - IBTFY or BOR, who are almost as massive and would get the same reaction.

BJFan99 04-12-2017 08:25 AM

He did it. HE F***ING DID IT!!!!!

How the hell is it possible that Jon can hit the notes on Always, but not on Who Says You Can't Go Home and Captain Crash? I have no idea. All I know is that Jon hasn't sounded this good on Always since April 2013.

Walleris 04-12-2017 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1223282)
He did it. HE F***ING DID IT!!!!!

How the hell is it possible that Jon can hit the notes on Always, but not on Who Says You Can't Go Home and Captain Crash? I have no idea. All I know is that Jon hasn't sounded this good on Always since April 2013.

The same way it is possible for you to sprint at your maximum speed for 100 meters, but you can only run much slower during the 90-minute soccer match. He goes for Always like his life depends on it.

After Greenville (which had a much better Always) I called this Jon at 120% non-sustainable effort and off course I was right, as always (end of jerk off).

efpg0708 04-12-2017 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1223273)
I think most are in agreement about the set-lists needing change... which has nothing to do with being there in person...

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Now I'm confused. You've been saying all along that the sets need change, but when you're there you enjoy the show. And now setlists and you being there don't have anything in commom ?

When I say this tour is a complete bore, I'm not talking about setlists alone, but the whole thing. Sure, the shows are still enjoyable, but just a few years ago the shows were not only enjoyable, but something you'd talk about for days and keep revisiting it (hence the show threads reaching almost 800 replies, as Lisbon 2011). Now the feeling I get from the members who post reviews is: it was nice, had great fun, let me get back to work. And that's it. Even at the start of the dreadful 2013 tour we had some good material to discuss here. Now, the WOW moment is Jon going into the crowd.

I'm really amazed as how some people here adjust their level of criticism as this band becomes more and more just a fading shadow of what it was just a few yars ago. (Cleveland 2013 was awesome).

efpg0708 04-12-2017 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1223282)
He did it. HE F***ING DID IT!!!!!

How the hell is it possible that Jon can hit the notes on Always, but not on Who Says You Can't Go Home and Captain Crash? I have no idea. All I know is that Jon hasn't sounded this good on Always since April 2013.

He shouted most of the high parts. Even though it was better than recent performances, it still a pretty bad one. I still don't get why he doesn't play a downtuned acoustic version of this song.

Panda 04-12-2017 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1223282)
He did it. HE F***ING DID IT!!!!!

How the hell is it possible that Jon can hit the notes on Always, but not on Who Says You Can't Go Home and Captain Crash? I have no idea. All I know is that Jon hasn't sounded this good on Always since April 2013.

Can you show me the version you're hearing? :confused::confused:


Phil KILLED that ending solo though. So. good.

nickolai 04-12-2017 08:52 AM

The average casual fan/person could either only afford one night or only be able to attend one night so it's a no brainier for the set lists to be similar. The majority of BJ fans that attend these shows are not the type people on Jovitalk. More than likely the majority of people at these shows only go to one Jovi show when it rolls into their city.


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