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bonssong 04-16-2017 12:02 PM

I dont post here much .I don't know why people /Fans /whatever are saying that Bon Jovi might retire because Jons voice has changed or doesn't sound the same whatever.The band will go on until they have died.They are musicians with years ahead of them...A certain songwriter musician from the 60's is touring USA right now.In the same venues that Bon Jovi recently played to sold out crowds.He is 20 years older than Jon and still filling the arena's with his fans who love him as much as Bon Jovi's fans love Jon and the band.Bon Jovi will go on the same as this guy is..He doesn't sound the same as he did 20-40 years ago but he is going on because he is a superstar and his fans still love him just like Bon Jovi's fans will still love them in another 20 years.

Walleris 04-16-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1223684)
I've not seen any opinions which are abusive or nasty. Until then, surely we're all entitled to express our own?

You absolutely can critique a show from a YouTube video. You CAN hear songs sung poorly, witness missed cues, hear wrong notes or gage stagnant set lists. To say otherwise is ignorant. On the flip side,someone watching Jon shout a vocal rather than sing it SHOULD factor in the live experience, were it definitely is, at times, less obvious or such an issue.

I'll critique anything I feel is shit, but I won't say the live experience WAS shit as I wasn't there.

People on here saying you've no valid opinion unless you were there need to take off the blinkers and ask themselves have they never watched a live performance on YouTube or TV (BJ or any artist) and thought, "Christ that sounds BAD" - I'd be amazed if you haven't. What's the difference?

This is a message board. We all (hopefully) are still fans. If you only want the positive opinions, try Backstage.


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Incredibly well said.

The "you can't criticise unless you're there" argument never have and will never make any sense. Bands that are good sound good on Youtube, end of story.

It's fine if one finds the current performances satisfactory. It's fine if one doesn't. Problems arise when one attitude interferes with another with "trols" and "jerks" getting tossed around.

danfan 04-16-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bonssong (Post 1223685)
I dont post here much .I don't know why people /Fans /whatever are saying that Bon Jovi might retire because Jons voice has changed or doesn't sound the same whatever.The band will go on until they have died.They are musicians with years ahead of them...A certain songwriter musician from the 60's is touring USA right now.In the same venues that Bon Jovi recently played to sold out crowds.He is 20 years older than Jon and still filling the arena's with his fans who love him as much as Bon Jovi's fans love Jon and the band.Bon Jovi will go on the same as this guy is..He doesn't sound the same as he did 20-40 years ago but he is going on because he is a superstar and his fans still love him just like Bon Jovi's fans will still love them in another 20 years.

You don't know much about Jon. He won't go on if he's forced to play small theaters.

Also, the issue isn't his change of vocals. It's the detereation of them.

bjcrazycpa 04-16-2017 04:00 PM

15th April 2017 - Madison Square Garden, New York, Night 2 Thread
 
I enjoyed both MSG shows a lot out of the 7 shows I saw this leg, they were my favorite. The vibe of the garden always make those shows special. I enjoyed this leg and call me whatever you want, deaf, dumb, Jon apologist, yada, yada and I'll live with those labels lol! Where else can you wear fringe!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...511ef471f4.jpg


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gabriele 04-16-2017 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1223690)
I enjoyed both MSG shows a lot out of the 7 shows I saw this leg, they were my favorite. The vibe of the garden always make those shoes special. I enjoyed this leg and call me whatever you want, deaf, dumb, Jon apologist, yada, yada and I'll live with those labels lol! Where else can you wear fringe!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...511ef471f4.jpg


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Omg
Omg
Omg.

jovifan93 04-16-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gabriele (Post 1223691)
Omg
Omg
Omg.

C'mon, it suits her and at 52, she's still looks incredibly good! :-)

bjcrazycpa 04-16-2017 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1223692)
C'mon, it suits her and for 52, she's still looks incredibly good! :-)



Thank you! Wouldn't spend my allocated entertainment dollars if it still wasn't fun for me.


