I LOVE this song! -_- (Make a memory)

01. This House
02. Raise Your Hands
03. Bad Name
04. WLOL
05. Lost Highway
06. BTBMB
07. s'alright!
08. IML
09. Born to Follow
10. Runaway
11. We (Don't) Got it Going on
12. KTF
13. Amen
14. Bed of Roses
15. LYHOM
16. Living With the Ghost!
17. Sleep
18. Is There a Doctor in the House!?

19. Memory
20. Wanted

01. This House
02. Raise Your Hands
03. Bad Name
04. WLOL
05. Lost Highway
06. BTBMB
07. s'alright!
08. IML
09. Born to Follow
10. Runaway
11. We (Don't) Got it Going on
12. KTF
13. Amen
14. Bed of Roses
15. LYHOM
16. Living With the Ghost!
17. Sleep
18. Is There a Doctor in the House!?

19. Memory
20. Wanted
21. Prayer (w/ acoustic intro)

Not a bad show for 2018 standards imo. Living With the Ghost being performed for only the 2nd time ever at a regular show was definitely the biggest surprise of the night. I'm not expecting Jon to sound like he did in 2010, and as long as people are enjoying the shows, I can see the band continuing on.

Just got home from Charlotte! Great show tonight. Crowd felt electric compared to Atlanta last night (could’ve just been the difference between floor and lower level) but seemed like the crowd was very into it. . Couple of surprises which were great to see. Jon gave me a high five on his way out to the bstage as well! Great show! Can’t wait for Raleigh!

I gotta say, I like these setlists changes!

It's again one of those set lists you look at thinking with a couple of changes it could be so much better. Needs WWWU back and HAND also. I'd have Rollercoaster in there too. Then a big surprise in the encore... see below.

01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Raise Your Hands
03. You Give Love A Bad Name
04. When We Were Us
05. Lost Highway
06. Born To Be My Baby
07. In These Arms
08. It's My Life
09. We Weren't Born to Follow
10. Runaway
11. We Don't Run
12. Roller Coaster
13. Amen
14. Bed Of Roses
15. Lay Your Hands On Me
16. Have A Nice Day
17. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
18. Keep the Faith

19. Next 100 Years
20. I'll Be There For You
21. Wanted Dead or Alive
22. Livin' on a Prayer (w/ acoustic intro)

Sorry, dude - Next 100 Years is a completely unrealistic wish. I don't think Jon even remembers it exists anymore.

Just the 2 thinfs songs now then?

I seem to remember hearing JBJ saying New Years Day would be the opener.. I think it's on the DVD that came with the CD introducing all the songs.

Hmmmm.. it is easy to sing, gives Phil X a chance to let loose and makes a statement. But ok how about this..

01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Raise Your Hands
03. You Give Love A Bad Name
04. When We Were Us
05. Lost Highway
06. Born To Be My Baby
07. In These Arms
08. It's My Life
09. We Weren't Born to Follow
10. Runaway
11. We Don't Run
12. Roller Coaster
13. Amen
14. Bed Of Roses
15. Lay Your Hands On Me
16. Have A Nice Day
17. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
18. Keep the Faith

19. New Years Day
20. I'll Be There For You
21. Wanted Dead or Alive
22. Livin' on a Prayer (w/ acoustic intro)

That's actually realistic. Hear him, Jon!

Oh God, LWTG and Memory?! And I almost got a heart attack when sb said IBTFY was played as well, but then it turned out it was another wishful thinking ;p I guess it would be too much anyway :D awesome!!

HAND should be a staple. The crowd loves it and it works. I like playing different songs from THINFS, but wish they would keep GBTM. Ditch Amen for I Will Drive You Home, which should be easy for Jon to sing.

Haven't checked in here for a while. Shocked they don't play 'Have A Nice Day' anymore.

He played it the first night in Jersey and swapped it out for a different song the second night... I'm sure it will soon makes its return...Don't You Worry!!!

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Was there a FB live stream which contained the performance of Living With The Ghost?

As much as I hate Amen... Like top four worst songs besides Arm Of One, Joey, and Working Man; I must admit, I'm enjoying it live this tour for some odd reason... I think I kinda like the way it leads into Bed Of Roses....

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here you are <3

I've gotta admit, I like Joey.

HAND needed to be dropped. It's a high tempo song that exhausts Jon and sounds like shit. I also think bad medicine should go.

I'm so glad to see THINFS songs slowly being dropped. Only 2 songs from the album this show. As much as some of you may like the songs, they definitely kill the mood. The title track and extended solo might be the only exciting live new song they do.

When we were us was literally written to be played at the hall of fame. Now that it's done, no point playing that awful live song anymore.

It's nice seeing this setlist morph, especially since I'll be seeing them in a couple weeks.

Yeah, I'll actually agree with most of this...

The new songs are great for the YouTube watcher but when you are there and Jon is pumping up the audience and then goes into a new song that no one knows, it is somewhat of a downer...

The new songs should be limited and worked in strategically...

I like the This House intro with Knockout to follow... I think Rollercoaster should be the new permanent fixture... and then one more new one after that...

Thank you! I really like the song on the album and actually think that it's one of the very few songs of the last years where Jon delivers a passionate vocal within his limitations.
But damn, that performance was so slow and boring...

I agree about HAND, medicine I still think people expect unless RYH (which sounded decent yesterday) replaced it more permanently. The changes in set are nice to see, I would like to see Rollercoaster, Saturday Night, Always and IBTFY make appearances soon, along with the audibles. I'm certainly enjoying this leg a lot more than last year.

