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Why did Bobby B. leave btw? I know he was a touring member so there was no need for an explanation, but it seems odd there's been no mention since 2015 Edit to change a date, my memory is shit lol |
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http://i.imgur.com/uZ2Yc0Q.gif :mrgreen: I didn't edit my post again due to laziness, but I've found they did a gig together in March'16 (Gaynor Gala 2016 at the American Museum of Natural History in NYC), you can easily google the pictures. And I think that Bobby B. is still using BJ songs in his charity gigs. I find super strange that they'll part ways like this. I can't imagine a reason, now I'm curious... Edit to add: that '16 gig was after the infamous interview where he "dished some scoop" on the band, which was what first came to mind as a reason why they would stop having Bobby B. around |
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I feel the fact that he's the producer of like 40% and co-writer of 30% of the band's catalogue is not being brought enough (random numbers, but not too far off). And while I agree that this is not their peak work, but it's damn significant. And music, when possible, should always be performed by the people who make it, rather than hired guns. That's why my ideal lineup would have Richie and Shanks. It'd be one thing if Shanks was a bad guitar player, but he's definitely not. |
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Will they reunite for a one-off performance (charity, HoF induction…)? Sure, there’ll always be love and respect between them, if only for the years they spent together and the great legacy they created. But Jon and Richie as writing partners, sharing “moments” on a show? No, no way, that relationship is damaged beyond repair. When it happened, I had the strong gut feeling that there was no going back, due to the scarce but not really subtle hints at that time and due to many many other things along the way. And the way things have turned out and recent less than subtle hints… pretty clear the chances of having Richie back are zero. And it would hurt them more than help them, in all honesty. Both sides. I know there’s nothing special or earth-shattering about a band breaking up/losing a key member. It happens all the time. But after so many years and such a painstakingly maintained tight-bond image, they wouldn’t even know where to begin in order to mend it |
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It's cheesy, but it's true. We wouldn't be here if we didn't. And we only want to see him enjoying what he's doing up there, not struggling like in the gigs early this year. Also on that note... HEY, JON! * waves * VOCÊ É GATO!! |
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It's not a band that keeps breaking up and coming back together all the time (well, I can only think of the fight after NJ tour) and band members leaving and also coming back later, it was always that tight group... that family, as they always described themselves. That family's broken, they're trying to rebuild that but, damn... it's hard when you lose a member of the family, isn't it? I really don't see some "Axl and Slash" thing happening to them, really don't. Also, please pleeeease don't "they were mere bandmantes" me... please, don't. Even if the band doesn't spend time together when not on tour, doesn't mean they're just guys that work in a band together. Anyway, I don't see it happening. Wish I was wrong... guess we all want it to happen, don't we? Deep inside, we all want to see our Happy Family™ back together. But we can only hope, let's move on for now and see what these guys still have for us :) Well, it's what we've been doing for 4 years :rolleyes: |
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He is on fire here. Where have you been all this time Jon? I'm glad to see you back.
https://youtu.be/BIl-Kl85Q5w?t=214 Can someone transcribe what Jon says from the minute 3:35 - 5:10 please? And still launch the soundboard shows on this tour? |
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Holy shit. I was traveling and didn't see anything of these Brazil shows but this setlist has to be the best of the whole tour and that Someday I'll Be Saturday Night it just amazing. This is the Bon Jovi I love.
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if bobby reacted like this then it was time to go... i think in a way bobby initiates some bad things for the band even if he isnt responsible...undermining richies position, making him feel less important after 20 years of career. with these touring musicians the sound was fuller, especially the vocals but it started not tobe a gang in a way, when you are 3-4-5 you have to stick together...i m sure jon dave and tico are closer than ever these last years..his style of guitar playing wasnt my cup of tea, and started playing 2-3 solos every show...songs he hadnt wrote and couldnt do justice live. anyway i dont really like shanks but he is an improvement as a stage figure, guitar player.
