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One thing that I hate on this forum is that, people that are not in the mood with the band, or don't really follow anymore, or don't like the actual status we have on them, just trying to make the people who still like, who still feel good following the band, to hate the band. I don't get it, you are not happy? don't watch the video, don't look for it, stop bitching around tryin to make everyone think that your opinion should be everybody's opinion
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[QUOTE=Captmorgs;1223638]No worries. Seb was a long-time poster awhile back, who often claimed to have advanced leaked copies of new records and frequently embellished set lists.
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God bless this mess
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So they skipped "Knockout" and "Scars on This Guitar"?
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So Faith, and then Always and we'll see from there?
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I'm sure I've probably missed a couple. Unless they did skip Knockout? Be interesting to see what the encore is |
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There's a periscope video of the whole encore, it was 30 minutes long.
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That encore was decent enough... still having nothing more exotic than IGTG is a disappointment, and the fact that BAT wasn't even played is downright confusing.
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Oh never mind, the setlist is on Twitter. Both Knockout and Scars are on it in the usual places. So assume played?
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The main set was the same as Thursday, except that Scars on this Guitar was not played. (Knockout was played.). The encore was Raise Your Hands, Saturday Night, Captain Crash, Wanted, and Prayer. On Saturday night, Jon started playing/singing in the wrong key and restated it. On Captain Crash, he missed half of the first verse and started singing the chorus early, but he recovered. I was expecting Always as a second encore, but he seemed to be pushing his vocal limits at the end of prayer. I also think there may be an 11:00 curfew.
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I totally agree. This is winning and many, many people are enjoying it. I've said before that I'm so happy BJ is still performing after all of these years. I loved the St Paul show. One day BJ will be done for good so I really appreciate them now. No, they are not the same as 20 - 30 years ago but that's understandable. If anyone here can do better then BJ right now then have at it! Otherwise the complaints and constant negative comments need to stop. Please appreciate the guys right now and be grateful. Please. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Urgh. People enjoying it is not a litmus test. The litmus is the capabilities of Bon Jovi as a band, and they're nowhere near it.
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Just got home from the show... It was awesome! Scars was skipped and Jon going into the audience during Bad Medicine didn't happen either to make room for the 5 song encore. He forgot the words to both Saturday Night (which I knew he would do aka Saturday Night) and Captain Crash... He actually gave a nod to Phil for playing it right and him messing it up... He completely messed up the verse and went to the chorus... One thing that was really cool was Jon calling out Captain Crash to all the band members during the solo of the song played prior (which I believe was Saturday Night)... it was totally unplanned and he looked at Phil for reassurance...
So tired and drunk now so I'll stop and give a real review tomorrow.... Sent from my HTCD160LVW using Tapatalk |
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And you get to decide what the "litmus" test is for all of us???? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Agree. I am also very appreciative that they toured. Success is that they completed the tour and people showed up. Simple. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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How can anyone not appreciate that a band which began 34 years ago is still playing (with a few member changes) new material and can still write this material which can't be easy?
I applaud Jon for understanding his voice is not the same as he's aged so the new songs reflect this. He's proud of the new material and should be. A lot of work went into the new album. He recorded it because it's his passion. He is extremely grateful he still has the platform to share his music. He even admits in a song that his voice is shot but he still keeps going and everything will be okay. Most would quit but not him. And again it's because it's his passion. Jon found this passion when he was young. How many are blessed to find theirs and then be so successful? The constant degrading and complaining about every damn thing imaginable is a symptom of some very unhappy people who obviously don't have their own passion or purpose in life to fulfill them. If their passion was a band that has changed because of the passage of three decades then it's time to let it go and move on. I am very disappointed that this board cannot do better than this. I'm not saying that everything posted has to be sunshine and rainbows but sweeping generalizations that the band is sh$t from people who haven't even attended a concert during this tour is pathetic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Just when I think being woken up at 6am on a Sunday is bad, I log in here to read just tiresome moaning and bickering from supposed adults.
What is it with people these days having to always slate the opposite opinion? It's all OPINION. It's fair enough if people think JBJ's voice doesn't cut it FOR THEM these days. It's different- it's not a patch on what it has been. It's totally to be expected that people won't - Having seen the Palladium show, I found his voice perfectly fine on the new stuff, but awful on Who Says & Bad Medicine. He seems to have improved lately so will be interested to see how the hits sound in the flesh. It's totally acceptable for me and others sitting thousands of miles away to call out these U.S setlists as too static. They are. They always are in the states. It seems like people are happy with that, so that's what you get. Obviously those of us who have done multiple European shows are spoiled, but it's what this band has led us to expect over the years. People don't have a piss break during Dry County over here. The first 20 songs being the same every night and only switching out a couple of songs in the encore is not good enough. There's no excuse for it. If you enjoy the show, and why wouldn't you, I always enjoy watching my favourite band perform their songs, that's great and it's good to hear reviews and observations. But people can be critical - it's not just "Bon Jovi are shit lolz" it's constructive criticism - people want them to be better. So play nice and try and discuss like adults. |
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I've not seen any opinions which are abusive or nasty. Until then, surely we're all entitled to express our own?
You absolutely can critique a show from a YouTube video. You CAN hear songs sung poorly, witness missed cues, hear wrong notes or gage stagnant set lists. To say otherwise is ignorant. On the flip side,someone watching Jon shout a vocal rather than sing it SHOULD factor in the live experience, were it definitely is, at times, less obvious or such an issue. I'll critique anything I feel is shit, but I won't say the live experience WAS shit as I wasn't there. People on here saying you've no valid opinion unless you were there need to take off the blinkers and ask themselves have they never watched a live performance on YouTube or TV (BJ or any artist) and thought, "Christ that sounds BAD" - I'd be amazed if you haven't. What's the difference? This is a message board. We all (hopefully) are still fans. If you only want the positive opinions, try Backstage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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