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rosa3 08-23-2017 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1227044)
Jon needs to make a hard decision. Right now, we're not only getting sub standard vocals, but also zero stage presence. The two together are disastrous for a band with such a rich live legacy as Bon Jovi.

I've said this before and actually spoke with a mate about it earlier. I saw Whitsnake a good while ago and was about 10 ft away from Coverdale. The gig was brilliant & everyone was praising him for his "amazing" vocals. (Even on playback the gig sounded great)

The reason why everyone was happy wasn't because Coverdale sang amazing, (although they thought he had at the time) it was more because he was very clever with how he avoided exposing himself vocally. This is where Jon fails miserably.

First off, Coverdale looks the part (forget hair etc) - he has all the cliched rock star poses, mic spins, crowd pointing etc etc - but visually it works and helps take the emphasis off vocals. He moved, he had energy. Compare this to Jon, who is like a statue up there, grimacing & barley offering any obvious clues of enjoyment.

The other thing Coverdale did impressively was choose his vocal battles well. On harder notes, he'd offer the crowd the mic while the guitarist(s) sang the part - it didn't sound or feel odd because visually you're getting all those rock star moves and audibly you're hearing decent backing vocals as well as crowd participation.

It sounds an obvious thing to do but Jon isn't doing any of these things. (Often enough) He is so exposed up there. It's so hard to watch and listen to. Something needs to give. If he can't vocally improve, then he needs to visually offer something more than being rooted to the spot. If it's not fun to watch, rubbish to listen to....is there much point anymore???


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Since your more of a Coverdale fan than Bon Jovi fan, then stick with Coverdale if you think Jon is that horrible, I don't think Jon gives a you know what to what your opinion, he doesn't have to answer to you, so move on to Coverdale and leave him be.

Captain_jovi 08-23-2017 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1227064)
Since your more of a Coverdale fan than Bon Jovi fan, then stick with Coverdale if you think Jon is that horrible, I don't think Jon gives a you know what to what your opinion, he doesn't have to answer to you, so move on to Coverdale and leave him be.

Jon's not going to read this is and everyone is free to their opinion.

Walleris 08-23-2017 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1227064)
Since your more of a Coverdale fan than Bon Jovi fan, then stick with Coverdale if you think Jon is that horrible, I don't think Jon gives a you know what to what your opinion, he doesn't have to answer to you, so move on to Coverdale and leave him be.

We missed you girl, please don't leave us ever again :B-fly:

Rdkopper 08-23-2017 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1227056)
In 88-90 & 93-96 he was THE best no doubting that.

You can just say 88-96 he was the best

Thomas S 08-23-2017 08:23 AM

Apologies if this video has already posted, I just stumbled across it and thought the sound was much better.


I don't know what it is, but from this video the performance for IBTFY sounds great to me. I'd happily pay money to see this live.

EDIT: Jon really works to get the crowd participating at the end. I think this performance was pretty great.

Jeeper 08-23-2017 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa3 (Post 1227064)
Since your more of a Coverdale fan than Bon Jovi fan, then stick with Coverdale if you think Jon is that horrible, I don't think Jon gives a you know what to what your opinion, he doesn't have to answer to you, so move on to Coverdale and leave him be.



Thanks. I'll consider your advice.


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steel_horse75 08-23-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1227068)
You can just say 88-96 he was the best



Axl and Seb ruled the world from 91 to 92

liljovi93 08-23-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1227069)
Apologies if this video has already posted, I just stumbled across it and thought the sound was much better.


I don't know what it is, but from this video the performance for IBTFY sounds great to me. I'd happily pay money to see this live.

EDIT: Jon really works to get the crowd participating at the end. I think this performance was pretty great.

Did Jon give Phil a couple of stink eyes? One for getting lyrics wrong and then for starting outro a bit late?

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Thinny 08-23-2017 12:20 PM

I wish they would give Dave Richie's parts to sing. He'd do a much better job than Phil I think...

Javier 08-23-2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1227073)
I wish they would give Dave Richie's parts to sing. He'd do a much better job than Phil I think...

I agree.
Dave did them whenever Richie sang it and did an awesome job!


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