Originally Posted by Gabriel Shoes (Post 1223362)

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While there are people like this​, it'll never happen.

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1223364)

Why are you questioning this?

Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1223365)

People are subject to their opinion. But it's kinda like laughing at people who love eating poop. That poop might have been a really great thing earlier, but it sure as heck isn't now.

This is what you sound like, but with a different lens:

"This poop came from steak! How dare you judge me for liking poop that used to be a good steak - I guess no one hear is a fan of steak! If you can't appreciate steak when it's like this, then I guess you're not a fan of steak at all!"

A lot of people just like a pile of shit and it's really funny. Hell yeah I like what it used to be, but now it's poop. And I don't like poop.

Originally Posted by panda (Post 1223365)

people are subject to their opinion. But it's kinda like laughing at people who love eating poop. That poop might have been a really great thing earlier, but it sure as heck isn't now.

This is what you sound like, but with a different lens:

"this poop came from steak! How dare you judge me for liking poop that used to be a good steak - i guess no one hear is a fan of steak! If you can't appreciate steak when it's like this, then i guess you're not a fan of steak at all!"

a lot of people just like a pile of shit and it's really funny. Hell yeah i like what it used to be, but now it's poop. And i don't like poop.

Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1223365)

People are subject to their opinion. But it's kinda like laughing at people who love eating poop. That poop might have been a really great thing earlier, but it sure as heck isn't now.
This is what you sound like, but with a different lens:

"This poop came from steak! How dare you judge me for liking poop that used to be a good steak - I guess no one hear is a fan of steak! If you can't appreciate steak when it's like this, then I guess you're not a fan of steak at all!"

A lot of people just like a pile of shit and it's really funny. Hell yeah I like what it used to be, but now it's poop. And I don't like poop.

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1223377)

So then you are calling me poop? Very nice, but I guess that's what trolls like to do, hide behind a name like "Panda"and call other ppl here names, like "poop" very classy! SMH

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1223378)

Rosa, he's just a complete reject and an absolute poison... It took you less then a month to figure him out... He truly might be the biggest Jerkoff in the history of social media...

The bottom line is, some people can't accept an aged rock star struggling to give his all on stage... He's probably working harder than he's ever had to deliver everything he's got left in him.... People like us applaud him for that while others selfishness comes out... Jon's doing 2 and a half hour sets and the performances aren't half bad. They are not perfect and he set lists could be better but I still had a great time at the show I attended and so did the 20 thousand people in attendance... End of story...

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1223371)

I can't remember a more polarizing Always performance. Everything from Jon's vocals to Phil's solos. (For the record, I thought Jon was decent and Phil was killer).


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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1223365)

People are subject to their opinion. But it's kinda like laughing at people who love eating poop. That poop might have been a really great thing earlier, but it sure as heck isn't now.

This is what you sound like, but with a different lens:

"This poop came from steak! How dare you judge me for liking poop that used to be a good steak - I guess no one hear is a fan of steak! If you can't appreciate steak when it's like this, then I guess you're not a fan of steak at all!"

A lot of people just like a pile of shit and it's really funny. Hell yeah I like what it used to be, but now it's poop. And I don't like poop.

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1223364)

Why are you questioning this?

Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1223392)

Man I could really go for a good steak....


:(

Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1223394)

Try this one. This steak has aged a bit, but it's still good. Since we were in the Always discussion.

Bon Jovi - Always - Live Chicago 2010 - YouTube

Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1223389)

Because like many people, he thinks that the 2017 Bon Jovi is shit. But he doesn't act like a 10 year old child when someone says the band is still great.

Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1223405)

Everyone who saw the show loved it!!! and didn't you see the boys are getting rave reviews???

yeah jon may struggle a bit these days but he's human leave him alone you stupid keyboard warriors!!! he still kicks ass like a fine wine keeps getting better am right ladies???

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1223418)

That pretty much is the most humorous thread we've had here in a long time :D

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1223377)

So then you are calling me poop? Very nice, but I guess that's what trolls like to do, hide behind a name like "Panda"and call other ppl here names, like "poop" very classy! SMH

Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1223433)

As I said in other thread, if pearl jam played same venue for two nights, bar the staples, the entire set would change.

90 songs rehearsed my backside.

The entire tour has been 95% the same drab set list.

Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1223433)

As I said in other thread, if pearl jam played same venue for two nights, bar the staples, the entire set would change.

90 songs rehearsed my backside.

The entire tour has been 95% the same drab set list.

Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1223439)

This.

Playing a copy/paste setlist two nights at the same venue is inexcusable.

John Mayer is only 9 shows into his tour and has already played 51 different songs. And he literally has 1/4 of the catalog Bon Jovi has.

BJ has played 26 shows and only 39 different songs.

Pathetic.

Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1223447)

Then go to John Mayer's shows and stop going to Bon Jovi shows if you are so unhappy! SMH

Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1223439)

This.

Playing a copy/paste setlist two nights at the same venue is inexcusable.

John Mayer is only 9 shows into his tour and has already played 51 different songs. And he literally has 1/4 of the catalog Bon Jovi has.

BJ has played 26 shows and only 39 different songs.

Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1223451)

Bon Jovi also has 3 musicians on stage that are somewhat new to the Bon Jovi catalog... And I think 40 songs for 26 shows isn't a bad number at all...

Jon may not do it like he used to but he still does it better than most...

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1223453)

Phil X learned an entire setlist for Jon in less than 2 days when Richie left. There is no excuse.

Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1223439)

This.

.

John Mayer is only 9 shows into his tour and has already played 51 different songs. And he literally has 1/4 of the catalog Bon Jovi has.



Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1223451)

Bon Jovi also has 3 musicians on stage that are somewhat new to the Bon Jovi catalog... And I think 40 songs for 26 shows isn't a bad number at all...

Jon may not do it like he used to but he still does it better than most...

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Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1223447)

Then go to John Mayer's shows and stop going to Bon Jovi shows if you are so unhappy! SMH

Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1223459)

I honestly am starting to think that rosa3 is a troll.

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1223451)

Bon Jovi also has 3 musicians on stage that are somewhat new to the Bon Jovi catalog... And I think 40 songs for 26 shows isn't a bad number at all...

Jon may not do it like he used to but he still does it better than most...

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1223478)

Everett has been with Jon off and on since late 90s. Phil knows the catalog enough from the past few tours. This excuse is a cop out. It's the same damn songs as last tour and that's the biggest gripe. They could have learned a different set of album tracks. To have that many albums and pull the same songs out tour after tour is absolutely a justifiable complain. Phil, John and Everett are professionals who went through rigorous rehearsals for the tour.

Originally Posted by scottyleafs (Post 1223467)

Hey,

As a long time lurker, I wanted to give my thoughts/observations from this show.



This was my 12th Jovi show and 1st one in Toronto. I normally attend the Montreal shows because it's the closest city to me and because they always deliver there. When Jon sings I love This Town in Montreal, he means it. Since there weren't any dates there this tour, I thought I'd treat myself and fly to TO. Although I was sweating it out (airfare/hotel was non-refundable and I didn't book the insurance), I'm glad I traveled for this show. I was impressed with Jon and the crowd. The crowd was spectacular and definitely gave Montreal's crowd a run for its money. I could not hear Jon during It's my life as the crowd completely drowned him out which gave me goosebumps.



Jon was very energetic and did not stay glued behind his mic stand at all. He moved a lot more than the 3x I saw them in 2013. I love the fact that he doesn't have his acoustic guitar as much as last tour either.



Setlist: Like most here, I'm also disappointed in the lack of setlist changes. I was willing to bet money that A) we were getting Runaway since it wasn't performed the night before and B) Devil's In The Temple would replace New Year's Day.Well, I'm glad I didn't bet cuz I would've lost a lot of money...... I prefer NYD to Temple so I was ok with that plus it was fun watching Phil during that song, so much energy!! Bummed about no Runaway as that is one of my fav 80's tunes.



Scars really surprised me! I thought they'd lose the crowd for that one but there were many cell phone lights lighting up the ACC. Along with Come on Up To Our House & Labor Of love, these are the 3 songs I skip while listening to THINFS. The crowd enjoyed it though. Out of all the new songs and from where I was sitting, I thought We Don't Run didn't go over very well. Lastly, Whole Lot Of leavin needs to go!!! The crowd did not care for it all. The LH/Leavin combo is brutal. I like these songs on CD but man, they are so boring live.



Encore: I told my wife before Always started that Captain Crash better not open the encore like it did the last time I saw them in Nov 2013. I pouted throughout the song because I thought we deserved Dry County. Well, we got Always (half expecting) and I'll take a less stellar version than no version. I thought it was decent. Once again, the crowd drowned Jon out for most of it and Phil X's solo was great! Next up, hoping for Blood or Sat Night and I get.... yup Captain Crash!! Ugh!! After the song, Jon recognized a girl in the 2nd row dressed in a supergirl costume who was in the nose bleeds at the Cleveland show. He said you got Crash from the cheap seats and now 2nd row. We have 2 more shows this tour and you could get it from another seat. So, thanks supergirl.......After Prayer, I thought we'd get 1 more song because of the way Jon was taking in the applause from Toronto. He's done this at every Montreal show as well to which we'd get another encore, but not this time. So, a little disappointed but he hasn't done a 2nd encore this tour so it wasn't surprising.



I thought Jon's vocals for the most part were pretty good, especially after being sick for a week. His energy level was top notch and the band played great. I didn't miss Richie at all. I didn't pay any attention to Everett Bradley at the concert but after watching some of the videos I took, wow! He is entertaining!



Overall, I thought it was a great show! For me, these 4 suggestions would have made it epic a) Runaway, b) 1 more ballad, preferably BOR, c) 1 song from Bounce, preferably Undivided/Bounce, and d) 1 other song from Crush instead of Captain Crash (older/one wild night/say it isn't so). I'm glad I didn't attend both shows because I'd of been angry with the lack of changes. I attend both nights in Montreal and am used to a minimum of 6 changes. If they ever play 2 nights there again, I will only be attending night 2.



For anyone wanting to travel to see Jovi, you will get great shows in TO & in Montreal. If I ever travel to see them again, seeing them in NYC is on my bucket list.



Thanks