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Adam D 02-25-2018 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1234890)
“Those days and nights would last forever”


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That works much better.

Thanks.

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JackieBlue 02-25-2018 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1234885)
He misses the camaraderie Richie and he used to have, both as performers and as songwriters. And he's put it into honest words.


From Taking a Chance on the Wind:
"If time's taught me a lesson,
It's 'don't dwell on the past,
'Cause the bad things fade,
And the good things, the good things are built to last."


From LWTG:
"I ain't living with the ghost,
No future living in the past.
I've seen what hate has done to hope;
Tomorrow wasn't built to last..."

WWWU:

"...Don't go looking for tomorrow,
Leaving yesterday behind.
Writing every page together,
Those days were not to last forever..."

"Memories are nothing more than ghosts that we let in,
Don't be afraid of them.
Do you remember when...
Writing every page together,
Those days were not to last forever..."

Adam D 02-25-2018 06:45 AM

Yes, after re-watching the Colbert performance, it's definitely "those days and nights would last forever."



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Thomas S 02-25-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam D (Post 1234893)
Yes, after re-watching the Colbert performance, it's definitely "those days and nights would last forever."



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Nope, I'm 99% certain that it's "those days were not to last forever". It's crystal clear to me in the studio version and the iHeart radio show version.

Adam D 02-25-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1234895)
Nope, I'm 99% certain that it's "those days were not to last forever". It's crystal clear to me in the studio version and the iHeart radio show version.

Maybe it's just me, but having "not" in there just makes the line seem awkward.

I had made a mistake in a previous post, typing off instead of not.

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Thomas S 02-25-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam D (Post 1234896)
Maybe it's just me, but having "not" in there just makes the line seem awkward.

I had made a mistake in a previous post, typing off instead of not.

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Sounds fine to me. "Those days were not to last forever" seems to follow the theme of song, which is remembering the good old days with Richie.

"Those days and nights would last forever" doesn't seem to add up IMO, as we all well know that those days and nights ended in 2013.

kleman 02-25-2018 10:55 AM

Really like Walls. great tune, hope they will play it live....

bonjovi90 02-25-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam D (Post 1234893)
Yes, after re-watching the Colbert performance, it's definitely "those days and nights would last forever."



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Just watched it and he sang "those days were not to last forever" twice in there.

rolo_tomachi 02-25-2018 11:52 AM

Anyone who has seen the WWWU video can you tell me if Richie and Alec are in the video?

Bounce7800 02-25-2018 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1234900)
Just watched it and he sang "those days were not to last forever" twice in there.

Studio version sounds like Those Days when nights would last forever to me..

JackieBlue 02-25-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam D (Post 1234896)
Maybe it's just me, but having "not" in there just makes the line seem awkward...



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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1234897)
Sounds fine to me. "Those days were not to last forever" seems to follow the theme of song, which is remembering the good old days with Richie.

"Those days and nights would last forever" doesn't seem to add up IMO, as we all well know that those days and nights ended in 2013.


I personally think it might have made more sense if he had sung "Writing every page together, we thought those days would last forever... when we were us" after the first verse because that verse clearly refers to the way they did things in the early days and cautions against turning your back on all of it or "looking for tomorrow, leaving yesterday behind." Then he could have changed it to "Writing every page together, those days were not to last forever..." after the 2nd verse, which acknowledges that while sometimes things change (i.e., the way they used to work almost exclusively as a team), some things will never change (i.e., those things at the heart of their relationship).

But he didn't ask me. :)

Xavi 02-25-2018 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1234901)
Anyone who has seen the WWWU video can you tell me if Richie and Alec are in the video?

Richie in some parts from the MSG 08 DVD
No Alec.

You can watch the video in facebook
Check it on "Jovi letras"

rolo_tomachi 02-25-2018 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1234907)
Richie in some parts from the MSG 08 DVD
No Alec.

You can watch the video in facebook
Check it on "Jovi letras"

Thanks!. A pity that Alec is not in the video.

Adam D 02-25-2018 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1234905)
Studio version sounds like Those Days when nights would last forever to me..

That would also work.

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rolo_tomachi 02-25-2018 03:47 PM

WWWU Video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jiZ...nZksyM7Cj/view

DavetheGodofKeys 02-25-2018 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1234907)
Richie in some parts from the MSG 08 DVD
No Alec.