But, but, but this was a number 1 album in North America not once but TWICE!!! How come no-one knows the songs? Lol

Pretty fair review... In summary, everything was great but Jon's voice...

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/ent...209567454.html

Isn't he actually saying that, for him, Jon was fine but the mixing was terrible with his mic?

And they would have had a free copy of the album with their tickets.

If any band's tour is promoting a new album, I wouldn't complain about 5/6 songs from said album being in the set. If I'm interested enough in buying a ticket to see an artist, at minimum I'd listen to the current album and the greatest hits.

If the other 15/16 songs in the set were of the right quality, they could easily have plenty of new songs and not alienate the crowd. As well as really selling the songs in a way they haven't seemed to do since loves the only rule. If you stand behind the music, make the fans care.

That mixing thing is something I've noticed from videos on this 16/17 tour as well. From, let's say 2003 to at least 2011 if not 2013, Jon's voice was more than often mixed a bit too upfront live, being a bit too prominent in the mix (and at the height of his nasal singing that was sometimes annoying).
This tour they take it back far more at times, probably to disguise his vocal shortcomings. The problem is that they don't seem to find the proper balance for it.

Ouch

Thankfully we'll always have the album version

4:22, It's a little sad when Hugh is moving more than Jon!

Gotta agree about dropping the new songs. As much as I think they should stand behind their work and have at least 3-4 songs from the album they are promoting, I can't think of more than a couple of decent performances of any THINFS song, and in some cases they've sounded bad since the promo shows.

I don't agree about HAND though, it sounds as bad as any other song that requires energy and conviction in the delivery. The shows need to rock to compensate for Jon's lack of voice and stage presence. They need to showcase the band and all the backing vocals all the time, it's their only saving grace right now.

Guess who carried Jon for so long. They didn't need all those tricks, both technical and visual to "hide" the weaknesses. The band's more a democracy than ever now, tight and rehearsed. Let's be realistic: Jon's voice won't improve. Hope it just stays decent and the man finally enjoys himself on stage.

The show was just the opposite - Jon was all over the place. I can't remember when I've seen him move around more. Some memorable moments: he threw his jacket off and it got stuck on Tico's cymbals; he took John Shanks guitar (while he was playing it) and started playing it himself. He walked down the aisle railing after Bed of Roses, and walked through the audience during Bad Medicine (?). The last show we saw before yesterday was Pittsburgh on the first leg of this tour, and it wasn't great - Jon was sick and ended the show early. To me, he made up for it with this show. He had boundless energy and the crowd loved it. We're doing Raleigh on Tuesday, and I can't wait.

Haha that's awesome. Can you remember what song that was during?

This is why I love fan reviews from people who were actually in attendance... Most people judged this entire show based on Memory, Living With The Ghost, Raise Your Hands, and a few others...

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I noticed that in the livestream, JBJ playing Shanks guitar was in Sleep (Shanks started to play tambourine) and the jacket thing was in Bad Medicine...

in all honesty, I think Jon's vocal state is no longer about 'not hitting the high notes' anymore. Lemme put it this way: have you every tried to sing whilst you're in the middle of an awful cold, in between coughs ?

That's what he sounds like. Struggling to even articulate words. You could lower the songs' key as much as you want (and indeed they should) but that by itself wouldn't suffice. It's more than a range problem, I'm afraid.

It may or may not be reversible. I'm a musician, singer and sound engineer but I'm by no means a doctor or vocal coach so my guess is as good as everybody else's. He sang poorly between 2003-2006 then became much better from 2007-2011 again. 2013 wasn't brilliant but it was OK then we all know what happened from 2015 onwards.

If it's really shot then he'll have to re-learn how to do certain things. Not everyone is Bruce Springsteen. Jon wrote and recorded certain songs in a key that was clearly too much for his range. He COULD hit certain notes and sounded ace but it was clearly a stretch. Prayer was a stretch and he said so himself. If you listen to stuff like Hearts Breaking Even it's clearly he's singing in a register that's not his usual.

I think he sounded awesome during the Keep The Faith/These Days era but he couldn't hold it much longer. Crush didn't sound so extreme and I think the early 2000s was when his voice became to change and become very nasal.
He clearly abused his instrument and now it may be damaged beyond repairing. I'm sorry for him but that's just what it is. I wish he'd just do records and low-key gigs from on, to be honest.

Not to mention that up until 2010-2013 there wasn't a single review talking about his voice. Now they ALL mention it.

This is pretty much spot on.
It’s not a psychological issue. It’s a physical issue which leads to him loosing confidence in his voice. Once you get to know a little bit about singing, it’s easy to tell all the signs of damaged vocal chords. Jon had a great voice, not a great technique. He’s paying the price now.

Don’t get me wrong. You can still have a great time seeing them, as I did in RIR2017. But there are so many people here in such denial stating that he sounds good live that you end up reading things like:

“He needs to get his confidence back and his voice will improve. It’s a psychological issue.” This is the same as saying that in order to heal your broken arm you should go see a therapist. Sure, you can even get a little better, but you’re still limited by the physical damage.

“When you are there you don’t notice it.” Again, you can still have a great time seeing them live. But even in Dusseldorf 2011 most everyone could tell his voice was shot (and that was miles better than today’s standards). In RIR2017 there were some really cringeworhty moments when everyone looked at each other faces, but the energy was so sky high that it didn’t matter.

“When he moves 2 feet and 3 inches away from the mic stand, and if you pause at those 2 miliseconds , you can hear him belting that note”

But for me the winner is:

“He sounded great, but it was hard to hear him in the arena”

Since 2013 there are nights when he is a little bit better, but the average has been the same: pretty bad. Is scares me how people lower their standards as time goes on.