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Cap Crash 12-08-2017 08:36 AM

Expectations for the 2018 Tour
 
I'm pretty sure the two new songs will be pinned to death on the setlist. Blaze, Hey God, and Dry County are one of my favorites but I have a strong feeling that these three will be butchered. Jon might go up on unexpectable heights again like he did on the SA Tour. Saturday Night will be on acoustic as much as possible. Still have a lot of these but I'm not expecting a lot from Jon right now. Still hoping for more improvement though, but other than that there's just nothing left.

Thinny 12-08-2017 02:21 PM

I'm really glad that Jon is feeling more confident vocally and the SA tour did him a world of good...BUT he has to be careful...if he goes out there singing songs like Hey God every night, it could end up being really bad for his voice in the long run. I hope he can pull it off, but I'd rather see him play a safe set and nail it (as much as 2017 Jon can nail it), than bring out stuff that will test his vocals too much and possibly give us more cringe worthy performances...

Bounce7800 12-08-2017 03:10 PM

In more hope than expectation, I'd like as many THINFS songs in rotation as possible. I'd love to hear Born Again Tomorrow live again, it's criminally underplayed.

As ever, ditch the usual filler suspects and chuck a few other album/less played tracks in there like Wild Is The Wind, TAALS, Misunderstood etc... Anything at the level of the SA shows would be good enough at this stage.

DavetheGodofKeys 12-08-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap Crash (Post 1231251)
I'm pretty sure the two new songs will be pinned to death on the setlist. Blaze, Hey God, and Dry County are one of my favorites but I have a strong feeling that these three will be butchered. Jon might go up on unexpectable heights again like he did on the SA Tour. Saturday Night will be on acoustic as much as possible. Still have a lot of these but I'm not expecting a lot from Jon right now. Still hoping for improvement though, but other than that there's just nothing left.

I hope they play BAT because it's the best song from THINFS and also rarities that won't kill his voice like OWN, I'd die for you and Novocaine.

Becky 12-08-2017 04:17 PM

I expect every show within driving distance of me will be on either a Wednesday or Thursday night and it will be a bitch trying to get to a show because I’ve already used all my sick days at work.

I think we will see more variety in the set lists. I think the band will be really tight and sound amazing. Jon will be out to prove himself and get his confidence back.

BJFan99 12-08-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1231259)
I hope they play BAT because it's the best song from THINFS and also rarities that won't kill his voice like OWN, I'd die for you and Novocaine.

The "yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah..." part at the end of OWN is pretty damn high (at least B4s if not C5s), so it would be a real test for what Jon is capable of nowadays. Then again, he'd probably butcher the whole song...

DavetheGodofKeys 12-08-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1231263)
The "yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah..." part at the end of OWN is pretty damn high (at least B4s if not C5s), so it would be a real test for what Jon is capable of nowadays. Then again, he'd probably butcher the whole song...

Who says Jon has to sing that part of the song? If he decided to sing it he can lower the note so it's comfortable on his voice.

Cap Crash 12-09-2017 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1231262)
I think we will see more variety in the set lists.

Hopefully the bonus tracks from THINFS will show up too. IWDYH have a high chance to be included and is a much softer version of Labor Of Love and Make a Memory combined which makes it very doable. I'm just really curious how the outro will sound live.

Cap Crash 12-09-2017 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1231259)
I hope they play BAT because it's the best song from THINFS and also rarities that won't kill his voice like OWN, I'd die for you and Novocaine.

OWN again is out of reach for him. If they'll play it again, it will be on a very slower tempo so Jon can catch up. I'll be very surprised if they'll play I'd Die For You. But I think it will end up like Captain Crash again. Requires less range but here you see Jon struggling nail a note. Novocaine has zero chance though.

DavetheGodofKeys 12-09-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap Crash (Post 1231292)
OWN again is out of reach for him. If they'll play it again, it will be on a very slower tempo so Jon can catch up. I'll be very surprised if they'll play I'd Die For You. But I think it will end up like Captain Crash again. Requires less range but here you see Jon struggling nail a note. Novocaine has zero chance though.

What about Right Side of the Wrong and Superman Tonight then?

Savvi 12-10-2017 04:32 PM

As Bounce said, these are more hopes than expectations...

I'm so over I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. I'd love to see that gone. I only tolerated it for the cover medleys, but now they're gone so it doesn't really do much for me. It's one of the most over rated Jovi songs IMO.

I'd love Roller Coaster, Living With the Ghost & Born Again Tomorrow to be nightly staples, with all other THINFS songs on rotation (obviously the title track will be staple).

