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symbeline 09-24-2017 01:33 PM

Video roundup so far with the best quality I could find:

This House Is Not for Sale: https://youtu.be/eOZqnwiTsqU
You Give Love a Bad Name: https://youtu.be/cGkJMP2wFXc
Lost Highway: https://youtu.be/L_-7gNtpC-I
Follow: https://youtu.be/f2CRDMdTJb8
Lay Your Hands On Me: https://youtu.be/fzrFf5FDD0Y
In These Arms: https://youtu.be/N5tLR0tNFGE
Memory: https://youtu.be/NmUBGBvfeo4
Bed of Roses: https://youtu.be/hIEb5G_3g6g
It's My Life: https://youtu.be/73R7swrMxAM
Someday I'll Be Saturday Night: https://youtu.be/BIl-Kl85Q5w
Wanted Dead or Alive: https://youtu.be/YkzFvG_uS2Y (incomplete)
Keep the Faith: https://youtu.be/o9DiXO-BBkg (incomplete, shitty video)

Encore:
Always: https://youtu.be/awYxDJAAT4M
Livin' on a Prayer: https://youtu.be/Db-Ka3aYjFc
These Days: https://youtu.be/vB4S3BLfPQw

Jonty 09-24-2017 01:54 PM

The last two shows with the videos...wow. Hope they now travel to Europe again but without a cold or hay fever. Couple of more new songs and that set is perfect. Jon looks like he is loving performing again and I tell you what, I'm a massive Richie fan too but I'm not missing him. Phil X absolutely rocks, fresh playing and still looks like he just loves the fact he is up there. Jon clearly loves him too with all the interaction. Jons voice is pretty decent, a lot of the famous stars voices are just as shot and are auto tuned even more, hopefully Europe is a sensible schedule with fantastic shows!

And what was going on with the girl in BOR? Must have known her, very physical!

Captmorgs 09-24-2017 02:19 PM

September 23rd 2017, Sao Paulo, Brazil
 
Symbeline, thanks for the video links. Wow. He's singing not whispering through the verses. Up until the last couple shows (and except for Bed of Roses), I didn't think he was THAT much better than the NA leg. But he flipped some kind of switch last night. Markedly better. That was awesome.


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Walleris 09-24-2017 02:24 PM

I guess Jon's vocals are a lot more important to me than to most of you. And they're still shit. So ultimately, I don't find these videos very satisfying. That Always version wasn't any better than LA forum.

But I'm glad that Jon does seem more "into it" and these past couple of shows are better received here.

liljovi93 09-24-2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1228636)
I guess Jon's vocals are a lot more important to me than to most of you. And they're still shit. So ultimately, I don't find these videos very satisfying. That Always version wasn't any better than LA forum.

But I'm glad that Jon does seem more "into it" and these past couple of shows are better received here.

Always wasn't mind-blowing by any means but it was definitely better than the first leg performances. Surely you think BOR was great?

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BJFan99 09-24-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1228634)
Jon's voice is pretty decent, a lot of the famous stars voices are just as shot and are auto tuned even more.

A lot of famous stars sing much worse than Jon - for example, Paul Stanley on his best day still makes Jon on his worst day sound like Pavarotti. Just compare:

https://youtu.be/aSUPM1Pf1hs (Paul probably at his '17 best).

https://youtu.be/IUDDo99vb6U (Jon probably at his '17 worst - and yes, he's definitely sounding better than Stanley).

Also, Jon's vocals aren't auto-tuned/playback at all, except for the high note on Prayer.

Cap Crash 09-24-2017 02:36 PM

Walleris is right. If his perfoming like this on every show like everyone wishes here, then the voice will become more shittier than ever. This one and the RIR are both good, but if Jon is gonna keep doing this, it might be 2015 again. Let's just hope he'll play it safe on the next shows. As much as I've enjoyed the band during this leg, we should not forgot the man's limits.

Thomas S 09-24-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap Crash (Post 1228639)
Walleris is right. If his perfoming like this on every show like everyone wishes here, then the voice will become more shittier than ever. This one and the RIR are both good, but if Jon is gonna keep doing this, it might be 2015 again. Let's just hope he'll play it safe on the next shows. As much as I've enjoyed the band during this leg, we should not forgot the man's limits.

I mean... this is the end of the leg. He's not going to be doing any serious singing until next year's leg so that shouldn't be an issue. Regardless, Jon should be putting 100% into every show, and he should most definitely not 'play it safe'.

DryCounty 09-24-2017 02:52 PM

Haha, what the **** is happening? For brief moments it felt like watching a clip from 2011. It's so obvious that Jon's vocal problems is a confidence problem. The way he worked the stage on Bad Name and Prayer, I haven't seen that in so many years. And his vocls? What is happening? It's a little rough at some times, but at some moments I really got some serious shivers. BOR and man, even These Days sounded great. Prayer that he usually has a hard time to manage sounded decent.

Also, there's a lot of talk about Jon. But what a band this is. I love Richie to death, but Bon Jovi 2.0 is starting to both look and sound like a great, great band. If this is what the future holds, bring it on!
What a great way to start the day

bwehehehe 09-24-2017 03:04 PM

To be honest, every performance of Always in this tour so far has been pretty cringeworthy, and those of BOR that aren't in Spanish. But the fact that he did not shorten the high notes on that song in Sao Paulo, just wow. And as for Always, he handled the first chorus and the bridge much better, but the rest of the song remained a butcherfest.

I also have to hand it down to Jon for TD. Sure, the choruses leave a lot to be desired, but he's pretty much in control of the verses, and unlike Argentina where he did away with the last few lines, he went for "AIN'T NOBODY LEFT BUT US THESE DAYS." And got away with it.


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