Well, that stadium max capacity for concerts is 49.500. Everything was sold out from months but the GA that still had a "few tickets". But no source says the attendance.

The infield was a standing area?
I'm just curious because I had remembered that shows in Buenos Aires had to be seated due to the statics of the buildings around. Wasn't this an issue a few years ago? Or I might have mixed that up with another city...

A very good review
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/2063785-b...ctivo-en-velez

Here we go... Another ****ing list of all the elite rock stars who still sing amazing and move on stage... How about we do it right and put together a list of one's who can't and then compare where Jon falls...

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I think that was in 2010 when they played at River Plate Stadium
Maybe ezearis can confirm that

If you want too sure..he'd be pretty freaking low....hell, 55 is relatively young

WTF is that???

Jon Bon Jovi, the kick-ass rock 'n' roll frontman, is still there! His voice is still shot which is a shame of course, but if he'll someday be able to maintain this kind of energy throughout more than one song per show, I couldn't care less. I just want this Jon back all the way.

Let's sack the debate going on between rdkopper and Thinny and focus on the show!

It looked like a brilliant atmosphere! From what I've seen, Jon is still off a lot on the vocals but seemed more confident. I seen him move from the mic in Raise Your Hands and Born To Be My Baby which is a start. It wasn't much but it's a start. Obviously he moved around on Bad Medicine a lot too...

Things can get better. Jon needs to move around some more because I feel like he sounds better when he is. As soon as he is back at the mic he is hanging onto it and it's not sounding as good.

The band sound excellent! If Jon can get sorted, we could have a good European tour next year.

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I agree and I gotta say that the Wanted performance was vocally probably the best one since mid/late 2013.

Wanted was indeed very decent. RYH is also better than earlier this year.

But then again he started the NA leg better than he finished it, so I don't expect it to be much better long term, it's just Jon being rested and giving his 120%, which is not sustainable.

The good thing is that after shows like that have shown a significant improvement, that's got to boost Jon's confidence...but yeah, I guess we'll see what happens next...

So, a friend told me that after the gig they talked to Matt and he told them that Jon wanted to play another song for us because of the crowd but that he couldn't because of his voice.

Yes, back in 2010 there was a judiciary issue because the neighbors of Belgrano said that the vibrations from the River Plate stadium damaged the buildings. That got sorted out by 2011. In 2013 and 2017 the concerts were in Vélez.

I feel like these two S.America shows are definitely a step up from the first N.America shows. A lot of debate is still going on about Jon's voice and I've learned to agree with the fact that it's simply shot (his mental well-being most likely also adding to it). I'd also like to just throw in my two cents about his lack of mobility. In my opinion it might just simply be about lacking the energy. He is 55, he's aged really gracefully but maybe these past three years just hit him physically to the point to which he doesn't anymore want to jump about and stuff. Jon looks pretty exhausted at the end of shows these days. If he'd give as much energy as he had in 2011 or what not he would last about 10-15 songs as singing also absorbs a lot of energy.
Just wanted to give me two cents about this whole thing. I'm really hoping that they can do an European tour, which will happen unless something goes wrong with this tour at the moment. I'd still be happy to see them just to see them play some of the songs that mean so much to me.

Personally, I don't think it's a physical issue, Jon has always kept himself physically fit and I'm sure that he still does. I think the reasons that he seems so drained by the end of the show is because he's having to put so much effort into his singing, which is also why he doesn't move around much, and by the end of the show it's taken so much out of him. But I don't get why he does that, as he seems to sound better when he is relaxed and moving around more...it's very bizarre to me....

Personally i think this was pretty decent - other than phils cock up!

Glad everyone who went had a great time. From what I can tell, I'm not sure there is any appreciable difference between the performance in the last two shows and the North American tour. The band sounds great and Jon struggles at times. Just a big difference in the crowds in South America.


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This is true. When he gets loose is when he sings better. Really weird.

It just goes to show you how much pain or the precautions Jon needs to take to preserve what's left of his voice... The fact that he could not do another song speaks volumes...

Confidence plays a small part in it but the issue is much bigger... This guy is in pain... This explains the long breaks between legs and even between gigs... Like I said prior, if he wants to stretch the tour out over two years, so be it... I don't think it will delay any new material for a new album...

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Better than I expected. I remember hearing These Days at Hyde Park in 2003 and be struggled big time back then. I think his vocals have always been up and down.

People quoting the bad medecine video as if it's unbelievably rock n roll?

The transition between captain crash and bad medicine was so boring and awkward.

mumbling through "are you still with me out there?" and "is there a doctor in the house" is almost pathetic to watch.

