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Thinny 03-17-2018 05:51 PM

Yes, let's move on on. I didn't mean to cause you any upset or offense.

Anyways back to your points...

Maybe Jon just sings Prayer bad becasue his voice is shot and it's a really hard song to sing!? Maybe it's just that simple...

Maybe Jon shouldn't be kissing other women because he's married, more importantly..!?

bjcrazycpa 03-17-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kenobi_on_a_prayer (Post 1236395)
That acoustic Born to Follow was pretty cool. So much better than the original.



So agree. I could tolerate it this way lol!!


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WhamATC 03-17-2018 06:09 PM

The thing about Prayer.
He might struggle with hitting the notes PHYSICALLY.

He struggles to pronounce the words due to overthinking or something else with the mind (Not at all saying he is crazy or something)

Prayer also has a thing, the talkbox.
Jon hears the talkbox each time he performs that song causing him to think about the past, Richie or something.
The struggle and him failing to pronounce words is MENTAL but might FEEL physical.
(The way anxiety causes chest tightness for some people)

He performed LOAP easily 2010 cause he knew Richie and everyone were there and didnt think that richie would leave.

To be honest here when i have gotten sad (If someone i knew died or something) or angry my voice suddenly got pretty weak and sometimes i talked and ended up exactly like jon choking up in Vegas Runaway Tour 2018. But once i stopped being angry, sad or whatever i was my voice went fully normal.

Jon in interviews talks normally cause he isnt thinking about richie or anything.

Now the PHYSICAL struggle might be hitting the correct notes like G4, etc.

Vocal cords: Note/Pitch. Darkness or lightness of note (woman hitting a note sounds different from a man hitting the same note.)

Mouth, tongue, teeth, lips: For pronunciation itself.

Thinny 03-17-2018 06:13 PM

I disagree. It sounds worse then 2010 because his voice had deteriorated considerabley since then. If he's got anything on his mind it's hitting the notes and trying not to sound like shit.

He co-wrote most of the songs with Richie, so if it was the case he'd had Richie on his mid everytime he sung a line that Richie wrote, or heard a solo that was Richie's. Honestly, I think Jon is way over the Richie thing!

Walleris 03-17-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1236398)
Maybe Jon just sings Prayer bad becasue his voice is shot and it's a really hard song to sing!? Maybe it's just that simple...

No, it's clearly a betrayal from his then-brother Richie that has caused him to lose his voice, you stupid hater!

james_d 03-17-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1236402)
No, it's clearly a betrayal from his then-brother Richie that has caused him to lose his voice, you stupid hater!

Do you think you could potentially put the rapid decline of Jon's voice in 2013 to Richie leaving? Jon was clearly trying to cover for him not being there which won't have helped his voice.

WhamATC 03-17-2018 06:37 PM

Actually used 2010 cause otherwise i would have to type "2013 before richie left".

Mental reasons of why he started sounding worse instantly after Richie left.

Now if he's unable to hit C5 thats probably physical.

The reason he sounds better 2018 than 2017
is cause those bad mental stuff are going away.

Physical improvements to his voice wont come.
Mental stuff that he is getting rid of is slowly making him sound like what he actually sounds like when singing
(For example SIBSN Sao Paulo 2017 acoustic intro before song starts as example. Or Jon singing during karaoke bar prank.).

WhamATC 03-17-2018 06:39 PM

James. I am sure he was sarcastic.

DavetheGodofKeys 03-17-2018 08:07 PM


Guys, I don't think if I'm being too optimistic, but I think Jon is slowly gaining his stage presence back. He moved during Prayer and even sounded decent. And I THINK, that he actually hit the " livin on a preeyaaar" part before the guitar solo properly for once! He even did the "woah-oh-oh" sing-along part with audience!

WhamATC 03-17-2018 09:10 PM

He very likely is.
He even moved on IML this time.
Almost all the timr during Sleep.
Didnt watch many songs at all, i was too early on YT for that concert.
He seems to be gaining back more stage presence than 2013 even when Richie was there (Didn't move on Prayer that time from what I've seen).

Even did the jungle noise like Denver.


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