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Zakatar 04-29-2018 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1240335)

do you know if anything was played between LYHOM and Sleep?

Zakatar 04-29-2018 06:25 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Db6aJq-V4AAlg-_.jpg:large

GBTM apparently. And Memory will be opening the Encore Again...

Nice to see IBTFY as an audible though!

Zacm95 04-29-2018 06:26 AM

Exciting to see IBTFY as an audible

Zakatar 04-29-2018 06:31 AM

Not an audible anymore!

IBTFY opening the encore! first performance this year!

YOVANAfromPeru 04-29-2018 06:32 AM

There you go!
I'll be there for you -_-

superkid 04-29-2018 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakatar (Post 1240337)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Db6aJq-V4AAlg-_.jpg:large

GBTM apparently. And Memory will be opening the Encore Again...

Nice to see IBTFY as an audible though!

What is that last audible? I'd Die for You?

Zakatar 04-29-2018 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by superkid (Post 1240341)
What is that last audible? I'd Die for You?

I believe so.

YOVANAfromPeru 04-29-2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by superkid (Post 1240341)
What is that last audible? I'd Die for You?

"Die For You", it's been audible for a while...

Zacm95 04-29-2018 06:39 AM

My stream wasn’t the best quality. But that sounded surprisingly good compared to the attempts last year

superkid 04-29-2018 06:40 AM

Blood on Blood! Glad St. Paul is getting a decent show. :)

Zakatar 04-29-2018 06:40 AM

Blood on Blood!

YOVANAfromPeru 04-29-2018 06:40 AM

that was so sweet! -_-

Blood On Blood! now

Zakatar 04-29-2018 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1240348)
that was so sweet! -_-

Blood On Blood! now

I'd love to be able to watch it

YOVANAfromPeru 04-29-2018 06:41 AM

https://www.facebook.com/douglas.rad...UZoHTV49R7BNjY

Falco 04-29-2018 06:45 AM

Yovana, you're doing a great job with the setlist, I'll try to help tomorrow while at the Milwaukee show!

YOVANAfromPeru 04-29-2018 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1240351)
Yovana, you're doing a great job with the setlist, I'll try to help tomorrow while at the Milwaukee show!

Let's see if you get a JUNGLE NOISE >_< jajajaj

Zakatar 04-29-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1240352)
Let's see if you get a JUNGLE NOISE >_< jajajaj

Wanted now. I thought the gap after BOB might've meant another surprise, but I guess not.

Zacm95 04-29-2018 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakatar (Post 1240353)
Wanted now. I thought the gap after BOB might've meant another surprise, but I guess not.

I think they did the bows after blood on blood. Wanted and prayer are encore 2 I believe

Falco 04-29-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1240352)
Let's see if you get a JUNGLE NOISE >_< jajajaj

Haha yeah yeah... :p :)

BJFan99 04-29-2018 08:39 AM

Awesome encore! :D However, the main set still needs work. I mean, get rid of WLOL, WWBTF, WSYCGH and WGIGO and replace them with some honestly good album tracks/rarities (Older, Radio, Last Man and LTOR, for example), and the whole setlist will be immense.

WhamATC 04-29-2018 10:12 AM

If they are gonna play Dry County or even Hey God then it's gonna probably be in one of their Canada shows maybe Montreal.

BJFan99 04-29-2018 10:16 AM

Jon sounded damn good on IBTFY:

https://youtu.be/zdzyx75jPGs

Especially that long "or there when you were doooooowwwn..." sounds great!

He also did unexpectedly well on KTF:

https://youtu.be/irIA99Bkcq8

Face it, Jon's not 100% done. His voice is still shot for the most part which is a shame of course, but it's not unlistenable like it was in late 2013-early 2017, and now that he's again the frontman he used to be, I'm happy with this version of Bon Jovi overall.

BJFan99 04-29-2018 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamATC (Post 1240359)
If they are gonna play Dry County or even Hey God then it's gonna probably be in one of their Canada shows maybe Montreal.

What about Always? My bets are on MSG, Toronto and Montreal.

BJFan99 04-29-2018 10:33 AM

Can't wait to see Runaway, BOR, LYHOM, BOB and Prayer, seems like it was a great night for Jon.

hackster73 04-29-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1240360)
Jon sounded damn good on IBTFY:

https://youtu.be/zdzyx75jPGs

Especially that long "or there when you were doooooowwwn..." sounds great!

He also did unexpectedly well on KTF:

https://youtu.be/irIA99Bkcq8

Face it, Jon's not 100% done. His voice is still shot for the most part which is a shame of course, but it's not unlistenable like it was in late 2013-early 2017, and now that he's again the frontman he used to be, I'm happy with this version of Bon Jovi overall.

they both sound pretty good.

Walleris 04-29-2018 10:56 AM

I'll Be There For You was decent during the first 3 minutes and then at the third verse Jon completely fell apart and sounded terribly even on the chorus (which he sounded OK-ish the first 2 times). Which once again proves my '120% theory' :D

It's still good that they did this song and it should be done more often. It doesn't sound like a complete trainwreck and is a massive hit.