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Rdkopper 04-16-2017 05:00 PM

Review Time:
So I started in one section and ended in another... Our seats weren't horrible to start... 2nd level up on Shank's side however after being where we were for the first show, it was difficult being there... Then the stars must have been lined up. While in the beer line (during Whole Lotta Leavin) a random lady comes up to me and hands me 2 upgraded tickets (actually 3 but I only needed 2) close to the section I was in the first night down by Phil, first level... It was crazy... So I stayed for a few more songs in the okay section and went down during Who Says...

It's really night and day... Even a section can change your whole view and dynamic of a show... One level up and people were sitting during the opening and even yelling at people to "sit down in front" until Jon made everyone stand for Bad Name.... The lower sections are just the opposite. You can't get anyone to sit. People were dancing. Such a different experience...

The show itself was great again... Same old vocal/setlist feedback! The vocals were fine and not horrible. The set-list blah blah blah... I don't have a problem with repeat sets, especially in different cities, I just have a problem with the choice of songs... For example, Lost Highway and Whole Lot A Leavin need to go... I was thinking that maybe Jon is trying to include more Shanks' co-written/produced/guitar driven songs in the sets...I don't know, can't figure it out... I just don't get some of these random unknown to casual fan songs like Whole Lotta Leavin... I think what's also throwing people off are the songs being sung in the same order... Something else we are not used to. Prayer could be an opener one night and a closer the next once upon a time ago... I think if Jon randomized the sequence a little more, it wouldn't be so bad... anyway...moving on...

Jon's energy was fantastic. Just watching him was making me tired. He is in incredible shape. When you're not at these shows and just reading setlists and watching select videos on YouTube, you are only judging a fraction of what's really going on... Jon is all over that stage, dancing, interacting with all the guys... Very youthful... He is definitely not sluggish in that department...

New Songs:
THINFS and Knockout have grown to be my favorite songs off this album... When they were the first 2 songs released off the album, I was worried, especially with Knockout but seeing these songs come to life as openers, they are absolutely fantastic. Jon punching the Boom Boom Boom is awesome... NYD is also a great when Jon says '****! It's great to be in a Rock n Roll Band 1, 2, 3" and then the song kicks off... WDR is kind of a dud which is disappointing... I'm glad Jon proved that he could pull it off live because I remember everyone saying that he'll never be able to but they don't do it right... The Woooo Woooo Woooo beginning comes off too whiny or something (wrong pitch) and the song needs more attitude like in the album version. Jon sings it too soft... He's whispering the beginning... Great guitar work though.... Roller-Coaster comes off great live too... Fun song and great crowd pleaser... It's the WGIGO of THINFS...

I'm disappointed that Devil and LWTG were never done at any of the 3 shows I attended...

I touched on the encore last night (a few posts back)... Captain Crash might have been played in a record time, shortest to date... which is a good thing. I hate when mediocre songs are dragged out...

And his family was not in attendance this time around!!! I guess one show per tour was enough for them!

In summary, all three shows were really great... I get why some people are down with the sets and vocals but I can honestly say that Jon still does it better than most... Maybe not nearly as good as his younger years but he's still a great performer... He's got the energy, knows how to work a crowd, and 2.5 hour shows are still impressive... I'll rate this show 8.5 out of 10. A few better songs in the set would make it a 9.5.

I want to believe that these 29 Arena shows are just warm-ups for a bigger and better Stadium tour to come. Especially in Europe...

What's next for Jon until the 2nd leg? I don't think it's happening this summer because I'm sure tickets would have been on sale by now... Does he start writing the next album?

Captain.Crash 04-16-2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1223694)

And his family was not in attendance this time around!!! I guess one show per tour was enough for them!

His family knew he wouldn't change up the set.... so they decided to stay home.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Lucky0003 04-16-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1223690)
I enjoyed both MSG shows a lot out of the 7 shows I saw this leg, they were my favorite. The vibe of the garden always make those shows special. I enjoyed this leg and call me whatever you want, deaf, dumb, Jon apologist, yada, yada and I'll live with those labels lol! Where else can you wear fringe!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...511ef471f4.jpg


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Thanks for posting. I love it. Glad you enjoyed the shows. I sure enjoyed mine!


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