Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community - 15th April 2017 - Madison Square Garden, New York, Night 2 Thread

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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1223662)

There's a periscope video of the whole encore, it was 30 minutes long.

Confirmed to have gone:

Raise Your Hands
Saturday Night
Captain Crash
Wanted
Prayer

In my opinion the best encore of the tour so far (and the longest), I think 5 songs is a perfect length for an encore.

I'd trade RYH and Sat Night for Always and have a 4 song encore anyday.

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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1223662)

Any idea if they did skip Knockout?
I found a couple of Periscope feeds but they kept cutting out

Oh never mind, the setlist is on Twitter. Both Knockout and Scars are on it in the usual places. So assume played?

The main set was the same as Thursday, except that Scars on this Guitar was not played. (Knockout was played.). The encore was Raise Your Hands, Saturday Night, Captain Crash, Wanted, and Prayer. On Saturday night, Jon started playing/singing in the wrong key and restated it. On Captain Crash, he missed half of the first verse and started singing the chorus early, but he recovered. I was expecting Always as a second encore, but he seemed to be pushing his vocal limits at the end of prayer. I also think there may be an 11:00 curfew.

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1223609)

It's not that! I just get it because I'm a Super Power and understand Jon...

Jon keeps calling what's going on a rebirth... This is a brand new Bon Jovi and Jon's goal is not trying to recreate the past with these new members. He's trying to make it all seem different while staying the same... The band up there are about the new music. Shank's isn't on tour to play in a Bon Jovi classic cover band... Everett Bradley isn't there to sit out 5 or 6 songs a night. THINFS is Bon Jovi 2017 and their first album as a band... and more so a band without Richie... This is where Jon is right now... It's a rebirth and a new start...

We are now at what basically is a 30 date mini tour. Jon's goal is to create a set-list that covers everyone while keeping his voice somewhat preserved. It's not a 100 gig 8 month tour. It's just 30 shows so Jon puts together what HE THINKS is the best set-list to get through it... Something that he thinks will satisfy the different levels of fans, the old band members, the new band members, and more so, himself...

He think's he's got the winning formula! Attendance is there, the reviews have been great, the majority of people are leaving happy... Why does he need to change it? This isn't a massive world tour and they are hardly playing repeat cities. Again, why change it? To satisfy the 15 people on here who aren't even attending the shows anyway? Before the internet, in the early 90's Jon did the same thing and no one cared... 30 shows, 40 songs total... No screens, 7 new songs, story telling, 2 and a half hours shows, Jon performing like he's 30 running around and jumping into the audience...All from a guy we thought would never tour again after 2013, 2015 and even questioned more at the beginning of 2016.

These shows have been ****ing great... Reading a setlist and spot watching a select full of videos is shit and to be honest, your opinions don't validate or mean shit anyway... because everyone on here who actually did attended a show squashes everyone's opinions who hasn't attended a show to shreds... It's not just me A Rosa, it's everyone who attended...

This is WINNING as far as I'm concerned...

I totally agree. This is winning and many, many people are enjoying it. I've said before that I'm so happy BJ is still performing after all of these years. I loved the St Paul show. One day BJ will be done for good so I really appreciate them now.

No, they are not the same as 20 - 30 years ago but that's understandable. If anyone here can do better then BJ right now then have at it! Otherwise the complaints and constant negative comments need to stop. Please appreciate the guys right now and be grateful. Please.

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Urgh. People enjoying it is not a litmus test. The litmus is the capabilities of Bon Jovi as a band, and they're nowhere near it.

This is easily the worst tour they have ever done.

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1223669)

Urgh. People enjoying it is not a litmus test. The litmus is the capabilities of Bon Jovi as a band, and they're nowhere near it.

This is easily the worst tour they have ever done.

And the troll is back!!!

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Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1223670)

And the troll is back!!!

Really??? I love the fact that the band is still going, and very much hope they keep going but you really can't deny it. Saying it was the worst tour doesn't mean it was a terrible tour, it just means it wasn't as good as the others.

Please, if Panda's comment was so trolly, enlighten me. If this tour isn't the worst then which one is?

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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1223671)

The 2015 Asian one can be even worse.

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1223672)

The 2015 Asian one can be even worse.

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Yeah alright that's a fair point... but in the grand scheme of things this is still one of the worst tours.