DryCounty 04-29-2018 01:12 PM

Very rarely I comment on Jon's voice having improved (because it hasn't) BUT that IBTFY was actually more than decent. I really enjoyed the performance very much. That song should be a staple, it's just a terrific live song and the entire audience knows it.

Eveline 04-29-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1240368)
Very rarely I comment on Jon's voice having improved (because it hasn't) BUT that IBTFY was actually more than decent. I really enjoyed the performance very much. That song should be a staple, it's just a terrific live song and the entire audience knows it.

It's one of Richie's absolute fave songs and he was the primary writer so, taken into account what happened a few years back, no wonder Jon was avoiding this one. Loved the performance, Jon sounded awesome and even added some ad-libs! :)

BJFan99 04-29-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1240368)
Very rarely I comment on Jon's voice having improved (because it hasn't) BUT that IBTFY was actually more than decent. I really enjoyed the performance very much. That song should be a staple, it's just a terrific live song and the entire audience knows it.

Don't you really think Jon's voice has improved since last spring?

https://youtu.be/Lwo32m40a9w

His tone is still rough and fragile, but this year he sounds way more natural/"like himself" and lately seems to have regained some range that he mostly lacked last year as well.

https://youtu.be/jo4gINIQyV8

TheOriginalJez 04-29-2018 01:50 PM

The first few bars of Shanks' KTF solo were like having Bobby back in the house haha not to jinx anything but things do seem to be getting better. I'm not sure if they've changed the key of IBTFY or whether Jon's just singing more of it an octave down than I remember before but whichever, it's working.

TheOriginalJez 04-29-2018 01:55 PM

On another note: HAND dropped again? I wouldn't mind except there's a whole bunch of regular songs to drop first - Born to Follow, WGIGO, LH (I actually like Lost Highway, but it doesn't need to be in every night)

liljovi93 04-29-2018 03:26 PM

I thought IBTFY sounded very good. Obviously could be better but it certainly wasn't horrible.

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DryCounty 04-29-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1240370)
Don't you really think Jon's voice has improved since last spring?

https://youtu.be/Lwo32m40a9w

His tone is still rough and fragile, but this year he sounds way more natural/"like himself" and lately seems to have regained some range that he mostly lacked last year as well.

https://youtu.be/jo4gINIQyV8

Well I might have been a little harsh. Yes, he has improved sine 2017. Those shows were so bad I don't even know if there's a grade that can go that low. Jon's better now, but I still don't think it's good enough to be worth praising. I don't mind him struggling through Always, These Days, Keep the Faith etc. because those songs are a bitch to sing but when he still struggles with songs that really aren't hard at all like Who Says, When We Were Us, Because We Can etc. I just don't think it's worth praising.

But to answer your question, yes, it has improved since the NA Leg last year. and that IBTFY was a very pleasant surprise.

Mary55330 04-29-2018 05:30 PM

Awesome show!

I’ll be there for you (missed a little, was Shocked they played it!)
https://youtu.be/zEk1JsGtVbw

Prayer
https://youtu.be/6fwQinEmWcU

Runaway
https://youtu.be/31IuRDJxNJw

TwinFan 04-29-2018 06:18 PM

That IBTFY really does show signs of good things. Maybe the man's still got it...

rolo_tomachi 04-29-2018 07:28 PM

full show

Thinny 04-29-2018 07:56 PM

I enjoyed the IBTFY performance, really good to see it back in the set. Love the NJ thresome of BM, IBTFY and BOB in a row in the setlist!!

BJFan99 04-29-2018 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1240378)

Awesome, thanks for posting! Bed Of Roses was pretty weak, sadly, but the rest of the show really makes up for it. One of the best shows of the THINFS tour so far, I'd say.

DavetheGodofKeys 04-29-2018 10:06 PM

Nice encore! And a very decent performance of I'll Be There For You !

symbeline 04-29-2018 11:53 PM

I hate to be the party popper but that IBTFY was bad, I had to stop after a couple of minutes. Half shouted, half drowned by all the other vocals. Even the band sounded like a cover band on this one. Could be the video quality, but there was something off and the guitars were not helping (why is Shanks playing lead on this one??).

I don't care if it was better than a horrible version. I don't even care about the minimal vocal improvement that lasts for 30% of the show. I'm still shocked to see how much Jon has lost it. He used to sing with ease, he might not have hit all the notes during the 2008-2011 period, but he didn't look as if he was struggling and there was such conviction in the delivery. You got sucked into the performance.

Watching Memory from the other day, man, it's SO SAD. I remember how Jon used to sell those slow songs that required a connection with the audience. The "acting" during Hallelujah was a little bit over the top, but I doubt many people sat and check the phones during that performance.

His voice being gone sucks. But his stage presence, the hunger that was still present in 2010-11, the rock attitude... that's gone and it's fvcking tragic. That's why the vocal improvement makes little difference to me, I know that even if the improvement reached decent levels, the attitude won't make a comeback and it's probably due to aging and having nothing else to prove, it could have happened anyway with Richie once they got into the RNRHOF. But that's what worked for me.


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