Now, don't get me wrong - the crowd seemed so into it. But I've been in atmosphere's where it's the crowd, not the band, that sets the temperature and dynamic of the room. Put 40k people who all love the same thing into a stadium and then on top of that, make them crazy South Americans - of course the energy would be electric and I would have loved to have been there. But man, that was downright awful - Jon just has lost it.

A friend told a friend that Jon couldn't sing another song...

THIS.
Evem though his vocals are considerably better than earlier this year, they still are very bad. He's shouting most of the notes. And this Bad Medicine performance is nothing out of the box really ...

Don't get me wrong, I do believe that people went crazy yesterday at the show, but to me this is a major case of the crowd stealing the show, not Jon.
6zzbsdbm

I really hope Rollercoaster gets put into the set. preferably in place of Crash. And moved to another place in the set. Maybe after LH or before god Bless this mess. dunno, but it would be nice to have Lay your Hands, HAND and Bad Medicine closing out the main set....

People weren't quoting that!!!! all they were doing is providing an example to prove Jon wasn't glued to the mic... Along with other performances...

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The backup vocals on We Don't Run (the who-oahs at the beginning, and in the chorus) certainly sound much better than before. Maybe due to David and Phil's mics being made louder?

Well, in regards to Bed of Roses, I was expecting worse... so I guess that's a good thing.

I wasn't, as Jon seems to be consistently hitting all the notes on Bed Of Roses (a very demanding song with lots of sustained high notes - difficult in the same way as Always), but murdering These Days (while the notes Jon goes for nowadays aren't any higher than the ones of BOR) and Keep The Faith (not any rangier than BOR and TD) instead. It's also strange how Jon always hits the "I ain't gonna LIVE forever" part (the same note as the "on a BED of nails" on BOR) on It's My Life, but then falls embarrassingly flat on the "like Frankie said I DID it my way" line. How is that possible?

Jon's also doing the "tonight I sleep" in Spanish right, something that he rarely did since he turned nasal when it's being sung on English.

And another note, he completely did away with the last notes of TD.

well... not true:

This YT user has the whole show with decent audio to judge Jon's performance (meaning the audience screams are not drowning his voice)

This House Is Not for Sale Raise Your Hands Knockout YGLABN & BTBMB LH Follow & Sleep & Runaway We Don't Run Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (Acoustic) Bed of Roses It's My Life Who Says You Can't Go Home God Bless This Mess Wanted Dead or Alive Lay Your Hands on Me Have a Nice Day Cap Cras & Bad Medicine In These Arms I'll Be There for You Livin' on a Prayer These Days Keep the Faith

So Jon can move and sing, go figure. It's his damn job.

I'm trying to be fair here, I'm all for Jon shaking his ass the whole show instead of gripping the mic butchering the songs. Even if he sounds even worse. A stadium tour is not going to work if he's as static as he was during the first leg. And the band *needs* to do stadiums, the difference is night and day...

This post was written in response to several who said that Jon was glued to the mic to prove that it wasnt right at all
Sometimes is good to read the whole topic and no try to be too clever.....

I don't care why it was written or in response to what. I'm just saying that people really were impressed by that Bad Medicine (which was the whole point). If someone says: "OMG Jon goes down to the crowd!!!!!. It's Amazing, The bands energy is amazing, Jon runs the crowd like very few others", I assume that they are impressed by the performance. I don't care if they didn't say exactly "unbelievably rock n roll". People thought it was amazing, not only an example of Jon moving from his mic-stand.

I'm not trying to be clever. I DID read the whole topic and that's why I wanted to answer, because I know what Panda was referring to.

So you know better than me what I was trying to mean because you knew what Panda was referring to
Good for you
Finally I repeat it to you because it seems you didnt understand it,the discussion was if Jon was or not glued to the mic not that if this was the best Bad Medicine ever or not....

OK, that was the discussion, I get it.
Were you impress by that Bad Medicine or not? Just because you were talking about something else that doesn't mean I am talking about the same.
Panda said people was quoting that bad medicine video like it was something amazing. Didn't you quote that performance saying that it was?

Well looky here, Jon moved during Bad Medicine, etc. amazing. Shame about 75% of the rest of the show.....

If people think this is a high energy performance, I really feel sorry for them...

For me Bad Medicine was amazing.
Are you happy?

I was trying to say that I knew what Panda was talking about. I didn't mean to bother you.
No te enfades, hombre -.-

Ok,understood
No me enfado joder ��

KTF sounds great.
Always love the extended live version