the new guy jon plays seems like perfectly capable. bobby is a good musician but butchered bjs music most of the time. in fact it surprises me how nicely he played in destination anywhere and how uninspired his rest guitar work with bj was. |
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Good for Bobby anyway... what an asshole and tactless comment, given the circumstances. Or maybe it was said in jest (trying to make sense of their later appearances together!) but even if that's the case... you go Bobby! Jon can be a such a pain in the ass. He's probably missing the paycheck though ha ha |
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But: 1. If you compare how bad the start of the LH tour was (Jon's voice was weak and his performances were very criticized, here and in other boards) and how it turned out to be after many many shows, in fact after 2 whole legs if I remember correctly AND 2. An aging voice is going to decline faster and faster with each passing year, no matter what I understand the hopes of many and the leniency, if you may. While I don't believe that this will become the LH tour part 2 (mainly because Jon has been trying to improve since 2015! and I don't see how this can improve any further), it seems that Jon is confident with this voice. And with his confidence back, there's a bigger chance of an European stadium tour next summer at the same level it's always been. Edit because it's not clear at all: this was a reply to other posts, not to GabrielC, his post reminded me that I was going to comment on this |
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It's been a long time since we've been down in South America With what was going on, right? (not sure about this one) [I]We ?? here, gone through some tough times Tico was sick, Richie was missing in action But we came down here, we took the stage every night With the ????, some sweat and your love And it pulled me through. Four years later, the stars are shining, 'cause I hear, I hear angels singing[I] (or "the angels sing") And I hear the thunder behind'em And I hear your hearts, they call me [breaks into the song again] |
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With what was going on, right? We were down here, gone through some tough times Tico was sick, Richie was missing in action But we came down here, we took the stage every night With a song, some sweat and your love And it pulled me through. Four years later, the stars are shining, 'cause I hear, I hear angels singing And I hear the thunder behind'em And I hear your hearts, they call me |
Catching up with some of the videos, that Bed Of Roses was superb, and These Days is pretty damn decent as well. Whatever has happened, be it confidence or feeding off the crowds enthusiasm, Jon is now in an acceptable place vocals wise and is finally let loose from the mic stand. It's great to see.
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A lot's gone on, right? We were down here, going through some tough times Tico was sick, Richie was missing in action But we came down here, we took the stage every night With a song, some sweat and your love And it pulled me through Four years later, the stars shine again, 'cause I hear it, I hear angels singing And I hear thunder behind me (?) And I hear you hearts, they're calling (?) |
Thanks symbeline, jovifan93, Gadden. A poignant speech.
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Jon works hard, that's fine, but he does not seem to give a moment of peace to his band. It is always in the writing and recording of something, and in turn a programming of a world tour. He always needs someone's company to write or compose, I think Bobby got tired just like Riche, since he absorbed all his time.
Jon said to Richie so he moving into the house and jon had a Richie room at his mansion All said the guy was overworked. Its to much to be the key writing foundation to a big machine and arena rock. What about his life? Lack of empathy from JBJ in regards to Sambora's feelings about the situation drove the wedge deeper. That is one of the keys to understanding this whole story. That's why John Shanks is there, but I predict that Shanks will also fall if the pace of work and constant tours remain the same. |
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Jon is definitely guilty of overworking the band (and himself) in the past, but that's not the case anymore at all. Most other artists/bands have much tighter schedules than Bon Jovi of today. |
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Nor is it that he has considered taking the things like other bands, who make a break of 4 or 5 years before launching and rolling again. I'm just saying that if in 2019 we have a new album-tour, Jon seems not to learn from his mistakes, and any other band member could be the next unhappy. But this is just one more opinion. Whatever happens, it will be interesting what happens, I'm very curious if the next album, Shanks will be in it, if Phil X will record with them from the beginning or will only be called for some touch-ups at the last minute. And above all I want to know if there will be a drastic change in their sound, since Shanks has been touring with them in the shows, and maybe he have some ideas on how to transfer the guitar sound from the shows in a recording of a new album, because now, he is the guitar player. |
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Where? Link please?!
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This YT user has compiled all the available videos
Nothing new so far, people are uploading Wanted, Prayer, BOR and Always mainly |
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