HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I can't stop laughing reading this one.

Still nothing on the setlist, hey? I suppose if something different happened we probably would have heard about it by now.

Bjaco67467 already said that the set was same as Toronto, but the encore was Runaway, Blood on Blood, Wanted, Prayer.

Oh missed it. Right well.... great.

Now we got more backtracks? It's My Life and We Don't run
https://scontent-gru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...16&oe=5995E263

Pretty sure It's My Life has always had a backing track

Maybe indeed :D

Please never change Rosa ;)

I still believe that rosa is just someone trolling

The only thing that would make me think otherwise would be if she bought some confetti recently ...

13th April 2017 - Madison Square Garden, New York, Night 1 Thread
 

Pretty much any Bon Jovi post on Facebook is filled with rosas in the comment section, so I think we're safe here. It's not outrageous to think that one of them found this board and joined.

Or I'd like to believe so, cause it's way more fun this way!

What would I do if I told you that her account IS an alias and it is in fact all trolling?

So she's dutch ??

Haven't been on this board in a really long time....I took a break from BJ pretty much after their last tour. Rediscovered and listened to other bands (especially U2)

My thoughts on tonight's concert (I haven't had time to read this thread yet)

I really thought Jon sounded like shit for the first couple of songs....can't really explain it.........just sounded strange. I did feel as the show went on, he was sounding better and better. I was in section 106.

I love the new songs, there was a lot of chatter during most of them but Rollercoaster went over really well. The crowd went wild when Jon announced there would be nothing but hits. I did like how he told a little story introducing each new song...am hoping for devil's in the temple on Saturday.

Was so thankful captain crash wasn't played as I hate that song. Had a great time, going back on Saturday, hoping to see some changes but not holding my breath. I still have the last 2 meadowland shows in my mind and how annoyed I was with practically the same setlists on those two nights.

Good to know you had a good time. I was at the two Meadowlands shows too and remember being so pissed because of the carbon copy setlists.

I was onstage before the show. They didn't even bother changing out the setlists from toronto by their mics because yeah #yawn

Still fun night though.

Panda's right. It's My Life has had backing tracks since day 1. But also the black dot thing was something we came up with so it's not totally confirmed those are the ones with backing tracks.

Is the final setlist confirmed? 22 songs only?

Regarding the black dots, are you sure they represent backing tracks? I mean, it is really not very useful information for the band when they are on stage. Even if it did have backing tracks on these songs, what would that mean to anyone?

What I think is that for example, if this is PhilX' setlist, black dots could represent the songs where he plays solos.
So, Shanks maybe has setlist with dots in other places, or whatever..

It was 24 songs

Really??? Oh my...

It's in the first post. Audibles were Runaway & Blood On Blood.

They've even just given up with the printing of the setlists. That's literally going to be tomorrows setlist too. First 20, Audibles, Wanted, Prayer. Disappointing.

The guitar techs have a bunch of different setlists under the stage posted on their pin boards not from any particular show though but it gives an outline of what keys the songs are in and what guitars are needed. I saw one setlist (maybe from rehearsal?) Where the show goes THINFS to Knockout to Wild In the Streets to Bad name.

Wild in the Streets? Now that is one I'd give an arm and a leg to hear.

MWAHAHA!
I saw what you did there! ;)

Definitely don't want to hear Jon butcher that one


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Judging from a video on the Phil X Fan club facebook page it seems like Jon did the first verse and chorus of Blood On Blood acoustic, then the rest of the band joined in after the chorus.

Seriously?? You don't want the set-lists changed because you don't want to hear him song other songs with his current voice? Doesn't make any sense to me.

For me this is best setlist so far of the tour. I only would have added Living With the Ghost and Working Man instead of We Got I Goin' On and Whole Lot of Leavin'. Also think they should have include all the audibles to the setlist, to get a longer setlist, but that's me.


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Wishful thinking but since Shanks does the solo for Knockout and Phil for We Don't Run, a setlist wouldnt exist with black dots on both. The black dots representing backing tracks makes the most sense but still isn't 100 percent confirmed.

You'd think if that was the reason they were there they wouldn't post those setlists online for all to see, people start asking questions at that point.

Is that rhetorical? Because I have no idea what you would do. :p


You didn't ask me, but if that were the case I'd tell you the troll is a copycat who stole the identity and style of another fan.

Rosa3 and I go way back on other boards. We rarely agree on everything and I agree with you that nobody has any business telling ppl what they should post; or say that they aren't good fans if they are critcal.

But I will say this: it's a rare fan, especially among those who are pro-Jon or pro-Richie, who can even acknowledge that there are 2 sides. The main line of defense for some of them is to point out flaws or weaknesses in the other guy so their guy comes out on top by comparison. Some fans on both sides actually seem to spend more time digging up dirt or bad press on "the other one" than they spend looking for real news about their hero. Kinda sick.