Bed of Roses & Always played a LOT more often - at least one of the two in every set. In These Arms & I'll Be There For You to be more present as well.

We Got It Goin On & We Weren't Born to Follow played much much much less.

:mrgreen:

DryCounty 12-11-2017 02:49 PM

My biggest hope for an upcomin Europe Tour would be for them to start include mort of the post-2000 tracks. Build a big rotate list with tracks like Story of My Life, Everyday, Just Older, Last Man Standing, Thorn In My Side, I'm With You, Bounce etc.
By doing this they could change 10 songs a night and keep it fresh. Probably won't happen. There will be a standard set very much like the Brazil set list and the encore will include Hey God, Dry County, These Day etc. As much as I love those songs and hope they will be played they have been the "rare ones for the fans" for years now. The last time the band really made an effort to make the set list freshwas The Circle Tour with Something For the Pain, Homebound Train and the songs from the first two abums even though they didn't last very long.

rolo_tomachi 12-12-2017 12:01 AM

If Bon Jovi goes to the big stadiums next year, I wonder what the stage will be like. The Buick looked good, but my favorite of the last few years was the giant semicircular screen from The Circle Tour.

Cap Crash 12-14-2017 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Savvi (Post 1231369)

I'm so over I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. I'd love to see that gone. I only tolerated it for the cover medleys, but now they're gone so it doesn't really do much for me. It's one of the most over rated Jovi songs IMO.
less.

:mrgreen:

I think that they've tried doing that this year. The covers sounded great despite of Jon's current vocals. Wish they insert songs like American Pie and Hot Legs(Phil on vocals) if they'll try it again next year.

BJFan99 12-15-2017 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cap Crash (Post 1231636)
I think that they've tried doing that this year. The covers sounded great despite of Jon's current vocals. Wish they insert songs like American Pie and Hot Legs(Phil on vocals) if they'll try it again next year.

I don't think American Pie would work in a full band show. It fits the KOS pretty well with its overall feel, but in a BJ show it would just make the crowd lose their interest. I'd prefer Hallelujah for that "full cover spot", although it was way overplayed in '08-'10.

I agree that Hot Legs would make a great comeback on Bad Medicine, though - but definitely with Jon singing, NOT Phil.

Walleris 12-15-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1231399)
If Bon Jovi goes to the big stadiums next year, I wonder what the stage will be like. The Buick looked good, but my favorite of the last few years was the giant semicircular screen from The Circle Tour.

I wouldn't be surprised if the SA 2017 is the stadium stage moving forward.

The fact that they're no longer doing the "100 shows per year" tours make it a lot more difficult to cover overheads that an expensive stage with cool design brings.

Becky 12-15-2017 02:11 PM

I’m wondering what ticket prices will be. I got a pre-sale email for the Eagles at the same venue Bon Jovi played in Birmingham, and bad seats were $300. Really bad seats were $100. It put a real damper on my looking forward to another tour.

prayer_84 12-15-2017 03:34 PM

The ticket prices will have an added premium compared to previous tours because they are now Hall of Fame Inductees. I know, it sounds beyond ridiculous and really hope I'm wrong. Yet, it wouldn't surprise me if Jon wants to capitalize on the induction. As for the future stage set, I also expect a basic setup without any state-of-the-art elements. While this will undoubtedly reduce overhead costs, it is unlikely to result in lower ticket prices because Jon will want to squeeze as much as possible given the limited number of dates. Besides, the spring tour in support of THINFS was supposed to be stripped in terms of multimedia to make it "all about the music", wasn't it? Yet, as far as I know, ticket weren't cheaper than the last time around, were they? These facts lead me to the conclusion that fancy stage or not, tickets will be overpriced again.

Becky 12-15-2017 04:20 PM

In my experience, yes, tickets were cheaper last time. I don’t know if I just got lucky, but I had great tickets for less than $100 each.

JackieBlue 12-15-2017 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1231681)
I’m wondering what ticket prices will be. I got a pre-sale email for the Eagles at the same venue Bon Jovi played in Birmingham, and bad seats were $300. Really bad seats were $100. It put a real damper on my looking forward to another tour.

I just checked the Apr 11 Eagles show in Charlotte and seats range from $258 (first row upper level) to $2,533 (2nd row, center stage, on the floor). (And that's without Glenn Frey. THEY'RE NUTS!!)

The scary thing is Azoff still manages the Eagles, too. The BJ shows last Spring and Fall may have been a trial run to see how ticket sales went with the new lineup and how well Jon's voice was able to hold up; hence the lower prices. Now that they finished strong in Sao Paulo, they probably have more confidence. So I'd start saving pennies.