You can watch the video in facebook
Check it on "Jovi letras"

I like the part where David and Hugh share a drink. I'm surprised it wasn't Jon's wine though. :D

jovifan93 02-25-2018 04:41 PM

Thanks for the video. It's definitely "Those days were not to last forever". Strange title anyway, though. It's like admitting that they are not them anymore. Or it could be meant that "we" = "the two of us" were "us" = "togehter" (i.e. Jon an Richie). Strange nevertheless...

JackieBlue 02-25-2018 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1234911)

Thanks, Rolo!

Interesting that the only clear face in the shots from when they "were us" is Jon's. The shots of everyone else is like who they are now.

PAGING BONJOVI90!!!! (Or anyone else who knows!) The shot of Jon in the rain, during the bridge: is that the show in Europe when Jon said something cute and the lighting flashed, right on cue? Can't remember any more detail than that.

(And I'm sure THAT doesn't surprise you!) :D

bonjovi90 02-25-2018 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1234914)
Thanks, Rolo!

Interesting that the only clear face in the shots from when they "were us" is Jon's. The shots of everyone else is like who they are now.

PAGING BONJOVI90!!!! (Or anyone else who knows!) The shot of Jon in the rain, during the bridge: is that the show in Europe when Jon said something cute and the lighting flashed, right on cue? Can't remember any more detail than that.

(And I'm sure THAT doesn't surprise you!) :D

Probably Sydney 2010, night 3:

The one where Jon sang and the lightning hit on cue was in Munich in 2001 during Something To Believe In ;)

bonjovi90 02-25-2018 05:50 PM

http://www34.zippyshare.com/v/bSUZ4WP3/file.html

Isolated the vocals, he's singing "those days were not to last forever". However, it can be mistaken for the above mentioned since the compressor seems to make the two t letters sound like an "s".

jovifan93 02-25-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1234918)
http://www34.zippyshare.com/v/bSUZ4WP3/file.html

Isolated the vocals, he's singing "those days and nights were not to last forever". However, it can be mistaken for the above mentioned since the compressor seems to make the two t letters sound like an "s".

Now you got it confused. You meant "Those days were not to last forever", right? ;-)

bonjovi90 02-25-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1234922)
Now you got it confused. You meant "Those days were not to last forever", right? ;-)

Yeah, I mixed it up. I meant "Those days were not to last forever" :D

rolo_tomachi 02-25-2018 09:15 PM

We are sure that they have recorded a video of Walls? Do we have any confirmation? some pic?

Jeeper 02-25-2018 10:01 PM

New Music on the way!
 
Replace Knockout with Walls, Reunion with WWWU & Come On Up To Our House with I Will Drive You Home and it’s a strong post 2000 Jovi album. Add Richie’s harmonies on several songs, notably Scars, and it levels up a notch again. Wishful thinking but maybe there’s life in the old dog yet. At least, studio wise...


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rolo_tomachi 02-25-2018 10:17 PM

My perfect album would be a mix of songs from BB and THINFS, adding these two new songs, it would be a strong album. I think this time the amount of bonus songs have helped to save a solid tracklist.

The next album will have the difficult task of being equal or better. I hope Jon continues to be generous with bonus tracks despite not releasing Rage of Angels. :p

Lucky0003 02-25-2018 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1234916)
Probably Sydney 2010, night 3:




The one where Jon sang and the lightning hit on cue was in Munich in 2001 during Something To Believe In ;)



Is this on You Tube? I searched but didn’t find a 2001 performance in the rain.


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bonjovi90 02-25-2018 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky0003 (Post 1234931)
Is this on You Tube? I searched but didn’t find a 2001 performance in the rain.


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It was filmed, but only from the right side. So you only saw him looking up to the sky with a big grin once the rain started during Something To Believe In, but not the lightning behind the stage.
Doesn't seem to be on Youtube though.

symbeline 02-25-2018 11:28 PM

Is that all that Tidal money can buy? The video was a whole lot of nothing, and that's coming from someone who loves this kind of videos *shrug*

For a video celebrating the original band and how good things will last forever, there was 0 Alec and a couple of shots of Richie's head. Maybe there were more and I was blinded by Jon's teeth though :mrgreen:

What I liked is the hilariously shoehorned product placement. What's next, a special appearance by a rapper instead of a guitar solo?

symbeline 02-25-2018 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1234916)
The one where Jon sang and the lightning hit on cue was in Munich in 2001 during Something To Believe In ;)

Didn't that happen in Ireland too?

symbeline 02-25-2018 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1234932)
It was filmed, but only from the right side. So you only saw him looking up to the sky with a big grin once the rain started during Something To Believe In, but not the lightning behind the stage.
Doesn't seem to be on Youtube though.