Rosa3 isn't like that. She's one of the few fans I know who can defend Jon without trashing Richie (or the other way around). In fact, she rarely says anything bad about anyone altho she can make critical comments to people at times, like she has here. Personally, I'll take the more direct method every time. If someone doesn't agree with me, I'd much rather they talk to me, not about me.

Just had to say that...

Carry on!

That's a relief! It is so much more entertaining when something hilarious is not an act.

I'm going again tomorrow night as a guest again of one of the band members, I can ask what they mean if you want.

My favorite way to start the song.


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I/we would love that actually!!

I would love Jon to sing other songs... just not THAT song... Give me something like Next 100 Years (a song that hasn't been played since, what, 2003??) and let Phil shred that solo


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N100Y hasn't been done since Crush tour.

Does anyone know if this was the last time Wild in the Streets was done?
Cut to 3:20 to see probably why. I can't recall if Phil has ever done Wild in the Streets.

EDIT: Scratch that, it's been done 5 times since then but not since that tour.

Nina! Hello :D So pleased to see you here again. I was wondering if you were there last night. You and I had similar reactions to the last 2 MetLife shows. I was really disgusted. In the past I had gone to many multiple shows. This tour I only had 3, Mohegan Sun and both MSG shows.

For those of you who read my Mohegan Sun review - here:
https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-j...939/page8.html
I will post a bit of additional information.

The show itself was miles better than Mohegan Sun. The sound in MSG was also far superior to Mohegan Sun. That may have been the way they mixed it at Mohegan Sun because Jon was already sick. Last night he wasn't as buried in the mix and he sounded far more like himself. Does he sound great - no. He has a decent middle register left and that's about it. The really low register is so soft you can hardly hear it and the highs sometimes sound ok - and sometimes not. That's just reality.

The energy in MSG was sky high over the top and Jon and the band was on fire. I'm looking forward to night 2 on Saturday. Hearing New Years Day was a highlight for me - it really is great live if you like the new album.

I live here and I see a lot of shows come through New York. I will repeat what I said in my previous review; This is NOT Jon embarrassing himself, it just isn't the same band (or sound) that we were all used to. It's different but it's a hell of a good show.

Review:
I was first level, right side of the stage (Phil's Side)...This time around, I had better seats which always just adds to the experience...I wasn't even going to attend this show at the original scheduled date but once people started cancelling/refunding, I just so happened to get decent priced tickets once it was rescheduled... and considering it was now 2 weeks after Philly, I said "why not".

TBH, my review is really just a carbon copy from Philly as far as the show went... The more you go, the more you observe and understand though...

For starters, Jon's entire family were standing below me in a pitted section. It was cool watching their reactions to Jon's performances... They really are a tight family... The oldest son has that "I'm in a fraternity" type of swag... Hanging out with a few of his friends, drinking beer... Him and Matt were laughing at a few girls in the front row. I think they were doing something crazy to get Jon's attention... He really didn't react much to the music. He was playing air maracas to KTF which was cool to see. Jon's wife and daughter are very close, almost like sisters... They shared a lot of laughs together.... His wife was probably into the show the most out of everyone down there... Even his family were more into the classic hits verses the new stuff and looked like fans during LYHOM, Wanted, Prayer, Etc... It was just cool watching them react to Jon. They really do seem like a great family... I can't believe how big Matt got. I remember him when he was just a litter wanna be skater punk from back in the day. He does a good job with security though... I have to hand it to him.

So back to the show:

Vocals are much better. What I think stands out the most is when Jon pronounces certain lyrics with odd syllables. It just comes off as an unnatural way of singing... But then he quickly recovers and sings fine so you forget about it...

Set List: Yeah! Song choices could be better! I wouldn't say, not switching the sets is Jon being lazy. I think he's just playing it safe. New members in combination with vocal issues is the safe approach... And that's all I'm going to say... Most acts do the exact same sets night after night with zero changes so being that it's a quick 30 date tour, I get it. Jon is still however an amazing performer. In regards to these shows, I will say that a 55 year old JBJ and a 33 year old Bon Jovi still do it better than most acts today... Not all but most... And I'll just end it there...

All in all, I had another great time. We went with a group of friends. Had dinner before and drinks after. One more show to go, tomorrow night and that's it for a while I guess... Who knows when I'll see this band again. Maybe next summer!!!

This!!!!!!

His voice is gone for the live shows. Too many tours in a row, too many shows, I think the last few years Jon's voice has worked too hard and it has definitely gone off.

All the musicians do it right, as you say, it sounds different but it's not bad at all, but this makes it clearer where the real problem is, which is Jon's voice.

I know that in the past he always had some difficult stages where his voice was gone, but he seemed to be on the show, and there was still passion to do a great performance with his limited voice. Now the thing gets worse, since I do not find any performance that really stands out.

Hope he can bring some of his voice back, and reinforce his performance, because if he does not feel safe, there will never be great performances that are worthwhile.

I understand that many fans are content to see Jon smiling, and making his poses in a show, but I need something more than that to have fun.