Becky 01-10-2018 01:47 AM

Based on the podcast Jon did today, the tour starts in March and will be 30 or 40 shows in the Spring. No more big tours. He could have done stadiums last year and just didn’t want to. A couple of songs will be released. A new record will probably come in about a year.

DavetheGodofKeys 01-10-2018 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1232337)
Based on the podcast Jon did today, the tour starts in March and will be 30 or 40 shows in the Spring. No more big tours. He could have done stadiums last year and just didn’t want to. A couple of songs will be released. A new record will probably come in about a year.

Did he talk about tour dates in Europe?

Becky 01-10-2018 03:02 AM

He did not mention any specific locations for the next tour. He talked openly about how miserable the WAN and Asian tours were. Things are definitely better now.

MellyMel 01-10-2018 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1232337)
Based on the podcast Jon did today, the tour starts in March and will be 30 or 40 shows in the Spring. No more big tours. He could have done stadiums last year and just didn’t want to. A couple of songs will be released. A new record will probably come in about a year.

Thanks, I haven’t listened to the podcast yet, but have been very impatient for dates. I can’t believe the tour starts in 2 months and they still haven’t released them.

Savvi 01-11-2018 03:26 PM

27 dates, including 2 nights at MSG.
  • PEPSI CENTER 03/14/2018 DENVER, CO
  • VIVINT SMART HOME ARENA 03/16/2018 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
  • T-MOBILE ARENA 03/17/2018 LAS VEGAS, NV
  • VERIZON ARENA 03/20/2018 LITTLE ROCK, AR
  • AT&T CENTER 03/22/2018 SAN ANTONIO, TX
  • TOYOTA CENTER 03/23/2018 HOUSTON, TX
  • SMOOTHIE KING CENTER 03/25/2018 NEW ORLEANS, LA
  • AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER 03/26/2018 DALLAS, TX
  • TD GARDEN 04/02/2018 BOSTON, MA
  • BELL CENTRE 04/04/2018 MONTREAL, QC
  • PRUDENTIAL CENTER 04/07/2018 NEWARK, NJ
  • PRUDENTIAL CENTER 04/08/2018 NEWARK, NJ
  • AMWAY CENTER 04/18/2018 ORLANDO, FL
  • PHILIPS ARENA 04/20/2018 ATLANTA, GA
  • SPECTRUM CENTER 04/21/2018 CHARLOTTE, NC
  • PNC ARENA 04/24/2018 RALEIGH, NC
  • UNITED CENTER 04/26/2018 CHICAGO, IL
  • XCEL ENERGY CENTER 04/28/2018 ST. PAUL, MN
  • BMO HARRIS BRADLEY CENTER 04/29/2018 MILWAUKEE, WI
  • PPL CENTER 05/02/2018 ALLENTOWN, PA
  • WELLS FARGO CENTER 05/03/2018 PHILADELPHIA, PA
  • MOHEGAN SUN ARENA 05/05/2018 UNCASVILLE, CT
  • CANADIAN TIRE CENTRE 05/07/2018 OTTAWA, ON
  • MADISON SQUARE GARDEN 05/09/2018 NEW YORK, NY
  • MADISON SQUARE GARDEN 05/10/2018 NEW YORK, NY
  • AIR CANADA CENTRE 05/12/2018 TORONTO, ON
  • CAPITAL ONE ARENA 05/14/2018 WASHINGTON, DC

Tickets on sale next week

http://bonjovi.com/

Becky 01-11-2018 03:56 PM

I’m a bit frustrated because they are playing several shows within driving distance, but would all require a day or two off work, which I don’t have thanks to so many sick days already used this school year.

The best plan at the moment seems to be Houston on a Friday hit New Orleans that Sunday and get docked two days’ pay. I have yet to see the band in TX or LA somehow after all these years.

Ugh. I don’t want to get fired for excessive absences though. How would I afford more concerts?

Javier 01-12-2018 08:53 AM

Orlando here I come!!

BJFan99 01-12-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1232513)
Orlando here I come!!

F*** f*** f*** f***ity f***!

I'm going to Orlando with my family on February 22 and we'll leave back to Finland on March 9. I was hoping that they would kick off the tour earlier (at the start of March), so we maybe would've had the opportunity to see the guys live again, but no. The biggest act I've seen overseas so far was Foreigner in 2016, but I was really hoping to see Jovi again, having not seen them since Helsinki '11... shame.