Does that mean that they are hoarding all those pro-shots for... reasons? I thought there were no Alec shots because they wouldn't have access to pro-shots from that era so they went with the officially released DVDs.

They could have included older shows but God forbid Jon had to be reminded of the past when things were better

steel_horse75 02-26-2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1234937)
Is that all that Tidal money can buy? The video was a whole lot of nothing, and that's coming from someone who loves this kind of videos *shrug*

For a video celebrating the original band and how good things will last forever, there was 0 Alec and a couple of shots of Richie's head. Maybe there were more and I was blinded by Jon's teeth though :mrgreen:

What I liked is the hilariously shoehorned product placement. What's next, a special appearance by a rapper instead of a guitar solo?



After watching the vid I have a sudden urge to buy a Range Rover and drinks whisky

bonjovi90 02-26-2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1234942)
Does that mean that they are hoarding all those pro-shots for... reasons? I thought there were no Alec shots because they wouldn't have access to pro-shots from that era so they went with the officially released DVDs.

They could have included older shows but God forbid Jon had to be reminded of the past when things were better

I was talking about an audience video of the show (there actually are 2, but both incomplete).
They have all shows from 1993 onwards recorded, at least the footage that was shown on the screens. That's what Obie said some time ago. Furthermore, selected shows in the 80's (like Giants etc) were stored as well.
And if they wanted footage of Alec, they still could've gone to the Access All Areas video.

Lucky0003 02-26-2018 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1234932)
It was filmed, but only from the right side. So you only saw him looking up to the sky with a big grin once the rain started during Something To Believe In, but not the lightning behind the stage.

Doesn't seem to be on Youtube though.



Thanks! Would be great to see it though!


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JackieBlue 02-26-2018 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1234942)
...They could have included older shows but God forbid Jon had to be reminded of the past when things were better

Or reminded that, at one time, there actually was an "us"?

I gotta say that for a group who has tried so hard to sell the idea that they're a "band" again, they totally missed a golden opportunity to demonstrate it.

Earlier today, a friend and I were talking about the video and she was saying how it's Jon, Jon, Jon; and I disagreed. I told her that, except for the shots from earlier days, I thought the band was more prominent in this one than they had been in any of the others, and said that at least the interactions didn't seem as forced as they did in the video for THINFS. But after our discussion I watched it again, intentionally looking for the shots of Jon with the rest of the band; and I was disappointed to realize that, unless I missed it, there are none. Zero. Zip. Nada. Not even with forced smiles. The closest it gets is that weird phone Skype thing with Phil-X, and even then they weren't in the same frame at the same time. There are lots of shots of the band, interacting with each other, both on stage and off; but none of Jon interacting with anyone.

What struck me even more than that, though, is that in the present-day shots of Jon singing, the band is blurred to an unidentifiable abstract. It literally could be any group of people backing him up. I don't know what they were going for with that; but I'm not sure that there could be a clearer visual statement that it really is Jon and his hired guns now, regardless of how they're promoting it in the press. Whether that's the truth of the matter or not, it sure is the way it comes across in this video, which is sad, given the content of the song.

steel_horse75 02-26-2018 12:45 PM

I think the video is garbage.

Wouldbe been better if the video was full of footage from all their career.
Its a song about the glory years but with recent footage?

utter crap

steel_horse75 02-26-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1234942)

They could have included older shows but God forbid Jon had to be reminded of the past when things were better


Totally agree with this.

CLEYoungGun21 02-26-2018 03:56 PM

I think we should create a proper video for WWWU... the video the band put out sadly, doesn’t commemorate the best years


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bonjovi90 02-26-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky0003 (Post 1234950)
Thanks! Would be great to see it though!


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bonjovi90 02-26-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CLEYoungGun21 (Post 1234972)
I think we should create a proper video for WWWU... the video the band put out sadly, doesn’t commemorate the best years


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Agreed. I like this one much better:

JackieBlue 02-26-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1234975)
Agreed. I like this one much better:
Bon Jovi - When We Were Us - YouTube

Now, THAT'S what I'm talking about!! That's the spirit of the song. Beautimous!! Thank you so much for sharing it.


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