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TheOriginalJez 04-29-2018 01:55 PM

On another note: HAND dropped again? I wouldn't mind except there's a whole bunch of regular songs to drop first - Born to Follow, WGIGO, LH (I actually like Lost Highway, but it doesn't need to be in every night)

liljovi93 04-29-2018 03:26 PM

I thought IBTFY sounded very good. Obviously could be better but it certainly wasn't horrible.

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DryCounty 04-29-2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1240370)
Don't you really think Jon's voice has improved since last spring?

https://youtu.be/Lwo32m40a9w

His tone is still rough and fragile, but this year he sounds way more natural/"like himself" and lately seems to have regained some range that he mostly lacked last year as well.

https://youtu.be/jo4gINIQyV8

Well I might have been a little harsh. Yes, he has improved sine 2017. Those shows were so bad I don't even know if there's a grade that can go that low. Jon's better now, but I still don't think it's good enough to be worth praising. I don't mind him struggling through Always, These Days, Keep the Faith etc. because those songs are a bitch to sing but when he still struggles with songs that really aren't hard at all like Who Says, When We Were Us, Because We Can etc. I just don't think it's worth praising.

But to answer your question, yes, it has improved since the NA Leg last year. and that IBTFY was a very pleasant surprise.

Mary55330 04-29-2018 05:30 PM

Awesome show!

I’ll be there for you (missed a little, was Shocked they played it!)
https://youtu.be/zEk1JsGtVbw

Prayer
https://youtu.be/6fwQinEmWcU

Runaway
https://youtu.be/31IuRDJxNJw

TwinFan 04-29-2018 06:18 PM

That IBTFY really does show signs of good things. Maybe the man's still got it...

rolo_tomachi 04-29-2018 07:28 PM

full show

Thinny 04-29-2018 07:56 PM

I enjoyed the IBTFY performance, really good to see it back in the set. Love the NJ thresome of BM, IBTFY and BOB in a row in the setlist!!

BJFan99 04-29-2018 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1240378)

Awesome, thanks for posting! Bed Of Roses was pretty weak, sadly, but the rest of the show really makes up for it. One of the best shows of the THINFS tour so far, I'd say.

DavetheGodofKeys 04-29-2018 10:06 PM

Nice encore! And a very decent performance of I'll Be There For You !

symbeline 04-29-2018 11:53 PM

I hate to be the party popper but that IBTFY was bad, I had to stop after a couple of minutes. Half shouted, half drowned by all the other vocals. Even the band sounded like a cover band on this one. Could be the video quality, but there was something off and the guitars were not helping (why is Shanks playing lead on this one??).

I don't care if it was better than a horrible version. I don't even care about the minimal vocal improvement that lasts for 30% of the show. I'm still shocked to see how much Jon has lost it. He used to sing with ease, he might not have hit all the notes during the 2008-2011 period, but he didn't look as if he was struggling and there was such conviction in the delivery. You got sucked into the performance.

Watching Memory from the other day, man, it's SO SAD. I remember how Jon used to sell those slow songs that required a connection with the audience. The "acting" during Hallelujah was a little bit over the top, but I doubt many people sat and check the phones during that performance.

His voice being gone sucks. But his stage presence, the hunger that was still present in 2010-11, the rock attitude... that's gone and it's fvcking tragic. That's why the vocal improvement makes little difference to me, I know that even if the improvement reached decent levels, the attitude won't make a comeback and it's probably due to aging and having nothing else to prove, it could have happened anyway with Richie once they got into the RNRHOF. But that's what worked for me.


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