Bleeding Purist 01-12-2018 10:49 AM

Might sit this round out. No shows near me and not sure I am up for traveling for it this time. I may regret this if the show morphs from last years set, but for now I'm assuming it will be quite similar to St Louis last year.

24Roses 01-12-2018 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1232518)
Might sit this round out. No shows near me and not sure I am up for traveling for it this time. I may regret this if the show morphs from last years set, but for now I'm assuming it will be quite similar to St Louis last year.

I'm not missing it this time! I'm planning on going to Minnesota. I do wonder though why they planned another date in multiple places from 2017. Does it have something to do with those locations being bigger markets/venues so more people can attend? Also, wonder why all the other dates pretty much go on sale next week but Minnesota not until mid Feb.

Becky 01-12-2018 07:15 PM

Now I’m daydreaming about hitting Denver and Salt Lake City the week of spring break, but it’s a 26 hour drive home. Colorado is on my bucket list, just for life in general.

Bleeding Purist 01-12-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1232557)
Now I’m daydreaming about hitting Denver and Salt Lake City the week of spring break, but it’s a 26 hour drive home. Colorado is on my bucket list, just for life in general.

I originally wanted to do Denver last year as a nostalgic trip back to the home of my early teenage years and where I saw my first concert on the Slippery When Wet tour. Luckily, I didn't go that route with the cancellation happening.

Denver with the Rockies behind it is beautiful.

Bleeding Purist 01-12-2018 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 24Roses (Post 1232552)
I'm not missing it this time! I'm planning on going to Minnesota. I do wonder though why they planned another date in multiple places from 2017. Does it have something to do with those locations being bigger markets/venues so more people can attend? Also, wonder why all the other dates pretty much go on sale next week but Minnesota not until mid Feb.

I haven't taken the time to compare the dates from last year, but at a glance it looked to me like they were hitting the markets they missed last year with more dates on the East Coast in the markets where they are biggest (NY/NJ.)

BJFan99 01-12-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1232518)
Might sit this round out. No shows near me and not sure I am up for traveling for it this time. I may regret this if the show morphs from last years set, but for now I'm assuming it will be quite similar to St Louis last year.

The set lists will probably be quite different from the first leg of the tour. I'm expecting BOR, IBTFY, ITA and Always to make frequent appearances - maybe also Dry County and These Days (if Jon finally gets that he doesn't have to play only the hits + new stuff even in the USA).

Captmorgs 01-13-2018 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1232568)
The set lists will probably be quite different from the first leg of the tour. I'm expecting BOR, IBTFY, ITA and Always to make frequent appearances - maybe also Dry County and These Days (if Jon finally gets that he doesn't have to play only the hits + new stuff even in the USA).



I would love it if you’re right about those songs. I don’t think Dry County and These Days will be played in North America unless it’s Montreal, Toronto, or Madison Square Garden.


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Kathleen 01-13-2018 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1232518)
Might sit this round out. No shows near me and not sure I am up for traveling for it this time. I may regret this if the show morphs from last years set, but for now I'm assuming it will be quite similar to St Louis last year.

You can always come and visit me :) We will be going to Newark and MSG at least - maybe Mohegan Sun too.

BJFan99 01-13-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1232582)
I would love it if you’re right about those songs. I don’t think Dry County and These Days will be played in North America unless it’s Montreal, Toronto, or Madison Square Garden.


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You may be right - or wrong, for that matter... :D But I'm sure that the sets won't be nearly as THINFS based as they were on last year's US leg. I'm expecting more of the big ballads to be played, probably even on a nightly basis (as in South America). That said, I Love This Town will probably make its comeback as well... :mad:

BJFan99 01-13-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1232583)
You can always come and visit me :) We will be going to Newark and MSG at least - maybe Mohegan Sun too.

Will your husband (Seb) go to the shows with you? If so, I'd love to hear his comments about them... :D

Supersonic 01-13-2018 12:38 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1232589)
Will your husband (Seb) go to the shows with you? If so, I'd love to hear his comments about them... :D

Wrong Eldridge, but then again, I never got married to the right one either. And while grieving, I subsequently stopped caring, as much as I did, for Bon Jovi as well. So no comments from me this time around.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

BJFan99 01-13-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1232592)
Aloha !



Wrong Eldridge, but then again, I never got married to the right one either. And while grieving, I subsequently stopped caring, as much as I did, for Bon Jovi as well. So no comments from me this time around.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I'm sorry, Seb - I didn't know you and Kathleen weren't married anymore. I certainly didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Please, forgive me.


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