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bjcrazycpa 05-10-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1241132)
Do you like it?
I think its utter dirge.
Everyones different i guess.

I do! It's my favorite song off of THINFS. I know it's not a lyrical masterpiece but you can't deny it's catchy!

Walleris 05-10-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1241125)
Sshhh... don’t say that. You know Walleris, right? :D EDIT: Holy shit, you’re right! He can actually sing the verses of Prayer again!

He can't. For every note he hits there are three that he misses. You should know that better than me!

It was marginally better than some other performances I saw, but marginally is a key word. It was probably good enough to enjoy if you're there live, but definitely not good enough to enjoy it on YouTube.

I'd appreciate you thinking of me though :)

MellyMel 05-10-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1241133)
I do! It's my favorite song off of THINFS. I know it's not a lyrical masterpiece but you can't deny it's catchy!

I love rollercoaster too!

steel_horse75 05-10-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1241133)
I do! It's my favorite song off of THINFS. I know it's not a lyrical masterpiece but you can't deny it's catchy!

Genital warts are catchy as well but i dont like them either :D

bonjovi90 05-10-2018 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1241134)
I'd appreciate you thinking of me though :)

I do have a feeling that you're haunting him in his dreams with a giant 120% sign by now :D

TheseDaysEra 05-10-2018 03:28 PM

saturday night sounds like dog shit but yeah, he has his moments.
I'm totally convinced that it has nothing to do with range, it really sounds like he has some sort of chronic throat infection of some sort. anyways.

can't wait for this tour to end so they can sit down and decide that BJ needs Richie back otherwise they'll have to call it a day.

Rdkopper 05-10-2018 04:00 PM

I thought it was a great show and I also thought Jon sounded pretty good...

I was front row right behind Everett so kind of on the side but more towards the back... Seating is such a key thing... It's such a different experience each time. A few things I picked up on.

Jon doesn't use a teleprompter anymore... I don't think he has this entire tour which makes a huge difference in my opinion...

Tico has a guy who sits behind him the entire show... Kinda like an assistant... The saddest part about it is, he gives him oxygen after certain songs... After the KTF solo, Tico was so winded I didn't think he wasn't going to make it... The whole thing looked pretty bad. I think that's why Jon goes and does an acoustic Amen afterwards...Tico needed a good five minutes to collect himself...He also took some kind of pill...I know he smoked for many years and really hope he doesn't have COPD or Emphysema...

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Walleris 05-10-2018 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1241139)
Tico has a guy who sits behind him the entire show... Kinda like an assistant... The saddest part about it is, he gives him oxygen after certain songs... After the KTF solo, Tico was so winded I didn't think he wasn't going to make it... The whole thing looked pretty bad. I think that's why Jon goes and does an acoustic Amen afterwards...Tico needed a good five minutes to collect himself...He also took some kind of pill...I know he smoked for many years and really hope he doesn't have COPD or Emphysema...

Wow, I've never heard this before, that's very sad...

Reason #37 Jon should end this.

Zakatar 05-10-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1241139)
Tico has a guy who sits behind him the entire show... Kinda like an assistant... The saddest part about it is, he gives him oxygen after certain songs... After the KTF solo, Tico was so winded I didn't think he wasn't going to make it... The whole thing looked pretty bad. I think that's why Jon goes and does an acoustic Amen afterwards...Tico needed a good five minutes to collect himself...He also took some kind of pill...I know he smoked for many years and really hope he doesn't have COPD or Emphysema...

Wow...now we know why the shows are so short nowadays (and why they've seriously cut down on the number of them per year), and it's not Jon. When Tico goes, it really will just be Jon and friends instead of Bon Jovi the band (unless Richie comes back of course, which is highly unlikely). If he's in this bad shape this may well be his last tour with the band...the lesson we can learn from this band (Tico's breathing problem, Jon's voice) is never smoke!

bonjovi90 05-10-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zakatar (Post 1241141)
...the lesson we can learn from this band (Tico's breathing problem, Jon's voice) is never smoke!

I don't think it has too much to do with Tico's smoking. He's always had a style of playing with much more physical energy than other drummers and also kept hitting the drums probably harder than many others. If I'm not mistaken his back is giving him trouble for some time now and he uses a corset. It's just that his enthusiastic style is catching up with him and hard to maintain at his age.

TheOriginalJez 05-10-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1241139)
I thought it was a great show and I also thought Jon sounded pretty good...

I was front row right behind Everett so kind of on the side but more towards the back... Seating is such a key thing... It's such a different experience each time. A few things I picked up on.

Jon doesn't use a teleprompter anymore... I don't think he has this entire tour which makes a huge difference in my opinion...

Tico has a guy who sits behind him the entire show... Kinda like an assistant... The saddest part about it is, he gives him oxygen after certain songs... After the KTF solo, Tico was so winded I didn't think he wasn't going to make it... The whole thing looked pretty bad. I think that's why Jon goes and does an acoustic Amen afterwards...Tico needed a good five minutes to collect himself...He also took some kind of pill...I know he smoked for many years and really hope he doesn't have COPD or Emphysema...

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Before people go overboard Tico's been using oxygen onstage for a long time. I don't remember where I first saw about it in an interview but I'm pretty sure it was a pre-LH (so HAND or Bounce tour) look around his kit - although I don't think he had 'a guy' for it at that point, just a canister he could take a huff from.

That said, none of them are getting younger. I mean, except Lemma.

Edit: this is from the GH tour, but I'm sure I've heard it earlier https://youtu.be/LIx-KGLecCs?t=180

Zakatar 05-10-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241142)
I don't think it has too much to do with Tico's smoking. He's always had a style of playing with much more physical energy than other drummers and also kept hitting the drums probably harder than many others. If I'm not mistaken his back is giving him trouble for some time now and he uses a corset. It's just that his enthusiastic style is catching up with him and hard to maintain at his age.

Well, the back issue would explain the pill (probably a painkiller of some sort), but he probably wouldn't be so winded and need an oxygen tank after KTF if he didn't smoke (EDIT: even as far back as the GH tour or earlier).

Rdkopper 05-10-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241142)
I don't think it has too much to do with Tico's smoking. He's always had a style of playing with much more physical energy than other drummers and also kept hitting the drums probably harder than many others. If I'm not mistaken his back is giving him trouble for some time now and he uses a corset. It's just that his enthusiastic style is catching up with him and hard to maintain at his age.

I'm glad you wrote this because I don't want to start some rumor. I might have came across a little over dramatic too...

Like I said, not every song... And this could have been going on for years... It could be just a 'catch your breath' type thing... The crowd behind him sees all this and gives him a little cheer as he hams it up a little...

I was just taken back because it was something I've never seen...

TheOriginalJez 05-10-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hackster73 (Post 1241111)
setlist fm states no talk box on prayer..?

Seems like it conked out after the first chorus - Phil looks like he's expecting the stinkeye of death before he tried to compensate during the second verse using his cry baby pedal :-D

WhamATC 05-10-2018 07:24 PM

Tico has had an assistant behind his drums as long ago as These Days tour.
The assistant obviously does stuff with the drum, etc help Tico sometimes with gas.

angelsambo 05-11-2018 09:23 PM

BON JOVI I´LL SLEEP WHEN I´M DEAD LIVE MSG NEW YORK MAY 9th 2018


Captmorgs 05-12-2018 04:53 AM

Nice performance of Runaway. Jon played the guitar again, including the outro solo. I don’t think he has been doing this?
https://youtu.be/rG7dbS_j8Kk


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